Foreign students in Australia being exploited for profit
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Woei, farking Uncle, please also consider travelling expenses, lounging expenses, eating and outgoing expenses...Avis rent a car expenses..
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Originally posted by eagle:
Of course it is different.
But well, NUS offers opportunities to enrich yourself beyond studying in Singapore. There's internship like most unis, and there's Student Exchange Programmes to top universities in Europe, USA, China, Japan, etc, and Immersion Trips... These are programmes which I have participated in. And Student Exchange Programmes are subsidized for deserving students.
In addition, my friends have also partipated in programmes in which they are attached to work in new start-ups in Silicon Valley, where they get to work and learn with some of the leaders in the industry, while at the same time, handle studies at universities like Stanford.
Not only that, I managed to even take lessons in NUS on basic political analysis, basic accounting, basic Japanese language, and learn the German language (5 modules out of 6).
On top of that, there's still time for me to give tuition locally and that built up my experience in the industry for 4 extra years.
Indeed, "STUDYING IN NUS IS NOT THE SAME AS IN A COUNTRY LIKE OZ"
laughable, u need to stay at least 1 year overseas to fully understand the experience, 3 months internship programs and such is not going to expose u to the expereince.
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Originally posted by Worldlybusinessman:
laughable, u need to stay at least 1 year overseas to fully understand the experience, 3 months internship programs and such is not going to expose u to the expereince.
You really need to do your research
Immersion 1 month, SEP 6 months, and overseas attachment in start-ups is one year.
And certain programmes allow you to work for 6 months as industrial attachment, followed by 6 months of student exchange. E.g. Siemens-NUS programme.
Finally, with your logic, I think you are indeed laugable. You need to study at least 1 year in NUS to fully understand the experience.
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Originally posted by eagle:
You really need to do your research
Immersion 1 month, SEP 6 months, and overseas attachment in start-ups is one year.
And certain programmes allow you to work for 6 months as industrial attachment, followed by 6 months of student exchange. E.g. Siemens-NUS programme.
Finally, with your logic, I think you are indeed laugable. You need to study at least 1 year in NUS to fully understand the experience.
i stayed for 3 years overseas. isnt that better than your min 1 year. I am sorry for u because they dont want u to learn to much things.
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Originally posted by Worldlybusinessman:
i stayed for 3 years overseas. isnt that better than your min 1 year. I am sorry for u because they dont want u to learn to much things.
That's too bad for you, since you are telling us you want things the easy way out. It makes your degree even more worthless because you don't learn as much things because they don't want you to.
And it's not whether they want me to take more modules a not; I want to learn that many things. And I took more modules than required because I want to learn.
I have no idea why you would feel sorry for me for learning and knowing more things in NUS, because NUS wants it, and because I wanted it too.
Seems like you fail to understand the bolded and underlined sentence. Following your logic, how many years have you studied in NUS to give such a comparison? Are you very sure that NUS education is similar to what you had before uni in Singapore?
Duh. Self-pwnage.
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Ever heard of the term "graduate into unemployment"? Nowadays, employers don't care about fresh graduate, or worse still, which uni you've graduated from.
Employers care only about their buttomlines - can you add value to them? The people whom they hire are the experienced, proven workers who have the skills which the employers can exploit to the max.
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Originally posted by 4sg:
Ever heard of the term "graduate into unemployment"? Nowadays, employers don't care about fresh graduate, or worse still, which uni you've graduated from.
Employers care only about their buttomlines - can you add value to them? The people whom they hire are the experienced, proven workers who have the skills which the employers can exploit to the max.Dont be dumb, U cannot be a CEO of a company without a degree and above.
What u are referring to maybe , is low wage workers ( diploma holders, ITE ect)
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Originally posted by Worldlybusinessman:
Dont be dumb, U cannot be a CEO of a company without a degree and above.
What u are referring to maybe , is low wage workers ( diploma holders, ITE ect)
yes, one cannot be a CEO of a compnay without a degree - in Singapore. But you go look at China. Do they have degree first before they become CEO?
An enterpreneur is a leader and a degree holder is a manager- they are may not nec be the same thing - get it?
