Originally posted by Junyang700:@ Charlize... new tactic...
They have been in power for more than 45 years.... look at the past, the past...
They have been doing so lately, although the response hasnt been quite good.
The opposition unable to pose any thread to them for the alst 45 yrs. If we have a opposition party that's every member knows in their mind...then time to make a kill on pap. But alias....no one comes near them.
never mind the opposition not so well known as PAP................
PAP so famous but what have they done to us ???
TIME TO VOTE OUT THESE............ fuckers in white.............. PEOPLE....................
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:never mind the opposition not so well known as PAP................
PAP so famous but what have they done to us ???
TIME TO VOTE OUT THESE............ fuckers in white.............. PEOPLE....................
So much angst in your postings.
if i could............i'll eat those ministers' flesh and drink their blood.........metaphorically..
Beware... u might be caught for inciting violence...
mod's note, dun worry he wun get into trouble now..
I feel that it's also important that we vote with our conscience and our belief, not with fear.
large part of the 66.6% were gain thru fear, costing substantial oppostion votes.
I shall make this sticky for now, and in due course me or other mods shall line this thread up with regarding FAQs about what goes during Nomination day/Voting Date/Election Date itself.
I'm intimidated...
new mod....
oh mine, why so scared? i not gonna eat you or something?
Originally posted by kengkia:oh mine, why so scared? i not gonna eat you or something?
dunno...
you very fierce leh.
well, politics is no childs play, must take it seriously.
Originally posted by kengkia:well, politics is no childs play, must take it seriously.
Fun is a winning factor.
Originally posted by Clivebenss:Fun is a winning factor.
oh....why u see it this way?
Do you think Ling How Doong's "DUN TOK COCK"'s antic help to retain his seat? no.
Originally posted by kengkia:oh....why u see it this way?
why? If everything is so rigid and regimental, the voters will go to sleep no matter how good the policies and ideas are.
okay...noted...i shall post here in more light hearted way..
election coming.
be bold and true to yourself if not Singapore.
vote without fear.
If the officer shouted out your name and IC number, it might constitute a voting irregularity.
Last election, a letter to ST Forum said this guy's polling officer wrote his IC number on his ballot slip in pencil! He asked her why and she did not give him an answer. He was not able to complain and get a clean ballot slip on the spot.
The official reply to his letter was, this is an irregularity that should not be repeated. The polling officer was acting on her own. If this is true, there are alot of stupid and fanatical people out there. Maybe your officer was the same person.
But the election was still considered "free and fair enough".
elections are coming.
just discovered the flash in the pan symbol is similar to what was used by british union of fascists.
sigh...
Yes voting is secret, DO NOT WORRY YOUR VOTES ARE BEING TRACKED !!!
secret or no secret.sporeans already lost so much...what could be worse?
if 4 million people voted againstb the PAP they have no way to punish all of the 4 million voters who voted against them.
just make sure the opposition is up to the job..and when opposition is up to the job.....then PAP is finished and everyone will lead a normal life and have families kids etc etc.a quality life for evetyone.
i suggest to place half of pap seats in dock n to be reserved to the oppositions with qualified and respectable positions.dun get consultants with no million dollar income!
the main idea to place half of PAP to be in parliament should be realised that they must be there in case transactions from past PAP overseas policies go wrong on finANCIAL LEVEL.
the opposition will have 50% and pap have 50% seats.even if the opposition won all seats there is still no chance of progresss for spore as a whole like the soviet union.
that way it will make a better future for singapreans in spore.
Actually it's economies of scale lah, they really don't have the effort, time, and resources to go about fixing everybody that didn't vote for them. All this talk about intimidation is just coming from an atmosphere of paranoia that we as mature and responsible citizens should really aim to dispel.
Look at it this way as well, does "fixing" anybody who does not vote for PAP really benefitial to the ruling party in the long run? Instead of intimidating people, it will end up making them even more opposed to a party that screws them over simply for not agreeing with them. In the long run they are just eroding their own support base.
This is not to mention that if our vote is not secret and can be used against us, then the entire elections commision is corrupt... wouldn't it be less trouble to just rig the entire elections instead of bothering to find out each and every single person that didn't vote PAP and then screw them over individually. Nobody is that boliao.
So yes, lets all be less paranoid and vote responsibily, because your vote is secret.
