English act in SG
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this is a perennial issue here. only chinese acts fare better.
what can be done to improve the state of sg english music scene here?
band's issue? lack quality? or sgpreans' mentality?
we need to raise the profile of sg english music. -
No need la. I will still listen to western music.
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wait 30years when the 3rd generation kid fully replaced the 2nd or 1st generation lor..
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are bands from uk/usa better? for every good, there's bad, same everywhere....Originally posted by mhcampboy:No need la. I will still listen to western music.
i think there are bands now which are close or on par with any decent act.
is it perception issue or just pure biasness on the part of sgprean? -
biaseOriginally posted by weiqimun:are bands from uk/usa better? for every good, there's bad, same everywhere....
i think there are bands now which are close or on par with any decent act.
is it perception issue or just pure biasness on the part of sgprean? -
Nonsense. I have no chinese songs in my entire song library.
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singapore chinese singers can collaborate with taiwan, hk and china. especially taiwan.
english singers.. with who?
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i feel some of our bands here have the quality, but just dun have the platform for them......
it's easier for chinese acts to break into taiwan and china market and then from there break back into the regional market
for english acts it's impossible............ people still prefer us/uk english acts -
how many of those are local singers leh?Originally posted by SexyChin:Nonsense. I have no chinese songs in my entire song library. -
Er, my music consists of:
Pink Floyd, Queen, Tchaikovsky, Beethoven, Mozart, Dvorak, Schubert... -
example?Originally posted by The man who was death:i feel some of our bands here have the quality, but just dun have the platform for them......
acts
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hmm...parking lot pimps, electrico, lunarin, serenaide, corrinne may....Originally posted by TrixCereals:example? -
it is also a chicken n egg situation....if local english acts release rubbish music, i.e. poor mixing, mediocre sound engineering, etc., who could be bothered? but if there is no support from the vested group in general, i.e. investors, music labels, etc., how can they grow.....?
My other theory is tt a lot of local english music acts dun take their craft seriously; it is essentially a platform for them to attain their 15mins of fame, get some chicks and then it's back to their day job.
Also, they want to `pau ka liao'. instead of engaging the professionals to work on their songs, they are protective and wanted to attempt everything themselves. This is self-limiting. And the `dun want to sell-out' mentality is over-rated here in sg.
Of all the existing English acts here, who do you think will make it big (regionally?) electrico was selected for a music fest in the usa this year. however, catchy tunes as they are, i dun quite like their music...... -
i listen to japanese songs more often
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they are mostly singing in pubs and bars......
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I think there's a lack of the culture... a lot of the heavily westernized demographic of Singapore are westernized not because they really represent a unique Singaporean take on our western influences but because they have been dazzled by anything froming from the west.
But if you are talking about a uniquely english Singaporean culture, there's still a lot of taking anything from the west instead of truly knowing ourselves to deal with. If we don't know ourselves, we certainly won't identify with any of the music in that language from our local acts.
As such, it's difficult for local english acts to break into this, given that by any extension they are their logical audience... and the audience does not want to listen yet.
But I think some of them are seriously good, Corrinne May is very talented... though she had to move to LA to survive as an artiste. -
Yeah, english acts have a hard time surviving in Singapore. There are kinda a few reasons to this though, a lack of market and with people already given so much choice of other already established US/UK acts, it's hard for people to try something new.
Any artiste that just releases a CD or tour in SG itself isn't going to make much money, face facts, the demographics over here is small and among our population, maybe around 20% do actually buy cd's as opposed to downloading.
Countries like the UK and US are so much bigger geographically and can sustain a market of music listeners. But even now, record stores are closing down all around the states as people are no longer interested in browsing through a record store for their music, it's downloading high heaven now...
SG does produce some good acts like Electrico for example, but how many cd's do they actually sell? Like perhaps, 20 000 copies? In the states, a album can hit millions of copies already, thats BIG money. An artiste can establish itself here, but ultimately, they have to go overseas if they do want to make it big.
SG by itself is not a music hub...well, that's another reason. Everyone all over the world is looking to the UK and US for their fix on music, who is fixing their eyes here even? If The Beatles were to produce the same definitive quality of music but in a twist of fate were based in SG instead, we would be going, Beatles...who?
All of us can do a part and support local gigs and buy local cd's though, that's the least we can do, to partly help the industry over here...
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That's right.Originally posted by shadez:Yeah, english acts have a hard time surviving in Singapore. There are kinda a few reasons to this though, a lack of market and with people already given so much choice of other already established US/UK acts, it's hard for people to try something new.
Any artiste that just releases a CD or tour in SG itself isn't going to make much money, face facts, the demographics over here is small and among our population, maybe around 20% do actually buy cd's as opposed to downloading.
Countries like the UK and US are so much bigger geographically and can sustain a market of music listeners. But even now, record stores are closing down all around the states as people are no longer interested in browsing through a record store for their music, it's downloading high heaven now...
SG does produce some good acts like Electrico for example, but how many cd's do they actually sell? Like perhaps, 20 000 copies? In the states, a album can hit millions of copies already, thats BIG money. An artiste can establish itself here, but ultimately, they have to go overseas if they do want to make it big.
SG by itself is not a music hub...well, that's another reason. Everyone all over the world is looking to the UK and US for their fix on music, who is fixing their eyes here even? If The Beatles were to produce the same definitive quality of music but in a twist of fate were based in SG instead, we would be going, Beatles...who?
All of us can do a part and support local gigs and buy local cd's though, that's the least we can do, to partly help the industry over here...
I used to listen to Boredphucks, Stoned Revivals. You can drop by Timbre as well, to enjoy some local fare.
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i'm wondering if any of our local act can make it big in myspace and then....maybe....who knows.........
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Well, MySpace is like the new playground for unknown underground bands nowadays. The place is literally teething with bands and musicians. I think if you were to count, it would be in the thousands!Originally posted by The man who was death:i'm wondering if any of our local act can make it big in myspace and then....maybe....who knows.........
If a big marketing company like Sony BMG or Warner Music picks up a local bands act on MySpace, it would definitely go BIG...but that's taking that the CD be marketed mainly in the States. If it were to just be local, not much of a living there...
Now, as long as you appear on MTV with your music videos showing, you get your stuff out to a lot of people. Kids are watching MTV like it's their bible. Their music tastes are shaped out with what is mainstream and a definition of cool...even a crappy music can get you huge, just with the correct marketing. So basically, good music don't get you anywhere, anymore...the marketing company does.
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I don't watch MTV one leh, how?Originally posted by shadez:Well, MySpace is like the new playground for unknown underground bands nowadays. The place is literally teething with bands and musicians. I think if you were to count, it would be in the thousands!
If a big marketing company like Sony BMG or Warner Music picks up a local bands act on MySpace, it would definitely go BIG...but that's taking that the CD be marketed mainly in the States. If it were to just be local, not much of a living there...
Now, as long as you appear on MTV with your music videos showing, you get your stuff out to a lot of people. Kids are watching MTV like it's their bible. Their music tastes are shaped out with what is mainstream and a definition of cool...even a crappy music can get you huge, just with the correct marketing. So basically, good music don't get you anywhere, anymore...the marketing company does. -
Well, you don't. But a lot of people do...Originally posted by seow:I don't watch MTV one leh, how? -
Originally posted by shadez:Well, you don't. But a lot of people do...
I shield myself from rubbish.
But i think there should be some occasional good ones that come along.. -
And more.. We got Taufik Batisah, Olinda Cho and Hady Mirza..Originally posted by The man who was death:hmm...parking lot pimps, electrico, lunarin, serenaide, corrinne may....
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