I do agree that government is not up to standards in different areas. But they are ethical unlike other governments. They are smarter than other countries but not that smart also.
But government comes from the public so if government is corked up, so is the public.
The poor in singapore is too poor to complain in internet because they cannot afford internet access.
The middle income, and the below middle income, and those who are earning alot but they also spend alot are those who will likely to be in the internet and hurling scoldings towards the government.
I say these groups of people they earn their tough situation for themselves. They are more than enough resources for Singapore, from poor to rich, to handle problems in their life. They are too used to good things that good things become taken for granted and they chase higher and higher demands. Patience is no longer a virtue anymore.
Singaporeans do have a few capable people who is able to wake up the whole stupid Singaporeans, hence I am not worried about Singapore future at all. But frankly speaking, these few people have not really put their best effort yet, that is why Singapore today is still in corked up state, not comapred to other countries. Other countries are even more corked up than us with their violent stories and corrupting system.
As I said, Singapore will surely be able to get rid of its stupidity that is still occuring rampantly in bits and pieces here and there. THe public need to wake up its ignorances first and see that all the solutions are already laid bared in front of them. The problem is not so much with the government.
A good government will is a emergent property of a good public. A lousy government therefore also come from a corked up public.
To see if a government is good or not. One just have to walked into a local forum like the speaker corner and see the standards of netizens in their talking and debating skills. One also listen to what people are talking in the coffee shops and public spaces to know what kind of the government will emerge from these people.
Singapore is quite corked up now, but it has enough few talented people to spearhead the rest of us into realm of reality. If a model happy country can ever be achieved, Singapore will be one of the 1st 4 to become.
How can you compare us to the government when they are the elites and we are the lesser mortals aka third class citizens?
TS, are you one of those corked up ones that you mentioned in your own article?
The present govt is not so corked up hahahhaah, for one senior old politician to go round badmouthing and accusing his own people who feed him is nothing to you?????
knn the pap govt
TS has one track mind and die die must attack the general public.
His underlying meaning is die die must let govt wins over the general public.
A government anywhere in the world that cannot take public complains and criticisms is a sole loser.
That is what I can say.
Originally posted by Junyang700:A government anywhere in the world that cannot take public complains and criticisms is a sole loser.
That is what I can say.
They are losers from the day they make themselves govt of Singapore.
Originally posted by january:I do agree that government is not up to standards in different areas. But they are ethical unlike other governments. They are smarter than other countries but not that smart also.
But government comes from the public so if government is corked up, so is the public.
The poor in singapore is too poor to complain in internet because they cannot afford internet access.
The middle income, and the below middle income, and those who are earning alot but they also spend alot are those who will likely to be in the internet and hurling scoldings towards the government.
I say these groups of people they earn their tough situation for themselves. They are more than enough resources for Singapore, from poor to rich, to handle problems in their life. They are too used to good things that good things become taken for granted and they chase higher and higher demands. Patience is no longer a virtue anymore.
Singaporeans do have a few capable people who is able to wake up the whole stupid Singaporeans, hence I am not worried about Singapore future at all. But frankly speaking, these few people have not really put their best effort yet, that is why Singapore today is still in corked up state, not comapred to other countries. Other countries are even more corked up than us with their violent stories and corrupting system.
As I said, Singapore will surely be able to get rid of its stupidity that is still occuring rampantly in bits and pieces here and there. THe public need to wake up its ignorances first and see that all the solutions are already laid bared in front of them. The problem is not so much with the government.
A good government will is a emergent property of a good public. A lousy government therefore also come from a corked up public.
To see if a government is good or not. One just have to walked into a local forum like the speaker corner and see the standards of netizens in their talking and debating skills. One also listen to what people are talking in the coffee shops and public spaces to know what kind of the government will emerge from these people.
Singapore is quite corked up now, but it has enough few talented people to spearhead the rest of us into realm of reality. If a model happy country can ever be achieved, Singapore will be one of the 1st 4 to become.
You forgot to mention how did the public get corked up in the first place.
Originally posted by january:I do agree that government is not up to standards in different areas. But they are ethical unlike other governments. They are smarter than other countries but not that smart also.
But government comes from the public so if government is corked up, so is the public.
The poor in singapore is too poor to complain in internet because they cannot afford internet access.
The middle income, and the below middle income, and those who are earning alot but they also spend alot are those who will likely to be in the internet and hurling scoldings towards the government.
