very unsuccessful compared to ex classmates
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I pretty much have same route of succss with everyone until graduation. My career was a F9 though for the past 3 years after graduation. When i see facebook, I saw professional career in people I have known in the past and i was like some part time jobs which is similar to student jobs.
I usually dread the idea of gatherings cos really i feel i am just a blue collar temperory worker despite gotten a university degree.
I always try to look at the positive sides of thing in this issue but the inferior feeling does come to me sometimes also. Other people are like maybe more than 4k, maybe some 3k still, while i am like just 1k plus worker. I know that there are million of things to be grateful about even though i have this rough patch to deal with.
I really have not figured out this problem well, otherwise I would not been still down over this sometimes. I have not fully learn to leverage on my situation and my self esteem is also hurt. I should have learn from this instead of being negative and come out a much stronger self esteem than everyone else. I will do it. just do it and try to do it.
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Do you want success or just more self esteem?
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How can you use your classmates as a benchmark, they are only a small sample size for comparison. If you carry on using them to benchmark yourself, you will get nowhere.
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Originally posted by january:
I pretty much have same route of succss with everyone until graduation. My career was a F9 though for the past 3 years after graduation. When i see facebook, I saw professional career in people I have known in the past and i was like some part time jobs which is similar to student jobs.
I usually dread the idea of gatherings cos really i feel i am just a blue collar temperory worker despite gotten a university degree.
I always try to look at the positive sides of thing in this issue but the inferior feeling does come to me sometimes also. Other people are like maybe more than 4k, maybe some 3k still, while i am like just 1k plus worker. I know that there are million of things to be grateful about even though i have this rough patch to deal with.
I really have not figured out this problem well, otherwise I would not been still down over this sometimes. I have not fully learn to leverage on my situation and my self esteem is also hurt. I should have learn from this instead of being negative and come out a much stronger self esteem than everyone else. I will do it. just do it and try to do it.
Don't need to feel so sad, at least you're still the FIRST month in every year.
I heard that sex can make a guy feel better about himself and increase his successful feelings aka self-esteem.
Maybe you want to look for sex instead?
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TS,
The key word here is COMPARISON - that is your undoing.
Comparison is neurosis, it is utterly divisive and emotionally debilitating. Comparing oneself is disrespectful of oneself and consequently it is such tht one is bound to compare others. How lah, it will contaminate/permeate/percolate relationships, work etc etc. Discord is what one is sowing. What is there to harvest but misery!
As for self-esteem what you deem as ''hurt self-esteem'' is other-esteem. Now the other(s) or in the eyes of other(s) u seem like a failure or simply not good enough. It is not them but your compromise to be accepted to be included and now it is not happening. Self-esteem means that which one creates out of onself from within. Till then it is not self-esteem. understand and reconcile if u can.
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MAGIC LIKE U'VE NEVER SEEN IT
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Did you try searching for full time jobs? Care to elaborate why you landed in part time jobs?
Don't worry, as long as you tried your best, every step, no matter big or small, is a step to success.
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You shouldn't been feeling so down, I graduated last year in November and I only found a full time job just last month. After graduation, I was working casual for the entire time. I felt down and pressured half the time, try harder and look for the jobs you like. If your still unsuccessful, apply overseas for other jobs or you can improve your interview skills each time you go for it.
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?????degree holders getting such a long time getting a decent job in spore????how come?? think trying arder is useless in spore....remember each company is controlled by a job agency who in turn probably pays hr manager of that MNC company to employ foreign werkers from overseas.foreign workers pay thousands of dollars to agents.how much are u paying them? technically from way it goes.......one may never get a job in spore and the world is having economic problems. overseas oportunity: 1)usa:most jobs are currently out of economic service 2)australia:unless u intend to become paralyzed waist down or severely injured in industries.even mining workers from the USA went to australia to work and one sued his company because a huge rock fell on his head and he suffered neck and back injuries. 3)Europe:never looked good at all. 4)china: pay too low good as getting another type of national service 5)Canada:high unemployment rate dating back to 1980s. 6)New zealand:Unknown as most exports get sent to australia 7)India:too hot and havent seen any new buildings apart from those back in 1950s or 1960s. 8)Africa:high technlogy and materials in some parts. 9)Brazil:Same as above 10)Japan:good as higher paid national service if u can get in 11)south korea:same as above 12)hong kong:too crowded....but less crowded than spore.housing issues still in progress as in 1990s.anoither 10 years will be best 13)malaysia:pay is no good and not a good moral place to have folks werk in 14)thailand:political turmoil every 10 years but would still be survivable 15)indonesia:too hot of a climate
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Actually.. it really depends on how you define success, right?
