thanks yjhow for the info.
As a buddhist, i have tried to minimize the invasion of ants, cockroaches, lizards in my house by cleaning up all bits and crumbles so that ants will not come and stay and by making sure my kitchen is neat and clean. Yet some will still come , so i think this gadget may solve my problems of no killing too.
cockroaches not only need food but dark places for living space too.
I've done some online research on "fixed karma" especially on the worst 5 evils at Chinese Wikipedia: http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BA%94%E9%80%86%E7%BD%AA
According to Pureland Buddhism (净土法门）, under the sutra of 無�壽經 (sutra of immeasurable longetivity), under Amitabha buddha's 48 vows, the number 18 vows (�念必生- 10 chanting will initiate rebirth into pureland) had an exclusive saying.
唯除五逆。誹謗æ£æ³• (Apart from committing 5 worst evils and slandering Buddhism). i.e. apart from committing 5 worst evils and slandering Buddhism, it is possible to be reborn into Amitabha's Pureland.
The 18th vow is as follow:
我作佛時。å��方眾生。è�žæˆ‘å��è™Ÿã€‚è‡³å¿ƒä¿¡æ¨‚ã€‚æ‰€æœ‰å–„æ ¹ã€‚å¿ƒå¿ƒå›žå�‘。願生我國。乃至å��念。若ä¸�生者。ä¸�å�–æ£è¦ºã€‚唯除五逆。誹謗æ£æ³•ã€‚
(When I become a buddha, all sentient beings, when they listen to my Buddha name, feel happy and rejoiceful. They will realize all goods.They all wants to be reborn into my pureland. Upon 10 chanting of my name, if one is not reborn, I will not realize Buddhahood. The only exception is 5 worst evils and slandering the right dharma)
However, in the 佛說觀無�壽佛經 (Buddha talks about observing immeasurable longetivity Buddha sutra), there was a written scripture:
å�³ä½¿é€ 五逆罪也能往生，僅誹謗æ£æ³•ä¸�得往生。
(even if one commits the 5 worst evils, only those who slander buddhism will not be reborn).
There are true buddhist story of Ajatashatru 阿�世王 (disciples of Buddha) killing his parents, attempted murder of Shayamuni Buddha by Devadatta �婆�多 and spoiling of the sangha community. I check some texts saying they are reborn into realm of hell. But Pureland buddhist texts says they have repented and have been reborn into pureland.
Venerable Jinkong 淨空法師 (a high buddhist monk from Taiwan) 's explanation is that those who cannot be reborn into pureland are those who slander buddhism or the right dharma because they refuse to believe, cannot accept, do not wish to reborn into the pureland. That was the greatest obstacle they have.
In any case, just follow the true buddhist teaching.
Do good
Avoid Evil
Purify your mind
Amongst the worst evil, killing carries the worst karma. So avoid killing at all costs.
I would like to ask what is considered slandering buddhism? Because there are times when because of ignorance, I misinterpret the dharma and may have said the wrong meanings to others. Also, I may have spoken about the dharma casually and without thinking.
Originally posted by Beautiful951:I would like to ask what is considered slandering buddhism? Because there are times when because of ignorance, I misinterpret the dharma and may have said the wrong meanings to others. Also, I may have spoken about the dharma casually and without thinking.
"Slandering Buddhism" actually is very simple to understand. The best way to understand it is that it means holding the wrong evil view (邪見）. The opposite of it is what's known as Right View (æ£è¦‹ï¼‰in Buddha's noble eightfold path (å…«æ£é�“）. Right view constitutes belief in karma, causes and effect (å› æžœï¼‰. Those who do not believe in karma, causes and effect will continue to commit evil because they do not realize that bad karma will lead to rebirth in the lower realm and retribution in this lifetime, will continue to suffer and therefore will not "do good" to salvage their own past bad karma. If they continue to commit evil, how can they be reborn into the pureland or even realize enlightenment? Realizing right view (æ£è¦‹ï¼‰and intention （æ£æ€�ç¶ï¼‰ requires wisdom as taught in Buddhism. That's why Buddhism emphasize so much on realizing wisdom.
