One vegetarian meal / day
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Not sure if this is still in "fashion" nowaday. About having one vegetarian / vegan meal per day.
Some guys said that utensil and crockery should not touch meat at all, else it is not consider vegetarian. I have been to India. My counterparts were 70% vegetarian. "Try and remove those meat from the food. Basically no problem."
There is not many vegetarian stall like the 90s. Almost every hawker centre have one in those days.
Any vegetarian / vegan out there can advise how to go about eating vegetarian food ? Eg. if I am in a food court / food republic. There is no vegetarian stall.
Any suggestions ?
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From the dessert stall. Red bean, green bean soup, etc.
Milo and bread from the stall that sells drinks and breakfast foods.
If you are not 100% strict, 锅边� may work for you. There is usually one stall that sells a variety of cooked dishes that go with rice. Choose vegetable dishes and pick away the meat and any small shrimp or ikan bilis on it. Tofu dishes will also be another good option.
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Total vegan diet is too extreme imo, and not scripturally supported: even those that encourages vegetarian diets do not for example denounce the consumption of milk or milk based products. Consider too, for example, that when Buddha discovered he was too skinny and weak to attain enlightenment and that he was starving to death through his practice of ascetism, a lady offered milk-rice to him, which he gladly accepted and consumed.
锅边� would be good.
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In the Amagandha Sutta, the Buddha said:
‘Neither meat, nor fasting, nor nakedness,
Nor shaven heads, nor matted hair, nor dirt,
Nor rough skins, nor fire-worshipping,
Nor all the penances here in this world,
Nor hymns, nor oblation, nor sacrifice,
Nor feasts of the season,
Will purify a man overcome with doubt.’
When the Buddha was asked to introduce vegetarianism into the Holy Order by Devadatta, one of His disciples, the Buddha refused to do so. As Buddhism is a free religion, the Buddha’s advice was: To leave the decision regarding vegetarianism to the individual disciple. It clearly shows that the Buddha had not considered this a very important religious observance. The Buddha’s advice was that it is not necessary to go to extremes to practise His Teachings.
Taking meat, eggs, pungent vegetables (garlic, onions, leeks, shallots, etc.) and “robbed food” (milk, honey, bird’s nest, etc.) does not make people become impure. It is bigotry, deceit, self-exaltation, disparagement, evil thoughts and other evil actions/ intentions that make people become impure. In fact, the Buddha declared that it is not what goes into a person’s mouth that pollutes, it is what comes out.
We should not criticise Buddhists who eat meat because it merely shows that we do not understand the Buddhist attitude towards food. Human beings eat to live, we need nourishment. However, if one craves for any kind of food, or kills to satisfy one’s greed for meat, then this is wrong.
Practising self-restraint is eating moderately, without greed and without directly involved in the act of killing but merely to sustain the physical body. The destruction of greed should be the primary aim, not the kind of food that is taken.
Being a vegetarian means no wastage as well. Many years ago, a kind friend offered to give me a dinner treat. It was a special rice dumpling from Taiwan which has many mixed ingredients. When she realised she had offered a non-vegetarian food to me, she suggested that I dispose the rice dumpling. I told her it is fine with me because it is not what we eat but what our real intentions that matters.
So, if you are in a food centre, you can choose to go to any “mixed-rice” stalls and choose only food you are comfortable eating. Disposing utensils or crockeries that has been used for cooking meat so as to remain pure in the name of vegetarianism is incorrect.
Vegetarianism alone does not help a person to cultivate humane qualities.
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Move to the western part of Singapore if you wish to have vegetarian meals.Even I have to eat beef in the eastern part of Singapore.
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Originally posted by Punggol meegoreng:
Not sure if this is still in "fashion" nowaday. About having one vegetarian / vegan meal per day.
Some guys said that utensil and crockery should not touch meat at all, else it is not consider vegetarian. I have been to India. My counterparts were 70% vegetarian. "Try and remove those meat from the food. Basically no problem."
There is not many vegetarian stall like the 90s. Almost every hawker centre have one in those days.
Any vegetarian / vegan out there can advise how to go about eating vegetarian food ? Eg. if I am in a food court / food republic. There is no vegetarian stall.
Any suggestions ?
some YiGuanDao also strict vegetarian. :)
note that the word æ–‹ and the word ç´ got difference.
æ–‹ mean fasting. like the Muslim got 开斋节 open fasting. ç´ is vegetarian. æ–‹ in Buddhism mean not eating after Noon 过å�ˆä¸�食.
how ç´ vegetarian is a form of æ–‹ fasting? as one refrain from meat all the time! :)
we are lay people not odained people during Buddha's time. they can not reject food given, But lay people can choose not to eat meat. Buddha in the end if u look at MahaNirvana Sutra also remove the meat after the disciples collected back their alms. as some collected more, some little, some none, but they are all consolitated and distributed equally when they return to the "forest".
i depend on yuan, if can of cos go to vegetarian stall. if not 锅边�, go to muslim stall to choose the vege and rice. at least theirs vege no pork oil, not over cook and mostly no shrimps. even their 锅边meat got recite sutra compare to chinese meat. :D
than otherwise i go to YongTaoFu to choose 6 vege, mushroom, without the chili sauce. or can go cooked food stall to ask for vegetarian fried rice with/without egg. western restaurant can have vegetarian/tomato pasta/spaghetti.