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Healthy competition and comparison is always good.=)
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Originally posted by Terminator Hitman:
???degree holders getting such a long time getting a decent job in spore??how come??
think trying arder is useless in spore….remember each company is controlled by a job agency who in turn probably pays hr manager of that MNC company to employ foreign werkers from overseas.foreign workers pay thousands of dollars to agents.how much are u paying them?technically from way it goes…....one may never get a job in spore and the world is having economic problems.
overseas oportunity:
1)usa:most jobs are currently out of economic service2)australia:unless u intend to become paralyzed waist down or severely injured in industries.even mining workers from the USA went to australia to work and one sued his company because a huge rock fell on his head and he suffered neck and back injuries.
3)Europe:never looked good at all.
4)china: pay too low good as getting another type of national service
5)Canada:high unemployment rate dating back to 1980s.
6)New zealand:Unknown as most exports get sent to australia
7)India:too hot and havent seen any new buildings apart from those back in 1950s or 1960s.
Africa:high technlogy and materials in some parts.9)Brazil:Same as above
10)Japan:good as higher paid national service if u can get in
11)south korea:same as above
12)hong kong:too crowded….but less crowded than spore.housing issues still in progress as in 1990s.anoither 10 years will be best
13)malaysia:pay is no good and not a good moral place to have folks werk in
14)thailand:political turmoil every 10 years but would still be survivable
15)indonesia:too hot of a climate
Termie, your reply is cool!
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Hi TS,
instead of comparing and getting all demoralised, you might want to start
1) Defining your priorities in life
2) Set your life goals
3) Work towards achieving your goals
Life is much more fulfilling then :)
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Stop the typing here and go get a full time job. University student and u are earning peanuts ?? omfg ..
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Stop the typing here and go get a full time job. University student and u are earning peanuts ?? omfg ..
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Originally posted by january:
I pretty much have same route of succss with everyone until graduation. My career was a F9 though for the past 3 years after graduation. When i see facebook, I saw professional career in people I have known in the past and i was like some part time jobs which is similar to student jobs.
I usually dread the idea of gatherings cos really i feel i am just a blue collar temperory worker despite gotten a university degree.
I always try to look at the positive sides of thing in this issue but the inferior feeling does come to me sometimes also. Other people are like maybe more than 4k, maybe some 3k still, while i am like just 1k plus worker. I know that there are million of things to be grateful about even though i have this rough patch to deal with.
I really have not figured out this problem well, otherwise I would not been still down over this sometimes. I have not fully learn to leverage on my situation and my self esteem is also hurt. I should have learn from this instead of being negative and come out a much stronger self esteem than everyone else. I will do it. just do it and try to do it.
I think we need more info...like
1.what kind of degree....results ok?
2. job U are doing now.Same field as ur degree?
cannot always compare with people one....I am also on a temp(contract) worker with a degree....pay also lesser than most people I know...what to do?I also got commitments to fulfill and I also need to eat....work first and see if I can get anything else later lor...seriously....unless U cannot survive with ur current pay....its the last thing U should be worrying about.
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Originally posted by Xcert:
I think we need more info...like
1.what kind of degree....results ok?
2. job U are doing now.Same field as ur degree?
cannot always compare with people one....I am also on a temp(contract) worker with a degree....pay also lesser than most people I know...what to do?I also got commitments to fulfill and I also need to eat....work first and see if I can get anything else later lor...seriously....unless U cannot survive with ur current pay....its the last thing U should be worrying about.
Still need to plan further ahead. Actions should be taken into our own hands.
The key is not whether one can survive with current pay or whether TS wants to progress further in society. The key here is that TS feels demoralised when he compares with his peers.
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It depends on how TS defines success.
It also depends on how TS is willing to put in the required hard work and doing the right things to attain that success.Ultimately, success is not determined by your paper qualifications. I know too many people without a degree and extremely successful if TS wants to measure it by income levels.
