Will u Vote for PAP or Opp?
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Originally posted by walesa:
I am not sure which I find more hilarious and mind-boggling - your ill-conceived logic or your brand of delusional grandeur.
If you're making a supposedly rational decision on the basis of "See which 1 appeal and see who understand what we suffer and support lor", are you not effectively a paradox of contradiction when you then suggest "Will you vote for Opposition if the guy was the guy who broke your leg, laugh at the broken legs and peed over it just being they are opposition?"
Are you even rational enough to assess the merits of the respective policies in that regard? So you're suggesting it makes perfect and rational sense to oppose the fella who broke your leg purely because of a personal vendetta when you had, simultaneously, suggested assessing the candidates on the merits of what they represent?
No wonder the fascist regime has survived for half a century with drones like you around...
I doubt you have it in you to understand the co-existence of two separate factors to decide whether the candidate is suitable for the position.
Instead of trying to be rationale, you nitpick on two separate responses and consolidate into a single paradox where A means B is wrong and B means A is wrong.
Personal vendetta aside, I believe the characteristic of the person, if any voter happen to know the person personally matters, should matter most in their choice. If the person can inflict suffering on purpose and still laugh over it, the person is likely to abuse his authority for the wrong reasons.
It amuses me that you do not have the capacity to easily see through these two separate responses and make a judgement. Instead, you are fixated at A means A and B means B and these two are mutually exclusive.
It does reflect how thickheaded you are.
Instead of criticising the highhandedness of PAP/opposition, shortsightness of PAP/opposition, or provide sufficient reasons that the manifestos from the PAP/opposition are for the good of the nation, you are just nitpicking and trying to troll in the forums.
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Tajong pagar has over 139,000+ residents unable to vote due to walkover...last night pass by jalan bukit merah, the place dont have any banners, nothing at all..so quiet, business as usual.
Actually mm lee and his team should walk around the estate and talk and shake hand with the residents, to show them that they still care for their resident even though it is a walkover.
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Just look at our neighbours...who minister maybe only 30% of ours minister. BUT thier wealth is definitelly >300% > then our ministers. And , they never perform even 10% of our minister performance.
So we rather have a high pay ministers that delivered then a low pay ministers who perform little BUT yet njoy greater wealth (somehow)...
Important , Spore is a safe and great place to stay compare to all our neighbours....so why compare our neighours pay then?Spore dun have water....yet we manage to find a solution. Msia supply us water , yet they need us to add value to raw water to sell back to them as drinakble at subsidised price....Johorian owe Sporean for thier water. Remind Msian not to forget our kindness......
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No doubt about spore is a safe place to live, to work, to have children go to school safe and sound. No riots, no protests.....agreed.
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Originally posted by likeyou:
Tajong pagar has over 139,000+ residents unable to vote due to walkover...last night pass by jalan bukit merah, the place dont have any banners, nothing at all..so quiet, business as usual.
Actually mm lee and his team should walk around the estate and talk and shake hand with the residents, to show them that they still care for their resident even though it is a walkover.
A shame actually. Have you watched Uncle Yap's video?
It is a shame. Instead of letting the people have their say, they shielded the old man from standing toe to toe with the Opposition.
I believe this will not go down kindly for the people. His victory will only spur the people to think carefully before voting for the nation.
Have he lost the will to contest and stand toe to toe to any opposition?
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Pity there are no CCTVs when you most need them.
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Originally posted by Nelstar:
A shame actually. Have you watched Uncle Yap's video?
It is a shame. Instead of letting the people have their say, they shielded the old man from standing toe to toe with the Opposition.
I believe this will not go down kindly for the people. His victory will only spur the people to think carefully before voting for the nation.
Have he lost the will to contest and stand toe to toe to any opposition?
Why work so hard if you are paid millions and don't need to be accountable to anybody?
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I will vote for which ever party that serve my and my country's needs.
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the theme of this election 21 i gather is a trial of guts
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In their 1st rally, the Worker's Party mentioned that the PAP after 52 years of rule have become arrogant and complacent and implement policies suddenly without even consulting the people. The people only hear of the new policy when they wake up in d morning and read the Straits Times.
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There is no way on this earth that I will vote for the PAP.
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Originally posted by likeyou:
No doubt about spore is a safe place to live, to work, to have children go to school safe and sound. No riots, no protests.....agreed.
yes spore is a safe country compared to other countries, because it is a small country with stringent laws, hence no riots, no protests.
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Originally posted by Vote PAP OUT to Save SG:
There is no way on this earth that I will vote for the PAP.
I can guess that from your nick
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
yes spore is a safe country compared to other countries, because it is a small country with stringent laws, hence no riots, no protests.
People have no freedom in this country.
Just work as the slaves of the PAP.
Increase HDB prices so that Singaporeans will spend the rest of their lives as slaves of the PAP system.
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Originally posted by Nelstar:
I doubt you have it in you to understand the co-existence of two separate factors to decide whether the candidate is suitable for the position.
Instead of trying to be rationale, you nitpick on two separate responses and consolidate into a single paradox where A means B is wrong and B means A is wrong.
Are you having a laugh? You're trying to make a case for "two separate factors" which are not mutually exclusive, but necessarily contradictory in what is a moot point at best? Your points are nothing short of hilarious at best. -
Originally posted by Nelstar:
Personal vendetta aside, I believe the characteristic of the person, if any voter happen to know the person personally matters, should matter most in their choice. If the person can inflict suffering on purpose and still laugh over it, the person is likely to abuse his authority for the wrong reasons.