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Really learned something from you guys !
What is 锅边� ? Never heard of such term.
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Originally posted by Punggol meegoreng:
Really learned something from you guys !
What is 锅边� ? Never heard of such term.
Basically means, the vegetarian stuff in a dish that may have been cooked with meat.
So for example, if you are in a place with no pure vegetarian food, you can choose to eat 锅边�. You dig out the vegetables, tofu, beans, etc. to eat, leaving aside any animal flesh.
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hahaha, if a Buddhist has to be vegetarian, then all cows will be Buddhist.
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then one can also counter say:
"hahaha, if a Buddhist has to be omnivorous, then all pigs will be Buddhist."
or
"hahaha, if a Buddhist has to be canivorous, then all tigers will be Buddhist."
we do promote vegetarianism not veganism for lay Buddhists.
In Buddhism, the views on vegetarianism vary from school to school. According to Theravada, the Buddha allowed his monks to eat pork, chicken and beef if the animal was not killed for the purpose of providing food for monks. Theravada also believes that the Buddha allowed the monks to choose a vegetarian diet, but only prohibited against eating human, elephant, horse, dog, snake, lion, tiger, bear, leopard, and hyena flesh.[1] Buddha prohibited all kinds of meat-eating for his lay followers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_vegetarianism
Vanijja Sutta: Business (Wrong Livelihood)translated from the Pali byThanissaro Bhikkhu"Monks, a lay follower should not engage in five types of business. Which five? Business in weapons, business in human beings, business in meat, business in intoxicants, and business in poison."These are the five types of business that a lay follower should(not must) not engage in."
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an05/an05.177.than.html
Buddhism and Vegetarianism
by Ajahn Jagarohttp://www.buddhismandvegetarianism.org/download/pdf/Buddhism_and_Vegetarianism.pdf
Vegetarianism is a very noble choice, but that choice should be made from the right stand point - out of compassion and understanding. Having made such a choice, don't pollute it with aversion for those who are not vegetarian. The goodness generated by such a choice then becomes corrupted, and in some ways you will be worse than non-vegetarians. We make our choice out of compassion. If we are in a position to explain, we explain it to others according to reason and logic, not by being critical of them for not being vegetarian.
I respect people who are vegetarian. They are acting very nobly; it is a gesture of renunciation. It is a small thing but noble, and very much in keeping with the Buddha's teaching of compassion and understanding. But don't stop there. Even if you are not vegetarian don't think there is nothing else you can do. There's a lot to be done in every area of life, in the way we speak, in the way we act, in everything. Be one who treads lightly, be one who doesn't add unnecessarily to the suffering of humanity and all other sentient beings on this planet. Once we have the intention to at least try, to move in the right direction, we are good disciples of the Buddha. Each person has to walk at his or her own pace.
Taking a Stand
By Ven. Abhinayahttp://www.buddhismandvegetarianism.org/download/pdf/Taking_a_stand.pdf
more info:
http://www.buddhismandvegetarianism.org/vegetarianism/index.htm
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On the 15th and first day of the month , long queues at vegetarian stalls.
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Originally posted by sinweiy:
then one can also counter say:
"hahaha, if a Buddhist has to be omnivorous, then all pigs will be Buddhist."
or
"hahaha, if a Buddhist has to be canivorous, then all tigers will be Buddhist."
we do promote vegetarianism not veganism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_vegetarianism
Vanijja Sutta: Business (Wrong Livelihood)translated from the Pali byThanissaro Bhikkhu"Monks, a lay follower should not engage in five types of business. Which five? Business in weapons, business in human beings, business in meat, business in intoxicants, and business in poison."These are the five types of business that a lay follower should not engage in."
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an05/an05.177.than.html
Buddhism and Vegetarianism
by Ajahn Jagarohttp://www.buddhismandvegetarianism.org/download/pdf/Buddhism_and_Vegetarianism.pdf
Taking a Stand
By Ven. Abhinayahttp://www.buddhismandvegetarianism.org/download/pdf/Taking_a_stand.pdf
more info:
http://www.buddhismandvegetarianism.org/vegetarianism/index.htm
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then one can also counter say:
"hahaha, if a Buddhist has to be omnivorous, then all pigs will be Buddhist."
or
"hahaha, if a Buddhist has to be canivorous, then all tigers will be Buddhist."
ha ha ha..... Sin Wei, you are really good! Sometimes there are people who don't know what they are talking about, talk without thinking.