In a certain way, slandering Buddhism is sometimes equal to disbelief, mocking and thus slandering Buddha's noble 8 foldpath. Slandering noble 8 foldpath means rejecting the entire buddha's basic teaching on path towards enlightenment. Even if Buddha shows you the way towards self-liberation, if you do not walk the way, it's as useless as it is. You won't be able to realize enlightenment, which is the goal of all buddhist.
Originally posted by yhjow:"Slandering Buddhism" actually is very simple to understand. The best way to understand it is that it means holding the wrong evil view (邪見）. The opposite of it is what's known as Right View (æ£è¦‹ï¼‰in Buddha's noble eightfold path (å…«æ£é�“）. Right view constitutes belief in karma, causes and effect. Those who do not believe in karma, causes and effect will continue to commit evil because they do not realize that bad karma will lead to rebirth in the lower realm and retribution in this lifetime, and therefore will not "do good" to salvage their own past bad karma. If they continue to commit evil, how can they be reborn into the pureland or even realize enlightenment? Realizing right view and intention requires wisdom as taught in Buddhism. That's why Buddhism emphasize so much on realizing wisdom.
In a certain way, slandering Buddhism is sometimes equal to disbelief, mocking and thus slandering Buddha's noble 8 foldpath. Slandering noble 8 foldpath means rejecting the entire buddha's basic teaching on path towards enlightenment. Even if Buddha shows you the way towards self-liberation, if you do not walk the way, it's as useless as it is. You won't be able to realize enlightenment, which is the goal of all buddhist.
Do you think that I have slandered the dharma?
Originally posted by yhjow:"Slandering Buddhism" actually is very simple to understand. The best way to understand it is that it means holding the wrong evil view (邪見）. The opposite of it is what's known as Right View (æ£è¦‹ï¼‰in Buddha's noble eightfold path (å…«æ£é�“）. Right view constitutes belief in karma, causes and effect (å› æžœï¼‰. Those who do not believe in karma, causes and effect will continue to commit evil because they do not realize that bad karma will lead to rebirth in the lower realm and retribution in this lifetime, will continue to suffer and therefore will not "do good" to salvage their own past bad karma. If they continue to commit evil, how can they be reborn into the pureland or even realize enlightenment? Realizing right view (æ£è¦‹ï¼‰and intention （æ£æ€�ç¶ï¼‰ requires wisdom as taught in Buddhism. That's why Buddhism emphasize so much on realizing wisdom.
In a certain way, slandering Buddhism is sometimes equal to disbelief, mocking and thus slandering Buddha's noble 8 foldpath. Slandering noble 8 foldpath means rejecting the entire buddha's basic teaching on path towards enlightenment. Even if Buddha shows you the way towards self-liberation, if you do not walk the way, it's as useless as it is. You won't be able to realize enlightenment, which is the goal of all buddhist.
people don't have to believe in karma in order to do good and stop committing evil. duh.
people can just do good without believing in karma, i'm one of them. u do good, u do good. finish. what for believe in karma. it's just like asking me to believe there's the fellow in the sky directing whatever's happening in our lives and on earth. both concepts are not verifiable, so i'm not going to believe in them.
Originally posted by Beautiful951:Do you think that I have slandered the dharma?
It's up to you to think whether you have slandered the dharma. I don't know your own action. Only you know your action. The Buddha says you need to always self-reflect upon your daily action (karma) and re-examine whether they constitute good or bad action.
Originally posted by whylikethatah:people don't have to believe in karma in order to do good and stop committing evil. duh.
people can just do good without believing in karma, i'm one of them. u do good, u do good. finish. what for believe in karma. it's just like asking me to believe there's the fellow in the sky directing whatever's happening in our lives and on earth. both concepts are not verifiable, so i'm not going to believe in them.
