Originally posted by TTFU:Even though you cant see the sun, does it mean that it doesnt exist ? The same with believe, its faith. Do you need any evidence ?
We know why we can't see the sun. Do you know why people don't see hungry ghost?
Originally posted by I No Stupid:We know why we can't see the sun. Do you know why people don't see hungry ghost?
I dont, then do you see god then ?
Originally posted by TTFU:I dont, then do you see god then ?
Here is a little tricky because for a long time people 'believed' in many gods and Gods. You may have to define what is the 'god' you are refering to, then I can tell you.
Originally posted by I No Stupid:Here is a little tricky because for a long time people 'believed' in many gods and Gods. You may have to define what is the 'god' you are refering to, then I can tell you.
So if my god is the hungry ghost why cant i see it ? Do you know why you cant see the sun at night ? Do you believe thats the reason why you cant see the sun at night ?
Originally posted by TTFU:So if my god is the hungry ghost why cant i see it ? Do you know why you cant see the sun at night ? Do you believe thats the reason why you cant see the sun at night ?
You are confusing yourself. I have already said we know why we can't see the sun, and despite not seeing the sun, no one ever says "I believe the sun exists".
You have to describe the 'god' you have in mind. Since you did not but say your god is hungry ghost, then we are back to hungry ghost in the previous posts!
Originally posted by I No Stupid:You are confusing yourself. I have already said we know why we can't see the sun, and despite not seeing the sun, no one ever says "I believe the sun exists".
You have to describe the 'god' you have in mind. Since you did not but say your god is hungry ghost, then we are back to hungry ghost in the previous posts!
Why cant my god be the hungry ghost ? Anything wrong ? Can my god be pink unicorns hiding on the sky ? Or maybe a cookie monster.
Like i said its a belief. You can always reject it. The same thing with the sun, you have the reason, you believe in it. I may not believe in it. I can always say the cookie monster blocked the sun. Can i ?
Originally posted by TTFU:Why cant my god be the hungry ghost ? Anything wrong ? Can my god be pink unicorns hiding on the sky ? Or maybe a cookie monster.
Like i said its a belief. You can always reject it. The same thing with the sun, you have the reason, you believe in it. I may not believe in it. I can always say the cookie monster blocked the sun. Can i ?
You are confusing yourself even more. Did I say your 'god' cannot be this or that? I ask you to describe your 'god' and you couldn't.
Yes, it is belief. Look up the dictionary meaning.
Also, one can believe what he wants. As a matter of fact, there are all sorts of beliefs. You can believe the monster cookie block the sun. Tell this to a kid and see whether he believes. Kids these days are smarter than you.
Originally posted by I No Stupid:You are confusing yourself even more. Did I say your 'god' cannot be this or that? I ask you to describe your 'god' and you couldn't.
Yes, it is belief. Look up the dictionary meaning.
Also, one can believe what he wants. As a matter of fact, there are all sorts of beliefs. You can believe the monster cookie block the sun. Tell this to a kid and see whether he believes. Kids these days are smarter than you.
You seem to have a issue with hungry ghost. I dont know why. You dont have that belief doesnt mean it dont exist. Same with the sun topic.
Oh yes, i just said its faith. Why are you so eager to win the definition war ?
Of course there will be people having the belief of the hungry ghost. Or believe they exist. You think you are damm smart, while others damm stupid. Its funny actually. People these days really so full of themselves.
Okay so tell me, why is the cookie monster beliefso stupid. Or rather what makes yours the opposite ?
Originally posted by TTFU:You seem to have a issue with hungry ghost. I dont know why. You dont have that belief doesnt mean it dont exist. Same with the sun topic.
Oh yes, i just said its faith. Why are you so eager to win the definition war ?
Of course there will be people having the belief of the hungry ghost. Or believe they exist. You think you are damm smart, while others damm stupid. Its funny actually. People these days really so full of themselves.
Okay so tell me, why is the cookie monster beliefso stupid. Or rather what makes yours the opposite ?
hahaha, the issue is one of curiosity, if that is what you want to know why. I am curious to know whether there are hungry ghosts or just belief. I am also aware of arguments like "if you don't see doesn't mean it does not exist". In the debate on whether god/God exists, many people put this line of argument when challenged that if god/God exists, then EVERYONE should be able to see.
You have not seen a hungry ghost because you cannot even describe it just like those people who have not seen god/God but say look like an old man with beard!