It amuses me that you do not have the capacity to easily see through these two separate responses and make a judgement. Instead, you are fixated at A means A and B means B and these two are mutually exclusive.
You're quite deluded, aren't you? The characteristic of the person? Are you looking for a best friend or a soul mate?
Right, so I guess it's perfectly reasonable for you to vote for someone who doesn't represent your interest better at the socio-economic level in the legislature, but connects better with you in an affable manner socially. Are you therefore nothing more than a brainwashed drone espousing seemingly irreconcilable, yet contradicting schools of thought?
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Originally posted by Nelstar:
It does reflect how thickheaded you are.
Instead of criticising the highhandedness of PAP/opposition, shortsightness of PAP/opposition, or provide sufficient reasons that the manifestos from the PAP/opposition are for the good of the nation, you are just nitpicking and trying to troll in the forums.
It beats being the muddle-headed, confused soul you irrefutably are. You're confused enough as you stand trying to reconcile seemingly contradictory logic, nevermind your political stand.
If "high-handedness of the PAP/opposition" was what concerned you, you'd be better off voting in a popularity contest where the prize in question would be some blossom friendship with confused souls like yourself, rather than someone whose sole function is to represent your interests in parliament.
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remember what PM Lee said when he commented on the 66% popular vote for the PAP in 2006 elections?
he said he dunno what the popular vote is going to be, seems like he is resigned to the fate that PAP popular vote may be less than 66% this time round.
I surmised PAP will get 55-58% popular vote this time round, a minus of -8% -11% from the 2006 elections results.
if it happened, PAP will surely take notice of the issue like foreigners as singaporeans are really unhappy about this issue. if the foreigner policy still continue until the next election, then sporeans have a chance to really cast their protest votes and PAP may get lower than the 50% popular vote, losing a few GRCS and single seats.
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No. This elections, PAP will suffer blow.
I have a gut feeling.
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Originally posted by Vote PAP OUT to Save SG:
No. This elections, PAP will suffer blow.
I have a gut feeling.
losing 4-5 single seats? say 7 single seats they lose, lose another 3-4 GRCS?
so total how many seats from 84 seats available in parliament?
84 - 27 = 57
PAP still majority in parliament.
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hard to predict, but PAP will suffer blow.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
yes spore is a safe country compared to other countries, because it is a small country with stringent laws, hence no riots, no protests.
With due respect, I find this argument a complete and utter load of crap.Democratic People's Republic of Korea (yes, North Korea to you and me) too offers no riots, no protests and has stringent laws to safeguard the regime's interests (as a matter of fact, it's even a safer place to live in).
With its closed society, it is also probably the only country on the planet which is safe and immuned from the social ills and threats we see in today's globalized world (no organised crime, no threats of terrorism). With insufficient electricity to light up the capital after dark, it's even more environmentally friendly than many other countries on the planet!
Would that therefore render it a more humane, pleasant environment to live in?
Perhaps, more pertinently, are the Nordic countries (Finland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden) necessarily more rowdy or inefficient in running a country where protests, independent trade unions and ever-changing coalition governments are (as a matter of fact, have been since time immemorial) the order of the day?
Incidentally, these are countries with a higher ranking for human development, press freedom, standards of living (yes, their GDP figures translate to benefit the vast majority of its resident population and is not artificially inflated through an ultra-liberal immigration policy), corruption and a functioning democracy to boot.
Last I check, the combined earnings of those four heads of state do not even constitute 30% of the fascist head honcho's paycheck.
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Enough is enough.
Before nomination day everything for me was decided.I will vote for opposition .Most of us deep down know that the PAP will return to power in parliament but what matters to me is we need more credible opposition members to give the PAP a run for their MILLIONS.$$$... -
Originally posted by F.raon.I.R:
Enough is enough.
Before nomination day everything for me was decided.I will vote for opposition .Most of us deep down know that the PAP will return to power in parliament but what matters to me is we need more credible opposition members to give the PAP a run for their MILLIONS.$$$...
yay! finally I see someone online liao!
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Originally posted by Rickor:
if i can vote, i will still vote for PAP. the reason being its not easy making nation-wide decisions. you will definitely offend some groups of people. ultimately you need to weigh carefully the benefits against the problems. And so far, i think they have made good decisions which benefit the majority as awhole. People might not see it now, however i think the results would show in the long term.
Even though the opposition parties' ideas are fresh and new, i don think they will be able to implement them as it would require drastic changes to the lifes of the people. It may do good for each individual, but think in the shoes of the government, it can turn out detrimental for the country as a whole in terms of economy, security, housing etc.
I think that there is something called consultancy ....and a new government would be very cautious with the voters who voted them in because they would want to stay in power. Even when PAP was new, they were assisted by international foreign talents - not the second class foreign talents who came to Singapore because they cannot make it on their home ground or on the international stage.
I saw no improvement - I just see alot of 'little' Singapores popping out overseas. What improvement? Are the homeless on the streets an improvement? Giving foreigners your jobs an improvement?
I don't know whether to laugh or cry when my ang moh friend was so excited about getting an executive job in Singapore. His university scores were half past six and his experience miniscule but because he is 'foreign', his pay packet was higher than most Singaporeans. Plus he can't get a proper job on his home ground. That's your foreign talent. But of course, I congratulated him on his luck.
So what improvement?