I say these groups of people they earn their tough situation for themselves. They are more than enough resources for Singapore, from poor to rich, to handle problems in their life. They are too used to good things that good things become taken for granted and they chase higher and higher demands. Patience is no longer a virtue anymore.
Singaporeans do have a few capable people who is able to wake up the whole stupid Singaporeans, hence I am not worried about Singapore future at all. But frankly speaking, these few people have not really put their best effort yet, that is why Singapore today is still in corked up state, not comapred to other countries. Other countries are even more corked up than us with their violent stories and corrupting system.
As I said, Singapore will surely be able to get rid of its stupidity that is still occuring rampantly in bits and pieces here and there. THe public need to wake up its ignorances first and see that all the solutions are already laid bared in front of them. The problem is not so much with the government.
A good government will is a emergent property of a good public. A lousy government therefore also come from a corked up public.
To see if a government is good or not. One just have to walked into a local forum like the speaker corner and see the standards of netizens in their talking and debating skills. One also listen to what people are talking in the coffee shops and public spaces to know what kind of the government will emerge from these people.
Singapore is quite corked up now, but it has enough few talented people to spearhead the rest of us into realm of reality. If a model happy country can ever be achieved, Singapore will be one of the 1st 4 to become.
Then in that case, these are the very qualities that you should learn to imbue.... in yourself.
To those who don't know what I'm talking about, I refer you to: Linkie
Instead of sitting down and making noise about the bad things about your life (i.e. being 'corked up')......
..... you might want to follow your own advice, make the best of things, and knuckle down to make your own life better.
All I'm saying is, before you start saying that other people are 'corked up', you should ask yourself whether you're in that group of people and whether you're following your own advice in this thread to take responsibility of your own life.
TS , r u refering to politics or neitizen?
Originally posted by seyKai:TS , r u refering to politics or neitizen?
Obviously, he is referring to netizens and people of Singapore. If you have read his other posts/threads before you know he is for the PAP and against the people.
Goverment is justlike a employers.
They employ employees to work for them (managers, VP, AVP, etc).
The employees employed so call scholars (officers, clerks, etc).
Definately pple (outside the circle) will take note of what they do.
Please dont compare govt to the pple.
Afterall, we are in vast different salary scale.
Originally posted by january:
But government comes from the public so if government is corked up, so is the public.
Singapore political power is in hands of a small clique within PAP CEC. Public has nothing to do with it.
Originally posted by tranquilice:How can you compare us to the government when they are the elites and we are the lesser mortals aka third class citizens?
if you want to define yourself as lesser mortal or third class, that is up to you, but take note that you can alway be first class or higher if you wanted to do it in singapore, only lame and lazy people choose to label themselve as lower class, but actually, there is no class for all, you can do it, you go up, you cannot, diam diam and eat your warm porridge
The world govts are alway at the mercy of their citizens, no matter how much they do or did, there sure be critics, jealous, emotional, hatre, or simply complaints as usual. The matter is lies on how much or how less. Singapore govt in comparing to other countries govts, is actually only getting a small fraction of dissatisfied peoples like the usual formers here, less than 20 of them, that is good, in other countries, you can see millions and millions going against the govt. This shown that our govt is still doing a good job, popular and well likened.
Sincerely, if you go to malaysia and ask a person there about their govt, they will criticising non stop, same goes to thailand, china, and so on.
Try ask someone on the street of SG about our GOV. You will easily find one that is not complaining but just KNNBCCB the GOV cos bla bla bla... and throw ur mother old shoe....
Originally posted by angel7030:
if you want to define yourself as lesser mortal or third class, that is up to you, but take note that you can alway be first class or higher if you wanted to do it in singapore, only lame and lazy people choose to label themselve as lower class, but actually, there is no class for all, you can do it, you go up, you cannot, diam diam and eat your warm porridge
shut your mouth if you do not know the background of people. You never use your arrogant, pimpy's brain to think that not everyone is born in a rich family like you who only care only your pub prostitute business. If you dunno anyone that well to make judgement then shut your gap. Leave your gap to your male customers.
Originally posted by angel7030:The world govts are alway at the mercy of their citizens, no matter how much they do or did, there sure be critics, jealous, emotional, hatre, or simply complaints as usual. The matter is lies on how much or how less. Singapore govt in comparing to other countries govts, is actually only getting a small fraction of dissatisfied peoples like the usual formers here, less than 20 of them, that is good, in other countries, you can see millions and millions going against the govt. This shown that our govt is still doing a good job, popular and well likened.