Cookie monster belief is not just stupid (as you said) but very childish that even a kid won't say that it blocks the sun.
Hahaha, you r so childish ... using smart this, stupid that argument won't help you win. Try something more substantial like science, fact, evidence, investigation. Once you said it is belief - you are open to challenge.
I do believe in 7th month.
That is why on the 1st day of the month after 12am, my family offer praying to the 'good brother" and my children burn the joss sticks and stick on the ground. Then put some bread cakes (I am not sure what it is call) along the joss sticks for the 'good brother and good children' to eat.
Originally posted by I No Stupid:hahaha, the issue is one of curiosity, if that is what you want to know why. I am curious to know whether there are hungry ghosts or just belief. I am also aware of arguments like "if you don't see doesn't mean it does not exist". In the debate on whether god/God exists, many people put this line of argument when challenged that if god/God exists, then EVERYONE should be able to see.
You have not seen a hungry ghost because you cannot even describe it just like those people who have not seen god/God but say look like an old man with beard!
Cookie monster belief is not just stupid (as you said) but very childish that even a kid won't say that it blocks the sun.
Hahaha, you r so childish ... using smart this, stupid that argument won't help you win. Try something more substantial like science, fact, evidence, investigation. Once you said it is belief - you are open to challenge.
Substantial like science, fact, evidence, investigation. So those are not childish ? What if tomorrow, the scientist changed their view and said that the cookie monster may exist !!!. Do you suddenly feel that TTFU is a prophet ?
You need to have faith in science, or your beliefs. Science is not always right.
Someone pointed out there are photos, you said it could be doctored. You dont have the faith so to you everything is wrong false incorrect. You dismiss it as chilidish.
I am surprised you used words like childish or stupid to describe people's faith, tells alot about your personality. Have more tolerance towards other people's beliefs.
Originally posted by TTFU:Substantial like science, fact, evidence, investigation. So those are not childish ? What if tomorrow, the scientist changed their view and said that the cookie monster may exist !!!. Do you suddenly feel that TTFU is a prophet ?
You need to have faith in science, or your beliefs. Science is not always right.
Someone pointed out there are photos, you said it could be doctored. You dont have the faith so to you everything is wrong false incorrect. You dismiss it as chilidish.
I am surprised you used words like childish or stupid to describe people's faith, tells alot about your personality. Have more tolerance towards other people's beliefs.
Science is about discoveries and determining or explaining natural phenomena. It has no place in metaphysics. Science is also about challenging established understanding. It is not static; therefore the notion of 'science is not always right' is meaningless. Scientists don't claim they are right without any basis, they seek understanding of the true nature by investigation, test, observation, experiment, gathering data and evidence. They say they are right only by supported evidence. Science is also not faith. Faith doesn’t require establishing truth by logical and systematic technique used in science.
Your belief in monster cookie is just belief. Kids may believe but I don’t. I’ll just put the cookie in a jar and bite the monster whenever I need a bite.
I'm sure scientists believe. They'll insist empirical evidences so that they don't need faith. Some believe in the big bang, others believe... others. Unless proven, all is disputable... Only the intentional objectives differs between disputing parties. At the mean time, I'll be back to lurking...
Originally posted by Leogirldreamer:i have yet to see a hungry ghost but i have seen with my own eyes ghosts captured on CCTV in office.
I know a young lady executive who is born with the “YIN YANG” eyes. She can see ghosts naturally and she can see Celestial being. She is a pretty young lady working as an executive in a MNC. Do you think she will go around telling people what she can see?
During the Ghost month, she can’t go out at night because she can see too many ghosts squatting on the pavement fighting for food and eating the candles. Ghost month is the worst torture month for her and she often have black pandan eyes. Only her mother and some buddhist bro/sis know about her natural gifted “Yin Yang” eyes.
There are many out there with this natural gifted eyes. They just keep silence.
Would there be a way to refund this "gift" without getting blind?
Originally posted by Leogirldreamer:I think they are born with IT, they have to die with IT. It’s a gift that these special group of people can put to good use to help others.
However many just choose to keep quiet.
I've heard it's possible to get rid... if they do intensive blessings or sort of chao du type of thing. My cousin had it until 2-3 years old. They brought her for prayers and then she stopped seeing things.
Originally posted by Aneslayer:I'm sure scientists believe. They'll insist empirical evidences so that they don't need faith. Some believe in the big bang, others believe... others. Unless proven, all is disputable... Only the intentional objectives differs between disputing parties. At the mean time, I'll be back to lurking...