What I referring is the low wage worker? you are (out - correction) of touch with the local context, my friend! -
Originally posted by Worldlybusinessman:
Dont be dumb, U cannot be a CEO of a company without a degree and above.
What u are referring to maybe , is low wage workers ( diploma holders, ITE ect)
i introduce you to bill gates, a guy without a degree... so 1, there are CEO without degree.
2, how many CEO do you need?
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Originally posted by Worldlybusinessman:
Dont be dumb, U cannot be a CEO of a company without a degree and above.
What u are referring to maybe , is low wage workers ( diploma holders, ITE ect)
U cannot be a CEO of a company without a degree and above.
This is perhaps the dumbest sentence.
Any ah beng ah seng with just O levels cert can just register a company and call themselves CEO
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Originally posted by skythewood:
i introduce you to bill gates, a guy without a degree... so 1, there are CEO without degree.
2, how many CEO do you need?
I introduce a even more recent one.
Mark Zuckerberg
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Originally posted by eagle:
This is perhaps the dumbest sentence.
Any ah beng ah seng with just O levels cert can just register a company and call themselves CEO
Roger that
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1) You have a choice not to buy at Queenstown
2) You have a choice not to buy a 5-rm flat
3) You have a choice not to buy new flats -
Originally posted by Worldlybusinessman:
1) You have a choice not to buy at Queenstown
2) You have a choice not to buy a 5-rm flat
3) You have a choice not to buy new flatswrong thread
go back to your http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/354679 instead making yourself look like a fool here
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Originally posted by eagle:
This is perhaps the dumbest sentence.
Any ah beng ah seng with just O levels cert can just register a company and call themselves CEO
U mean ah beng can be CEO of citigroup, CEO of DBS, samsung, Sony, ??!
Wow, i know CEO of plumber company is O level cert. I know CEO of karang guni company also.
U can be a school dropout and be a founder like Bill gates. Sure no problem, unless u the first one to invent mouse interface or OS. Can u invent something not found in the world?
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U try applying for CEO position at a listed company with O level cert and get back to me with their response ( if any).
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Originally posted by Worldlybusinessman:
U mean ah beng can be CEO of citigroup, CEO of DBS, samsung, Sony, ??!
Wow, i know CEO of plumber company is O level cert. I know CEO of karang guni company also.
U can be a school dropout and be a founder like Bill gates. Sure no problem, unless u the first one to invent mouse interface or OS. Can u invent something not found in the world?
Now you are acting like a kid, trying to deny what you said. This is what you said:
U cannot be a CEO of a company without a degree and above.
Did you say any company? Duh again.
And Mark Zuckerberg, my example, did not invent any interface. In fact, his idea of creating the networking program Facebook was done before by Friendster before.
And Bill Gates did not invent the first OS. He bought over MS-DOS.
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Originally posted by Worldlybusinessman:
U try applying for CEO position at a listed company with O level cert and get back to me with their response ( if any).
Remember, this is what you said, and what you are trying to defend now:
U cannot be a CEO of a company without a degree and above.
Don't any how add words.
And what happened to your big talks about Oz unis, and being proud that you learned less because they don't want you to? Fizzled out?
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wow..........I am so impressed ...Then why arent u a CEO now?
even PAP ask for degree if they want to hire u for their MP
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Originally posted by Worldlybusinessman:
wow..........I am so impressed ...Then why arent u a CEO now?
even PAP ask for degree if they want to hire u for their MP
I can call myself CEO of my own part time tuition business, which already earns me as much as my full time job. Duh.
How leh? Why no talk about your Oz uni liao?
If you are so particular about degrees, you should know that a degree from an Oz uni which do not want you to learn much things is definitely worthless as compared to a degree from NUS which wants you to learn more things, especially in Singapore.
If you really think degrees are important, you would have considered even more factors.
Really contraditory.
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peace everybody
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Originally posted by bryanw:
peace everybody
Ya peace
When TS has insulted both his Oz Uni and NUS in this thread. Like wow... How much dumber can someone get... to make his alma mater look worthless by saying his uni doesn't want their students to learn much things.
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First you post in Chit Chat say education not important , streetsmart more useful for earning money.
Now you say need degree then can be CEO. It seems the only thing that "international" education seemed to have given you is a wishy washy mentality.
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