Then in this case, you're not a buddhist. True buddhist do believe in karma, causes and condition, causes and effects. In any case, if you don't believe in karma, it's your own choice.
However, the school of Yocagara buddhism does offer a logical and rather scientific (psychological) explanation of karma. IMO, their explanation of karma is the best
Our mind have 8 consiousness.
The first 5 consciousness are:
1. the visual consciousness çœ¼è˜ (eyes)
2. auditory consciousness è€³è˜ (hearing)
3. olfactory consciousness é¼»è˜ (smelling)
4. gustatory consciousness èˆŒè˜ (tongue tasting)
5. tactile consciousness èº«è˜ (body feel)
The first 5 consciousness forms what's known as "sensory perception" in our mind. It's what we perceive through our sense in our daily life.
The other 3 consiousness are:
6. mano consciousness æ„�è˜ - this is like a "processor of our sensory perception". It is the thinking region of the consciousness thought. This consciousness plays many roles, including the gathering of sensory perceptions, conducting of value judgments, calculation, emotion, and intention. Unlike the prior five consciousnesses, it can take the past and future into consideration, as well as the present into consideration. It takes as its objects linguistics constructs and perceptual images, called 法 in the YogâcÄ�ra texts. Like the prior five consciousnesses, it operates during waking consciousness, but also during shallow (dreaming) sleep.
7. manas consciousness æœ«é‚£è˜ - this acts as a "transmitting agent" to 8th consciousness Ä�layavijñÄ�na 阿賴耶è˜. This consciousness localizes experience through thinking. Its primary function is to perceive the subjective position of 8th consciousness Ä�layavijñÄ�na 阿賴耶è˜, construct itself as "one-self" and thus creates self-attachment.
8. Ä�layavijñÄ�na consciousness é˜¿è³´è€¶è˜ - this acts as the "storage consciousness". It's where all your karmic seeds are stored (just like a database). This is the most fundamental region of consciousness, functioning as the repository of all the impressions from one's experiences. When you commit a good act, your good karmic seeds are stored here. When you commit an evil act, your evil karmic seeds are also stored here. These karmic seeds will not be lost or die off and gets carried over in our mindstream after our death and carried over to the next life during rebirth. Under the right causes and conditions, these karmic seeds will ripen and a "happening" will take place (which might be good or bad depending on the karma's goodness or evilness).
So how does causes and effects å› æžœ works in karma? Basically, a cause will lead to an effect. Causes and effects come from Ä�layavijñÄ�na consciousness 阿賴耶è˜. Take for instance an evil act such as watching porn movie. Although one does not masturbate, why then a few days later will one masturbate? This is because Ä�layavijñÄ�na consciousness é˜¿è³´è€¶è˜ has already recorded through the eyes (visual consciousness 眼è˜) the image of the porn. The 6th mano consciousness æ„�è˜ creates the sexual thoughts and cravings. The 7th manas consciousness æœ«é‚£è˜ then transmits this consciousness to the 8th Ä�layavijñÄ�na consciousness é˜¿è³´è€¶è˜ (storage consciousness) where it is stored as an evil karmic seed (or imprint in our mind). When the right conditions (timing, chances) occur, an "event/happenings" will occur, causes someone to commit a sexual misconduct such as masturbation or even buying sex. This evil act of sexual misconduct will be further recorded as a karmic imprint in the 8th Ä�layavijñÄ�na consciousness é˜¿è³´è€¶è˜ .