Now fixing entire SMCs who didn't vote for them... that's another thing...
Original thread in CAL:
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/sh....php?t=3200566
http://geraldgiam.sg/2010/09/your-vote-is-secret/
Your vote is secret
By Gerald Giam
16 September 2010
Many
Singaporeans harbour the misconception that their vote during elections
is not secret. I’ve talked to many people, both educated and less
educated, and the overwhelming majority seem to think this way. This is
despite the fact that at every election, the Elections Department takes
pains to communicate to voters two main points: Voting is compulsory,
and voting is secret. I guess this is a point that Singaporeans just
refuse to believe our government about.
It is even more
unfortunate that some persist in perpetuating this urban myth, which
only serves to strike more fear into the hearts of Singaporeans who are
thinking of voting for the opposition. A letter in Temasek Review today
exhorted Singaporeans to spoil their votes because, the writer reasoned,
then the PAP won’t “mark” you for voting against them and if there are
enough invalid votes, it will indirectly increase the opposition’s share
of the valid vote.
This is wrong on many counts. I’ll highlight
just two: Firstly, the PAP does not know which party you voted for, so
they won’t know who to “mark”, even if they wanted to. Secondly, invalid
votes do not factor in the final count, which is based on valid votes.
This means that if there were 10 votes–six for the PAP, three for the
opposition and one spoiled–the final tally is 66.6 per cent to the PAP
(six divided by nine, with the spoiled vote excluded), not 60 per cent.
Let’s be very clear: YOUR VOTE IS SECRET. I will take you through the whole balloting process to see why:
1.
On Polling Day, each voter at the polling station is issued a ballot
paper without his name on it. (I’ll talk about the serial numbers
later.) He/she marks the ballot paper in a booth out of sight of anyone
else. No cameras are permitted in the polling station so there is no way
to observe how voters vote. The voter then folds up the paper and drops
it in the ballot box. Throughout the day, counting agents from each
party are at the polling station to ensure the ballot boxes are not
opened.
2. At the close of polling, usually at 8pm on the same
day, the ballot boxes are sealed with tamper-proof seals (which are
signed over by the candidates) and transported to the Counting Centre.
3.
At the Counting Centre, the ballot boxes from the polling stations are
unsealed in the presence of the candidates and their assistants and
emptied in a common heap. The election officials (who are civil
servants) then count the votes in full view of the candidates from all
contesting parties, who ensure that the votes are counted properly and
the election officials follow all the rules.
4. Immediately
after counting, the votes, together with all the relevant records, the
stubs of the ballot papers and any unused ballot papers are sealed in
the boxes (again with tamper-proof seals) and transported to the Supreme
Court vault for storage.
5. Six months later, if there are no
disputes over the outcome of the election, the sealed boxes are
transported to the incineration plant, where, in the presence of all the
candidates (including the losers), the votes and records are completely
destroyed by fire.
As you can see from above, at no point are
the boxes opened without the candidates or representatives from all the
contesting parties being present.
Frequently asked questions
Q. What about the serial numbers on the ballot papers?
This
is a safeguard against election fraud such as bringing counterfeit
ballot papers into the polling station, voter impersonation or casting
ballot papers which have been marked by others. Many other countries,
including the UK, have numbered ballot papers. As explained above, there
is no opportunity for the election officials or candidates to peek at
the votes and match them against the electoral roll. Remember there are
no names on the voting slips, and if one wanted to match the serial
numbers, one would have to sift through a huge list of thousands of
voters in full view of the candidates.
It is possible, though,
that in the event of a disputed outcome, the courts could order that the
boxes be taken out of storage and the votes recounted. However this
would again be done in full view of the candidates. In any case, there
has been no court order issued to retrieve votes since Singapore first
conducted elections in 1948.
Q. Why does the election official call out my name and voter number at the polling station before giving me the ballot paper?
So
as to enable the representatives of contesting political parties at the
polling station to verify and cross out your name on their copies of
the electoral register. They will know you voted, but won’t know who you
voted for.
Q.
After elections, some politicians say certain blocks supported the
ruling party or opposition. Does it mean they know my vote?
Nobody
knows how each individual voted. Each polling station serves about 10
to 20 blocks of flats or a few landed housing estates. They may know the
aggregated number from each polling district, but not the individual
votes.