I think your 'believe' is either a theory or hypothesis a scientist postulates. Big bang is a theory and so is evolution that scientists posit rather than believe. Science as a discipline is not faith-based. Science do not reach a conclusion based on faith or a person's belief. However, what an individual scientist as a person wish to believe is a different matter.
Amongst the scientific community, one's theory or hypothesis is subjected to challenge, scrutiny and vigorous questionings. If a scientist goes about and say I believed 'this' or 'that' without any basis, he lend himself to ridicule.
Yeah, there are many people with "ying yang eyes". Incredible tales had shown quite a number of true stories about people having "ying yang eyes". Some of them did not hide their face behind the camera. They went on screen to tell their true stories. These people came from different religions.
Originally posted by I No Stupid:I think your 'believe' is either a theory or hypothesis a scientist postulates. Big bang is a theory and so is evolution that scientists posit rather than believe. Science as a discipline is not faith-based. Science do not reach a conclusion based on faith or a person's belief. However, what an individual scientist as a person wish to believe is a different matter.
Amongst the scientific community, one's theory or hypothesis is subjected to challenge, scrutiny and vigorous questionings. If a scientist goes about and say I believed 'this' or 'that' without any basis, he lend himself to ridicule.
Posit? That is assuming of science... Science shouldn't assume, but according to you, it did. If they did not believe they were right, they wouldn't posit the theory.
I will not correct how you thought of the scientific community now. Base on what you posted, what the scientists left unproven, remain as it is, a theory.
So what are the kind of theories would people believe?
Originally posted by Aneslayer:Posit? That is assuming of science... Science shouldn't assume, but according to you, it did. If they did not believe they were right, they wouldn't posit the theory.
I will not correct how you thought of the scientific community now. Base on what you posted, what the scientists left unproven, remain as it is, a theory.
So what are the kind of theories would people believe?
hahaha, you are no scientist to begin with and you didn't understand a thing of what I posted. Frankly, I don't even know what you are talking or asking.
Hi,
I hate it when my in-laws keep telling me can not do this or that during that 7th month. So, one day, I asked that among all the Chinese virtue, which is the greatest. Of cause it is filial piety (å�).
And I told them the story of 木莲救�. Mu lan's mother did something wrong, and was send to hell. Mu lan went through a lot of trials just to atone for her mother. To cut the story short, and the deity took pity of him, and allow him to meet with his mother. But it will be unfair to just release his mother to earth, so they determine to release all ghosts to earth on that certain month, so as to visit their love ones.
Then I asked my in-laws, if we hide at home, not going out, what will our ancestor think? That we are avoiding them? Is this filial piety?
From that day on, my in-laws never stop my family from doing any activities on 7th month, be it travelling, swimming, or practical anything.
So, as much as those who believe that there is ghost, remember, there is also God. If we put our faith in God, what is there to fear ghost? Reasonable?
Originally posted by Mel.greywolf:Hi,
I hate it when my in-laws keep telling me can not do this or that during that 7th month. So, one day, I asked that among all the Chinese virtue, which is the greatest. Of cause it is filial piety (å�).
And I told them the story of 木莲救�. Mu lan's mother did something wrong, and was send to hell. Mu lan went through a lot of trials just to atone for her mother. To cut the story short, and the deity took pity of him, and allow him to meet with his mother. But it will be unfair to just release his mother to earth, so they determine to release all ghosts to earth on that certain month, so as to visit their love ones.
Then I asked my in-laws, if we hide at home, not going out, what will our ancestor think? That we are avoiding them? Is this filial piety?
From that day on, my in-laws never stop my family from doing any activities on 7th month, be it travelling, swimming, or practical anything.
So, as much as those who believe that there is ghost, remember, there is also God. If we put our faith in God, what is there to fear ghost? Reasonable?
both are beliefs. ghosts and gods/Gods are human construct. I fear neither. I only fear human!
Originally posted by I No Stupid:hahaha, you are no scientist to begin with and you didn't understand a thing of what I posted. Frankly, I don't even know what you are talking or asking.
I don't blame you for not understanding simple questions, or simple English, and just assumed a position for appealing to ridicule. I pity you...
Edit: I'm feeling charitable... I have linked the definition of posit in the word of my previous post, before you quoted it. You have exposed yourself of using a word that you didn't understand. Correct yourself, lest you appear similar to the foreign talents here who boast a degree that they simply bought. Else, get a better education... =D