whylikethatah...you can also find statues in the Churches. Are you implying that the Jesus Christ statue or the Mother Mary statue is also inhabited with spirits?
have you tried metta yet? metta mind ie wish her to be well and happy.
Originally posted by LavenderWu:Metta not yet, cos I need to learn from youtube first.
no need to learn lar. just wish these to her by mind :-
may you be well and happy
may you be free from suffering
may your faith in the triple gem never ceases
you can continue from here
Hi LavendarWu, please dont misunderstand my meaning of wrathful. Is not some "dark forces" i quoted wrathful means as you know about vajrayana, In vajrayana there is many wrathful deity but their base is still purely base on compassion, loving kindness.
These practices is very good in removing hindrances... But do consult a lama that is able to do divination to advice you on what path to take.
If you want, i can pass you some blessed powder to try to pacified nagative forces....
learn metta sutra. this will solve your problem.
Giving advices are easy for this kind of case but if the spirit is unhappy, its target will turn towards those who help to banish it or hinder it from its original target.
That's why when you want to help all the way, you have to be prepare that the spirit will follow you instead.
just to share my personal experience. I chose to help an very old friend of over 20 years to solve her father's case. I helped in the sense that i brought the whole family to a centre to do prayer, arrange for the master to visit the home etc. I told my friend that the spirits who were stopped from disturbing her father would turn their attention to the family who lived together and to those who helped in the process.
Cut story short, the son suffered an accident that injured his hand in the same week. I also took over some and fell very sick but my old friend's father finally got his peace and stopped being disturbed.
My friend and her family suffered mentally over one year when the father kept wanting to jump off the flat because he heard voices telling him to. They literally had to pull him off the balcony every morning. They spent so much on seeing doctors and specialists. They don't mind spending the money but their case is not what doctor can solve.
when i found out what happened , i told my friend to try the spiritual way as the last resort. I knew i would be in deep shit if all the spiritual creditors of my friend's father turned their wrath on me but i was prepared to help my friend out. Also i have the confidance i can do my own praying and chanting to help myself.
my point of relating my experience is to remind all the kind souls here, if you want to help in this type of spirtual case, you have to be ready mentally and physically that you will need to take over some negativity from helping. Of course your kind fruit will also be manifest later after you suffer first.
the worst case to help is the black magic type. I know that even very powerful and experienced Thai monk could die from fighting with the other side. Black magic is worse than the usual spirtual encounters.
Originally posted by Leogirldreamer:whylikethatah...you can also find statues in the Churches. Are you implying that the Jesus Christ statue or the Mother Mary statue is also inhabited with spirits?
I merely typed what I typed. About what I implied, is just basically your conjecture. If anyone not happy, I already said, go and find the author of that site the Dr kktan and ask him.
Originally posted by "newbie":Hi LavendarWu, please dont misunderstand my meaning of wrathful. Is not some "dark forces" i quoted wrathful means as you know about vajrayana, In vajrayana there is many wrathful deity but their base is still purely base on compassion, loving kindness.
These practices is very good in removing hindrances... But do consult a lama that is able to do divination to advice you on what path to take.
If you want, i can pass you some blessed powder to try to pacified nagative forces....
Hi "newbie",
Can one participate in pujas of the Vajrayana tradition (for the removal of hindrances) if one does not belong to that tradition, or for that matter intend to continue learning about Vajrayana? (generally, I subscribe to the Mahayana viewpoint and I have faith in bodhisattvas and dharma protectors as such.)
whylikethatha...that is an interesting website, Dr TKK writes very well.
Hi realization.
As my guru say, vajrayana is still mahayana and is good to understand mahayana before going into vajrayana.
Basically majority of the puja are perform to open public, anyone can join. There is a few centres that that have frequent hindrances removal puja that many many people join in.
Those puja that not open to public are those that need to be initiated into that particular practices, but then those normally will have indication that is meant for initiated only.
This weekend have some puja that is open to public..
black magic, white magic, magic johnson, whatever.
use metta, its the best protection one can get. practise your 5 precepts without breaking any, the dhamma protectors will protect you.
have you actually send a spirit away by your method above?
The Buddha's disciples did. Buddha advised them to go back to the forests and practise metta to the beings in forest who disturbed them. they did what they were told and the inhabitants in the forest did not gave them any more problems.
actually you are right. The power of refuge is fantastic.
There is a teaching is that with refuge in the triple gem and practice the 5 precept, no negative forces can harm you.
Another teaching i came across to dispel spirit harm is also generating loving kindness, but there is many steps of self generation before can dispel the spirit harm.
In simple my level of loving kindness and concentration is still far far far away... Thus i dont think i can achieve the protection level needed.
if anyone who cast a black magic on you, you just concentrate on metta and wish the person well, the black magic will be rebounded to the person twice the effect.
are you sure ? where did you get this info ? have you ever tried it with success?
are you talking from your experience or someone's else you know
or you are just talking off the book .
Lavender Wu , if you can attend enough Tibetan fire puja, esp the true lineaged one or a famous rebirth rinpoche 's fire puja, you might solve your problem.
Vajrayana Fire Puja is very effective for wishes.
I want to ask something and need everybody advice.
Supposing you meet something bad, be it walking (something follow you), or working (got problem and you alone) or family (quarrels), and I only know how to chant :Namo Amituofo and Namo Kuansiyin Pusa.
Is it ok?
Originally posted by likeyou:I want to ask something and need everybody advice.
Supposing you meet something bad, be it walking (something follow you), or working (got problem and you alone) or family (quarrels), and I only know how to chant :Namo Amituofo and Namo Kuansiyin Pusa.
Is it ok?
sure, i do it too.
Originally posted by sinweiy:sure, i do it too.
Not as a wet blanket but rather to kill my curiosity. Why sometimes it does not work? Got someone kena bully by the spirit chant amitofo, spirit not afraid, why?
Originally posted by Rooney9:if anyone who cast a black magic on you, you just concentrate on metta and wish the person well, the black magic will be rebounded to the person twice the effect.
Like that still call 'metta' or 'loving kindness' meh? Lol