Sincerely, if you go to malaysia and ask a person there about their govt, they will criticising non stop, same goes to thailand, china, and so on.
Again in your pimpy arrogant brain you make sweeping statement. You are stupid to compare irrelevantly. Other govt in other countries don't pay themselves world class salary and claim first class govt like ours. If you want to compare, compare the same. If they make the people pay them world class salary, we expect world class quality, performance from these sai in white, understand or not pimpy
Originally posted by Aceone10:Try ask someone on the street of SG about our GOV. You will easily find one that is not complaining but just KNNBCCB the GOV cos bla bla bla... and throw ur mother old shoe....
The latest is they have offended the PRs in Singapore. Many PR foreigners are unhappy about the fact that the govt making noise about them not accepting to be citizens.
Originally posted by hasene:
Again in your pimpy arrogant brain you make sweeping statement. You are stupid to compare irrelevantly. Other govt in other countries don't pay themselves world class salary and claim first class govt like ours. If you want to compare, compare the same. If they make the people pay them world class salary, we expect world class quality, performance from these sai in white, understand or not pimpy
but other countries' govt got world class undertable salary mah, one time undertable payment only, can sweep all of what one Singapore minister can make in10 years. Understand or not, aunt
Originally posted by angel7030:
but other countries' govt got world class undertable salary mah, one time undertable payment only, can sweep all of what one Singapore minister can make in10 years. Understand or not, aunt
can u explain then the great disparity in what the (our country and US) leaders make in their annual salary?
Originally posted by iceFatboy:can u explain then the great disparity in what the (our country and US) leaders make in their annual salary?
US leaders can canvass great vast of sponsorship from their big corporation and the rich, the influence the power generated is completely different, there is two kinds of thing that a man or woman need inorder to be fully success, one is money, the other is power, being a politician can enjoy both of it, just like the US president, he holds big power and get respected all over the world, he got big US corporation sponsorship in his projects and achievements, during any US presidential election, the senator can canvass over multi millions of dollars in their coffer, now you know why Obama do not want to take those wall st guys head on, cos he still need their support and certainly, he knows his present position can be fulfil without them.
Our is different, Govt do not canvass for anything from corporations, they have to prudent in their way of governing, as some said, running singapore is like running a business, in way, i do not oppose to that, cos without sponsorship, you need a business and yet politician mind to keep this place in good shape and to improve on it, and to do that, you got to get good and smart people, and therefore you have to pay them well. And no doubt they got power, but certainly, cannot match what the US got. A MD can only show his power in the company, out of it, he is just a layman, but govt is different, anywhere he goes, he still hold power, that is what induce man to take up politics, to have money and power, once this is reached, hopefully they can govern well, and so far, Singapore govt is not bad.
What iceFatboy is asking the difference in salary. What nonsence long and out of point shooting are you talking about?? Are you referring to support to the party or individual? What sponsors comes and goes to the party coffer and not individual politician pocket. Do SG GOV need any of that?? They are the "BOSS" of all the "POWERFUL" company in SG do they still need to please anyone to ask for "DONATION"? The best part with the heriachy of SG GOV system, they dont even have to hide under the table to get what they want. Less talk about taking responsibilities what they lose.
Angel, you better keep to your ProsUB business and dont try to be smart. You dont know what you do not know and dont assume you had seen the whole world.
Originally posted by Aceone10:What iceFatboy is asking the difference in salary. What nonsence long and out of point shooting are you talking about?? Are you referring to support to the party or individual? What sponsors comes and goes to the party coffer and not individual politician pocket. Do SG GOV need any of that?? They are the "BOSS" of all the "POWERFUL" company in SG do they still need to please anyone to ask for "DONATION"? The best part with the heriachy of SG GOV system, they dont even have to hide under the table to get what they want. Less talk about taking responsibilities what they lose.
Angel, you better keep to your ProsUB business and dont try to be smart. You dont know what you do not know and dont assume you had seen the whole world.
Pimpy is an empty vessel, comes here everyday to make noise to get noticed. Damn pathetic. Pimpy hardly can get facts right with a messed up brain which only is functional for pimping and dirty stuff.
I got your point and yeah, i concluded the same as you did.
Originally posted by Aceone10:I got your point and yeah, i concluded the same as you did.
do you notice how hard pimpy is always trying to tell people pimpy is a gal. Actually, real gals don't talk like that "we gals . .. . .. . ." Real gals don't post by saying "my front twin peak ...."