These 8 consciousness influences our behavior, mental mind and our thoughts. When one commits lots of evil, the 8th Ä�layavijñÄ�na consciousness é˜¿è³´è€¶è˜ is filled with lots of evil karmic seeds. This will continue to accumulate causing one to continue to commit evils and with the right causes and conditions, it returns to the person as an evil effect (惡果), causing further sufferings. On the contrary, if one do lots of good, the 8th Ä�layavijñÄ�na consciousness é˜¿è³´è€¶è˜ is filled with lots of good karmic seeds. This will continue to accumulate causing one to continue to do good and with the right causes and conditions, it returns to the person as an good effect (å–„æžœ), causing more happiness.
Originally posted by yhjow:Then in this case, you're not a buddhist. True buddhist do believe in karma, causes and condition, causes and effects. In any case, if you don't believe in karma, it's your own choice.
However, the school of Yocagara buddhism does offer a logical and rather scientific (psychological) explanation of karma. IMO, their explanation of karma is the best
Our mind have 8 consiousness.
The first 5 consciousness are:
1. the visual consciousness çœ¼è˜ (eyes)2. auditory consciousness è€³è˜ (hearing)
3. olfactory consciousness é¼»è˜ (smelling)
4. gustatory consciousness èˆŒè˜ (tongue tasting)
5. tactile consciousness èº«è˜ (body feel)
The first 5 consciousness forms what's known as "sensory perception" in our mind. It's what we perceive through our sense in our daily life.
The other 3 consiousness are:
6. mano consciousness æ„�è˜ - this is like a "processor of our sensory perception". It is the thinking region of the consciousness thought. This consciousness plays many roles, including the gathering of sensory perceptions, conducting of value judgments, calculation, emotion, and intention. Unlike the prior five consciousnesses, it can take the past and future into consideration, as well as the present into consideration. It takes as its objects linguistics constructs and perceptual images, called 法 in the YogâcÄ�ra texts. Like the prior five consciousnesses, it operates during waking consciousness, but also during shallow (dreaming) sleep.
7. manas consciousness æœ«é‚£è˜ - this acts as a "transmitting agent" to 8th consciousness Ä�layavijñÄ�na 阿賴耶è˜. This consciousness localizes experience through thinking. Its primary function is to perceive the subjective position of 8th consciousness Ä�layavijñÄ�na 阿賴耶è˜, construct itself as "one-self" and thus creates self-attachment.
8. Ä�layavijñÄ�na consciousness é˜¿è³´è€¶è˜ - this acts as the "storage consciousness". It's where all your karmic seeds are stored (just like a database). This is the most fundamental region of consciousness, functioning as the repository of all the impressions from one's experiences. When you commit a good act, your good karmic seeds are stored here. When you commit an evil act, your evil karmic seeds are also stored here. These karmic seeds will not be lost or die off and gets carried over in our mindstream after our death and carried over to the next life during rebirth. Under the right causes and conditions, these karmic seeds will ripen and a "happening" will take place (which might be good or bad depending on the karma's goodness or evilness).
So how does causes and effects å› æžœ works in karma? Basically, a cause will lead to an effect. Causes and effects come from Ä�layavijñÄ�na consciousness 阿賴耶è˜. Take for instance an evil act such as watching porn movie. Although one does not masturbate, why then a few days later will one masturbate? This is because Ä�layavijñÄ�na consciousness é˜¿è³´è€¶è˜ has already recorded through the eyes (visual consciousness 眼è˜) the image of the porn. The 6th mano consciousness æ„�è˜ creates the sexual thoughts and cravings. The 7th manas consciousness æœ«é‚£è˜ then transmits this consciousness to the 8th Ä�layavijñÄ�na consciousness é˜¿è³´è€¶è˜ (storage consciousness) where it is stored as an evil karmic seed (or imprint in our mind). When the right conditions (timing, chances) occur, an "event/happenings" will occur, causes someone to commit a sexual misconduct such as masturbation or even buying sex. This evil act of sexual misconduct will be further recorded as a karmic imprint in the 8th Ä�layavijñÄ�na consciousness é˜¿è³´è€¶è˜ .