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Originally posted by I No Stupid:
hahaha, if a Buddhist has to be vegetarian, then all cows will be Buddhist.
hahaha, you can also say you will be pigs, because you and pigs are omnivorous.
Joke of the day!
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By being a Vegetarian, it won't make u more Buddhist neither does being a Non Vegetarian.
Hilter was a hardcore Vegetarian who promote Vegan diet even in social gathering. However, he did not even feel the pain of another fellow human that he imprisioned and tortured in the Nazi camp.
I think by practising compassion in our daily live from the bottom our heart to our mankinds beside the animal is being a Buddhist in reality. Despite of the fact that we may differ in our religion, culture, ethnic and background.
Namu Myoho Renge Kyo
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
Total vegan diet is too extreme imo, and not scripturally supported: even those that encourages vegetarian diets do not for example denounce the consumption of milk or milk based products. Consider too, for example, that when Buddha discovered he was too skinny and weak to attain enlightenment and that he was starving to death through his practice of ascetism, a lady offered milk-rice to him, which he gladly accepted and consumed.
锅边� would be good.
It is not as wise to suggest that vegan diet is too extreme as monastics or many patriarches way of life is vegan! Some animals are "vegetarian" as they've no choice due to karmic of vegetarianism in their past life but ignorantly. Likewise for some human who are born as vegetarianism. Vegetarianism is ç´ èº« while æ–‹is 斋心 - 大悲心。All sentient beings are travelling inside the cycle of rebirth/reincarnation that they have been parents, couples and karmic debtors in the form of animals or human etc. So, it is not logically right to satisfy self-ignorance on the suffering of animals. Vegetarianism may not necessarily let one to leave the cycle of rebirth, but it is generally a prerequisite, although there were some cases of exception. There is also this vegetarianism society that promote vegetarianism for the health of both self and nature.
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Originally posted by reborn76:
By being a Vegetarian, it won't make u more Buddhist neither does being a Non Vegetarian.
Hilter was a hardcore Vegetarian who promote Vegan diet even in social gathering. However, he did not even feel the pain of another fellow human that he imprisioned and tortured in the Nazi camp.
I think by practising compassion in our daily live from the bottom our heart to our mankinds beside the animal is being a Buddhist in reality. Despite of the fact that we may differ in our religion, culture, ethnic and background.
Namu Myoho Renge Kyo
One has to understand why one needs to be a vegetarian or will end up like Hitler who was a vegetarian but did not feel the pain of another fellow human. Venerables always say that being a vegetarian is one way to cultivate compassion (培养慈悲心).
Different people become vegetarian for different reasons. Some become vegetarian because of health reason etc. However, Buddhists must understand that the main reason for being a vegetarian is to cultivate compassion.
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Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:
One has to understand why one needs to be a vegetarian or will end up like Hitler who was a vegetarian but did not feel the pain of another fellow human. Venerables always say that being a vegetarian is one way to cultivate compassion (培养慈悲心).
Different people become vegetarian for different reasons. Some become vegetarian because of health reason etc. However, Buddhists must understand that the main reason for being a vegetarian is to cultivate compassion.
If you cancer still eat meat you might die earlier. Some cancer patients abstain from meat. -
Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:
hahaha, you can also say you will be pigs, because you and pigs are omnivorous.
Joke of the day!
hahaha, the joke is on you and sinweiy, read carefully: "if a Buddhist has to be vegetarian, then all cows will be Buddhist" - note the underlined words.
I think you fit your own assertion: "Sometimes there are people who don't know what they are talking about, talk without thinking."
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Originally posted by Domo Kun:
If you cancer still eat meat you might die earlier. Some cancer patients abstain from meat.Yeah, it is scientifically proven that cancer cells feed on meat proteins.
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I think from now onwards, I'll only reply to people who talk sense.
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Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:
I think from now onwards, I'll only reply to people who talk sense.
hahaha, I have the compassion to talk to people who don't make sense. not because I am vegetarian but because I am humantarian.
What do you think humantarian eats?
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it's ok, Dawnfirstlight, people got the right to laugh at me, i don't mind. i actually post with no sarcastic intention. it's just a simple reverse saying. :)
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Originally posted by I No Stupid:
hahaha, I have the compassion to talk to people who don't make sense. not because I am vegetarian but because I am humantarian.
What do you think humantarian eats?
LOL...if vegetarians eat veggies so you as a humantarian eats human? if you cant even give people the slack for incorrect sentences and always looking for holes I think my joke suits you well ba. A humantarian who even swallow the bones(oops my bad)
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Originally posted by lastime:
LOL...if vegetarians eat veggies so you as a humantarian eats human? if you cant even give people the slack for incorrect sentences and always looking for holes I think my joke suits you well ba. A humantarian who even swallow the bones(oops my bad)
that was my joke .... you just ate it.
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Originally posted by I No Stupid:
that was my joke .... you just ate it.
Oh wow LOL here have it back you can bury it in your holes :P and guys do laugh someone just told a joke! :P