If so, by TS definition, I’m also a failure because I have not attained a 5 digit monthly income at work
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Originally posted by january:
I pretty much have same route of succss with everyone until graduation. My career was a F9 though for the past 3 years after graduation. When i see facebook, I saw professional career in people I have known in the past and i was like some part time jobs which is similar to student jobs.
I usually dread the idea of gatherings cos really i feel i am just a blue collar temperory worker despite gotten a university degree.
I always try to look at the positive sides of thing in this issue but the inferior feeling does come to me sometimes also. Other people are like maybe more than 4k, maybe some 3k still, while i am like just 1k plus worker. I know that there are million of things to be grateful about even though i have this rough patch to deal with.
I really have not figured out this problem well, otherwise I would not been still down over this sometimes. I have not fully learn to leverage on my situation and my self esteem is also hurt. I should have learn from this instead of being negative and come out a much stronger self esteem than everyone else. I will do it. just do it and try to do it.
it is very strange. there is obvious something wrong somewhere.
You got a degree, yes but why do you still end up with 1 k plus job? What do you do wrong? Even you "blue" collar job sucks getting only abt 1 k plus only.
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If it's just about the income, can go sign on army.
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Well, its a long story. BUt there is stranger things on earth. Well, there is a long period where i did not go and find job actively. WEll, logically, i should be finding a higher pay job, but i did not. Well, not everything can be done logically right? I also wish for higher pay but the circumstances is that i never take action. SOmetimes i complain this and complain that. but i also make sure that i also blame myself too and just stop complaining and concentrate on solving problems.
Well, recently i am finding job again but have failed a couple of times again. SO have to continue applying.
I agree that I should learn to see things in perspective but its just not that easy . But then again, I have to take responsibility for my own precardiment. I do find that job market is not really efficient and corked up though, but no point focussing on them because i just need to work on my ownself mainly.
I will learn to appreciate my low paying job last time instead of thinking why others can get high pay more professional job. I will learn to see the bigger picture in life instead of dwelling too much on sadness and anger.
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There is nothing in this world that is not cocked up. It is how you position these cock up things to your advantage. Like adam khoo learning technologies said, problems will always be there, its how you work them out.
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Originally posted by january:
Well, its a long story. BUt there is stranger things on earth. Well, there is a long period where i did not go and find job actively. WEll, logically, i should be finding a higher pay job, but i did not. Well, not everything can be done logically right? I also wish for higher pay but the circumstances is that i never take action. SOmetimes i complain this and complain that. but i also make sure that i also blame myself too and just stop complaining and concentrate on solving problems.
Well, recently i am finding job again but have failed a couple of times again. SO have to continue applying.
I agree that I should learn to see things in perspective but its just not that easy . But then again, I have to take responsibility for my own precardiment. I do find that job market is not really efficient and corked up though, but no point focussing on them because i just need to work on my ownself mainly.
I will learn to appreciate my low paying job last time instead of thinking why others can get high pay more professional job. I will learn to see the bigger picture in life instead of dwelling too much on sadness and anger.
ok...not that strange lar...I also have a friend who is now not actively looking for job and she is slacking for 1 year+ already..degree should be 1st class honours or at least 2nd upper.
I also went for many many interviews before I landed my current job...have met interviewers who grill U with textbook questions and there are also interviewers who look beyond academic grades and see how U can fit into their organisation...the point is to send out ur resume for those positions U are interested in and interview for them if the opportunity arises.
Got rejected?...its ok....interview next one lor...
As for the 1K+ pay...well...U interview for a 1K+ job of course U get the 1K+ pay mah...
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Ts,
I am not berating or belittling your academic ... but frankly there is a need to polish your grammar and English.
It is atrocious lah!
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Originally posted by eagle:
Still need to plan further ahead. Actions should be taken into our own hands.
The key is not whether one can survive with current pay or whether TS wants to progress further in society. The key here is that TS feels demoralised when he compares with his peers.
I agree with the need to plan further ahead and actions should be taken into our own hands...
for me...a job must be able to meet my basic needs...climbing up the corporate ladder is another story....its like...if I earn 1.2K and my expenses are 1.4K(assume cannot reduce already)......its hard not to feel demoralised....but then again...TS should understand that to get a higher pay job...the requirements of that job will be higher...so although TS is getting a lower pay as compared to his peers...his job requirements are not as high.