These 8 consciousness influences our behavior, mental mind and our thoughts. When one commits lots of evil, the 8th Ä�layavijñÄ�na consciousness é˜¿è³´è€¶è˜ is filled with lots of evil karmic seeds. This will continue to accumulate causing one to continue to commit evils and with the right causes and conditions, it returns to the person as an evil effect (惡果), causing further sufferings. On the contrary, if one do lots of good, the 8th Ä�layavijñÄ�na consciousness é˜¿è³´è€¶è˜ is filled with lots of good karmic seeds. This will continue to accumulate causing one to continue to do good and with the right causes and conditions, it returns to the person as an good effect (å–„æžœ), causing more happiness.
yeah i'm not a buddhist, and even if i were to be a formal buddhist in future, i still won't believe in karma, not because i have proof that it is fake, but simply because it is unverifiable. it's just a neutral stand. don't u get it?
the thing is, to you, whether i believe in karma or not, effects are still going to happen. to me, i don't believe, and whether i know what u've typed or not, is also irrelevant, because i don't have to know 'oh this is 1st to 8th consciousness' in order to gain enlightenment. i just simply do good, and be done with it. so simple.
Originally posted by whylikethatah:yeah i'm not a buddhist, and even if i were to be a formal buddhist in future, i still won't believe in karma, not because i have proof that it is fake, but simply because it is unverifiable. it's just a neutral stand. don't u get it?
the thing is, to you, whether i believe in karma or not, effects are still going to happen. to me, i don't believe, and whether i know what u've typed or not, is also irrelevant, because i don't have to know 'oh this is 1st to 8th consciousness' in order to gain enlightenment. i just simply do good, and be done with it. so simple.
What you said was very close to Zen teachings. I don't know whether you have listened to any dharma talk but what you said was very close to Buddha's teachings. However, it is good to listen to dharma talks because you are unable to judge what is good and what is bad.
If one did not listen to dharma talk, one will think that there is nothing wrong with killing animals. If you listen to the dharma talk, you will think of the pain the animals going through. We still need Buddh's guidance on what is good and what is bad.
Originally posted by whylikethatah:yeah i'm not a buddhist, and even if i were to be a formal buddhist in future, i still won't believe in karma, not because i have proof that it is fake, but simply because it is unverifiable. it's just a neutral stand. don't u get it?
the thing is, to you, whether i believe in karma or not, effects are still going to happen. to me, i don't believe, and whether i know what u've typed or not, is also irrelevant, because i don't have to know 'oh this is 1st to 8th consciousness' in order to gain enlightenment. i just simply do good, and be done with it. so simple.
Things don't happen on its own without causes and conditions. Karma is not really a matter of blind faith or belief. Things do happen due to our own intention (guided by our karma), creating a cause and under the right conditions, a certain happening will occur and can be testifiable in our daily life.
Karma is verifiable and can be testifiable in our daily life. I've encountered people with suffering and ask what they have done in the past. I was in China for a "beggar festival" partly to do some generosity work to give the 'beggars' some money and alms. A beggar I met was disabled with his hand being cut off. I asked what what he has done to cause his hand being cut off by. He replied he had been engaging in fishing for a long time and his hand got caught up in the fishing boat's engine. His hand was then ripped off. In buddhism, one should not fish or hunt, as that constitute killing. His very negative act caused his hand to be cut off. His fishing act left him a negative karmic imprint in his mind, and under the causes (i.e. fishing) and conditions (his hand got caught up in fishing boat's engine), such negative happenings will return upon him (his hand got cut off). Those fishes who had also been hunted and killed are also full of pain and hatred. Their mind sought to seek revenge on the fisherman and thus will do negative things to the fisherman to seek vengence on him. Hatred is the root of evil. It causes suffering. Unfortunately, this man does not know buddhism and ignorance blinds him, and he does not know what causes his own suffering.
I also once read a newspaper article from Malaysia about a man who got killed by his own gun at home. According to this newspaper, this man had been engaging in hunting birds in his present life time. According to the newspaper report, he was sitting in his living room. The gun suddenly goes off "accidentally" and kills him. His killing act (by hunting bird) causes the killing to return back to him. In karma, we talk about minds full of hatred. The birds who got killed sought revenge on the man who hunted him. Inevitably, it caused this man to be killed by the very gun that he used to kill other birds. The negative action returns back to him.
A divorce family (broken family) does not happen without causes and conditions, and does not happen without negative karma. Usually the negative karma is sexual misconduct such as adultery (sex outside marriage) or extra-marital affairs. A disloyal husband's very act of fooling around outside with other woman lefts a negative karmic imprint in his mind. This negative karma further influences his own behaviour, such as late hours at night, and excuses to work outside. He began to dislike his own wife and starts to quarrel with him. His wife began to suspect he is having affairs outside. Under the right causes and conditons (such as hiring a private detective outside), the wife will find out about this man's unfaithful adultery. This further lead to quarrels and then divorce effect. The man's negative karma (such as sexual misconduct) returns back to the man (ending up as a suffering in the form of broken family/divorce).
There are countless of further examples of verifiable karma if you looks at tabloid news.
A person who engages in stealing usually ends up being caught and jailed. His very negative act of stealing (bad karma) returns upon back to him as a negative suffering (criminal offence and jailing).
A person who is bounded by greed and engage in gambling addiction left the person in great debt. He resorted to stealing to pay off his debt but ended in jail. His own negative act of greed (gambling) returns upon back to him as a negative suffering (poverty in the form of great debt, and jail sentence). Greed leads to poverty. This is moral law of karma.
A girl who engages in business of selling sex toys (a negative karma of sexual misconduct) ended up with his boyfriend calling her a "slut" and lead to them being broken up. Her negative karma (of sexual misconduct) returns back upon to her (with sufferings such as being called a 'slut' and broken relationship).
You do good. You reap good. You do evil. You reap evil. This is the moral law of karma.
Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:You are very close to enlightenment. I don't know whether you have listened to any dharma talk but what you said was very close to Buddha's teachings. However, it is good to listen to dharma talks because you are unable to judge what is good and what is bad.
If one did not listen to dharma talk, one will think that there is nothing wrong with killing animals. If you listen to the dharma talk, you will think of the pain the animals going through. We still need Buddh's guidance on what is good and what is bad.
now u're attacking me on my understanding of 'good' and 'bad' and u're saying i don't necessarily know the meaning of both, just because i'm not a 'true buddhist' in someone else's words. if one doesn't know what they mean, then even buddha cannot help that fellow. buddha is only the teacher and his teachings the guide, but they don't necessarily spell out everything in detail for ignoramuses.
To avoid all evil, to cultivate good, and to cleanse one's mind — this is the teaching of the Buddhas.
from the dhammapada 183. i don't see where it specifically says what constitutes good and bad.
Originally posted by whylikethatah:if a mosquito is supposed to bite u, then it is your karma, according to the logic of karma.
if u use insect repellent, u're interfering with your karma from playing itself out too.
If you are sick no need to see doctor, if you die from your ailments, it's your KARMA.
If you get bitten by Aedes Mosquito, it's your Karma to die by Dengue Fever.
Things don't happen on its own without causes and conditions. Karma is not really a matter of blind faith or belief. Things do happen due to our own intention (guided by our karma), creating a cause and under the right conditions, a certain happening will occur and can be testifiable in our daily life.
Don't put words in my mouth when you have not grasped what i meant or are unable to. When I said that i take a neutral stand, i meant that i leave it aside and neither am i accepting nor rejecting karma. However, if u ask me to accept karma wholesale, i have to say no. karma and its resulting effects are not verifiable by myself right now.
Karma is verifiable and can be testifiable in our daily life. I've encountered people with suffering and ask what they have done in the past. I was in China for a "beggar festival" partly to do some generosity work to give the 'beggars' some money and alms. A beggar I met was disabled with his hand being cut off. I asked what what he has done to cause his hand being cut off by. He replied he had been engaging in fishing for a long time and his hand got caught up in the fishing boat's engine. His hand was then ripped off. In buddhism, one should not fish or hunt, as that constitute killing. His very negative act caused his hand to be cut off. His fishing act left him a negative karmic imprint in his mind, and under the causes (i.e. fishing) and conditions (his hand got caught up in fishing boat's engine), such negative happenings will return upon him (his hand got cut off). Those fishes who had also been hunted and killed are also full of pain and hatred. Their mind sought to seek revenge on the fisherman and thus will do negative things to the fisherman to seek vengence on him. Hatred is the root of evil. It causes suffering. Unfortunately, this man does not know buddhism and ignorance blinds him, and he does not know what causes his own suffering.
Still, that doesn't convince me of anything. I also have heard stories like that but like i said before, none of us knows for sure the cause and effect. u can say yes the harm done to those animals have caused suffering to the fisherman and blahblah. but still, just speculation at best.
A divorce family (broken family) does not happen without causes and conditions, and does not happen without negative karma. Usually the negative karma is sexual misconduct such as adultery (sex outside marriage) or extra-marital affairs. A disloyal husband's very act of fooling around outside with other woman lefts a negative karmic imprint in his mind. This negative karma further influences his own behaviour, such as late hours at night, and excuses to work outside. He began to dislike his own wife and starts to quarrel with him. His wife began to suspect he is having affairs outside. Under the right causes and conditons (such as hiring a private detective outside), the wife will find out about this man's unfaithful adultery. This further lead to quarrels and then divorce effect. The man's negative karma (such as sexual misconduct) returns back to the man (ending up as a suffering in the form of broken family/divorce).
haha. you had to use 'karma' to explain these things? you can tell a primary school kid to study hard for his exam and if he gets good marks for it, he is able to see why.
there's no need to talk about basic verifiable cause-and-effect relationship. u hold an orange in your hand, let go and it falls due to gravity. you think this is what i'm talking about? forget it.
Originally posted by whylikethatah:
from the dhammapada 183. i don't see where it specifically says what constitutes good and bad.
If you read Mahayana Buddhist text, they specifically laid out the 10 evils negative karma å��惡æ¥.
They are:
1. Killing 殺生
2. Stealing �盜
3. Sexual Misconduct 邪淫
4. Lying 妄語
5. Speaking behind other's back and causing others to have conflicts (including spreading rumours) 兩舌
6. Flattery and Fawning others with dishonest beautiful words 綺語
7. Harsh speech (scolding, bad-mouth, vugarity) 惡�
8. Greed 貪
9. Hatred å—”
10. Ignorance ç—´
The opposite of the above are known as "10 Good Karma" å��å–„æ¥, which most buddhist practise.
1. No killing.
2. No stealing
3. No sexual misconduct
4. No lying
5. No speaking behind one's back and causing others to have conflicts
6. No flattery or fawning others with dishonest beautiful words
7. No harsh speech
8. Generosity
9. Loving-kindness/Compassion
10. Wisdom
Other precepts taken to prevent evils include:
No intoxications such as alcohols, smoking, drugs, gambling, prostitution or any form of addictions.
Originally posted by yhjow:If you read Mahayana Buddhist text, they specifically laid out the 10 evils negative karma å��惡æ¥.
They are:
1. Killing 殺生
2. Stealing �盜
3. Sexual Misconduct 邪淫
4. Lying 妄語
5. Speaking behind other's back and causing others to have conflicts (including spreading rumours) 兩舌
6. Flattery and Fawning others with dishonest beautiful words 綺語
7. Harsh speech (scolding, bad-mouth, vugarity) 惡�
8. Greed 貪
9. Hatred å—”
10. Ignorance ç—´
The opposite of the above are known as "10 Good Karma" å��å–„æ¥, which most buddhist practise.
1. No killing.
2. No stealing
3. No sexual misconduct
4. No lying
5. No speaking behind one's back and causing others to have conflicts
6. No flattery or fawning others with dishonest beautiful words
7. No harsh speech
8. Generosity
9. Loving-kindness/Compassion
10. Wisdom
Other precepts taken to prevent evils include:
No intoxications such as alcohols, smoking, drugs, gambling, prostitution or any form of addictions.
yeah, i have to definitely read that Mahayanist text in order to know what's good and bad. *ahem ahem* :p Thanks.
Originally posted by whylikethatah:now u're attacking me on my understanding of 'good' and 'bad' and u're saying i don't necessarily know the meaning of both, just because i'm not a 'true buddhist' in someone else's words. if one doesn't know what they mean, then even buddha cannot help that fellow. buddha is only the teacher and his teachings the guide, but they don't necessarily spell out everything in detail for ignoramuses.
from the dhammapada 183. i don't see where it specifically says what constitutes good and bad.
Yes, I'm saying the truth and not attacking. I can confidently say that if a person is not a true Buddhist and listen to dharma talks, he will never know what is real good and what is real bad. Buddha is the only wise and enlightened one on earth who knows what is real good and real bad. Most of us are not enlightened and we always use the wrong judgement on what is good and bad.
If you still insist that you know better than Buddha, then carry on and I'll tell you the path to hell is always paved with "good intentions". Our definition of "good " is very far off from Buddha's definition of good.
Irrelevant remarks
For general knowledge. Cockroaches very good in hiding at the corners, damp places, and even torn plastic borders in fridge. Pengsa good in killing cockroaches.
Does Buddhism allow killing of harmful pests?
Originally posted by whylikethatah:
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The teaching regarding Karma is not "majority opinion". It's quite simply, the teaching of the Buddha.
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Originally posted by RemifanSo:
Does Buddhism allow killing of harmful pests?
Buddhism generally advocates no killing of any visible sentient beings. That includes harmful pests, venomous snakes, fierce beasts such as lions, tigers etc.
The Buddha once talked about endless lives in this world and other worlds. He pointed to a cup of water and said that there were eighty four thousand lives in the water (84,000 signifies a large quantity). Today, scientifically, we have understood that the cups of water has millions of mico living organisms under a microscope.
An often perplexing question posted to many buddhist venerables (dharma teacher) is that if we cook or drink the water, wouldn't buddhist be killing the micro-organism (i.e. sentient beings)? Also, certain medicine today kills bacteria to treat diseases. However, it is understood that some of these micro-organism or bacteria do not have any minds. The Buddha has forbidden his disciples (arhat) to use their supernatural (psychic) power to see these micro-organism and thus drinking these water is actually allowed. Thus, as long as the sentient beings cannot be seen with normal naked eyes, we can assume that it's ok to drink the water. Buddhism only discourages killing any sentient beings that can be seen with normal naked eyes.
Many on this thread have provided more than enough information on the subject karma and Whylikethatah have made it quite clear his opinion on the subject as well. I do not believe any more well intention advice and information is going to change his opinion. I think we should all just leave him alone to do his good deeds, reap whatever merits that come his way in this life and in all his future one as well.
Can we also please refrain from anymore further personal attacks as well and stick to the subject matter?
By the way, RemifanSo, in Buddhism all sentient beings, big or small, living in hiding or elsewhere, have as much right to life as any others sentient beings in this world.
accidental post.
See what i mean? deleted my posts again. dawnfirstlight doesn't have to worry about her(i presume) posts being moderated or deleted, because it's a safe haven for her here. it seems to me that my mere suggestion that she could be a 'backstabber' at work is seen to be more serious than her comment supposing that i would 'go to hell' with my 'good intentions'. keep it up, mods.