蓮生活佛修持雙身法的經驗

• Wiser

  8 Jun 11, 12:22

  蓮生活佛自己的「佛法�修證境界，《超�象的飄浮》�98，有一段記載
  「艷女來奔，蕩婦求歡�的故事：
  
  �有一天晚上，我〔蓮生活佛〕在酣甜夢中。
  
  �然覺得四周漸漸的明亮，有一�女�站立在我床�，此女�長挑身�，�蛋
  臉兒，眼�水�一般，修長的眉，唇如�丹，鼻�巧，肌膚略�澤而白皙，是
  很美麗的體態。
  
  唯一的臉上，眉目之間除了嫵媚之外，還兼了�娜風�之氣，舉止略輕浮，花
  柳之姿。
  
  我�：
  
  「何人？何事？�
  
  女�答：
  
  「我曾慧，見你修行証果，天女自來相會。�
  
  我一�是天女，自己�作渾而�露。
  
  這女��笑上床。
  
  「相別幾何？你為何�識我？我是天女曾慧，昔日是你的�者妃�。�
  
  我當然知�，在三界天的欲界天，皆有飲食�淫欲���眠，具足三欲，故號
  欲界天。欲界天的天人娶妻妾，如�人間一樣。
  
  但，天人男女相觸，六欲天雖行淫欲，並沒有�清淨的液體�出，�有風氣
  出，所以�有大樂，沒有其他的煩惱�身心��也。
  
  ……〔無關的部分çœ�略〕
  
  這曾慧天女上了我床，將簪��環�下，床上異香。
  
  ……〔無關的部分çœ�略〕
  
  曾慧天女說：
  
  「我們天趣�戲���
  
  我軟玉溫香抱滿懷。
  
  雲推霧覆的�於床的上空。
  
  曾慧天女欲把舌頭伸入我的�中，我�然�得這舌頭略帶腥味。
  
  �好，這�是天女，而是妖物。我心生警戒�
  
  我推開她。
  
  

• Wiser

  8 Jun 11, 12:24

  她掉�床�，�生生的站立，她衣帶�解，羞�自�，肌略�而玉膩，貌�飾
  而花嬌，�也相當動人。】
  
  蓮生活佛雖然主張：「出家人修單身�就，在家居士，�以�自己的妻�修雙
  身�就。�但是他也�為：「六欲天雖行淫欲，並沒有�清淨的液體�出，�
  有風氣出，所以�有大樂，沒有其他的煩惱�身心��也�，因此女鬼�稱天
  女， 欲與之「天趣�戲�時，他並沒有拒絕，還讓她上床，彼此抱���
  �，如果她真的是天女，�用說，這個「天趣�戲�會繼續完�。按照這個�
  輯，人間若有女�，具備天女身� 空行�身的�件（譬如修�二�已�堪能
  的女弟�），蓮生活佛身為�密上師，與之實修雙身法，應該也是許�的，也
  是他所樂修的。
  
  二○○○年�二月�三日，世界真佛宗宗務委員會發表嚴正�明：�近日媒體所
  稱之「�體祈��之�詞，於蓮生活佛所著一百四�餘冊的著作中無由查知，
  若其所指者為密教中的「雙身雙��梗瑒t於其著作�開示中，更已明白宣示
  「真佛宗�止修習雙身雙��埂?由是�實之污衊，已�攻自破矣�】（刊於
  「真佛資訊網�http://www.tbsn.org/chinese2/news.php?
  id=27&keyword=&page=140）其中說到：「真佛宗�止修習雙身雙�?
  /span>�，這顯然與事實�符，蓮生活佛其實是主張：�出家人修單身�
  就， 在家居士，�以�自己的妻�修雙身�就。】（《密教奧義書》�
  193），所以真佛宗並�是�止修習雙身雙�ǖ模患�故�@樣��於宗喀巴的
  �縮的�定，許多人（包括宗喀巴和蓮生活佛）�然以�種�巧的�目� 似
  是而�的說詞（包括「金剛阿�黎�頂之正行��「天趣�戲��「交�而�
  出精��「�三昧耶��「別解脫戒�等等），予以��；使�止修習雙身法
  的�定，�為虛文。
  
  按照多數�密祖師的主張，金剛阿�黎�頂至少必須有一個二�歲以下的實體
  明妃，由上師臨床指導實修技巧，先與該�明妃�時�到性高潮，�得男女雙
  方混�後的淫液，注入弟��中，方屬如法的�頂，�由��的弟�與該�明
  妃實修雙身法。如果按照宗喀巴於《密宗�次第廣論》所定的�矩，一次金剛
  阿�黎�頂，�頂的上師和接��頂的準上師，都必須和�個明妃共��修雙
  身法；�照宗喀巴�定的這種實修雙身法，師徒之中若有出家人，必定破毀出
  家戒中的�戒��薩戒中的�戒；�使是在家人，也一樣是邪淫戒中的�戒，
  都屬於極嚴�的地�業。
  
  真佛宗早期曾有一�上師，與多�女�修習雙身法，被解除上師資格（�見
  《真佛夢中夢》〈蓮�的�謬怪誕〉，引自「真佛資訊網�）。�有一�有�
  �的女性上師（姑隱其�），與蓮生活佛共�出席真佛宗分堂的活動時，有一
  �女學員詢�有關雙身法的覺��題，她�請教蓮生活佛，�指�由女上師答
  覆。這�女上師以親證的��答�： 「如果是真正的�就者，絕�會給你全
  然��的覺��（大�如此，文字�能略有出入），�答的雙方，顯然都有修
  �雙身法的經驗；訪�紀錄刊於《真佛報》，時間大約是一��八年�後，我
  沒有留下那份報紙，但應該有很多師兄弟都注�到了。
  
  真佛宗師徒，修習雙身法，有文字記載的，當然�是冰山一角；其他未公開
  者，�怕數��於已公開者。為什麼會這樣呢？因為�密上師�活佛，包括蓮
  生活佛在內，都一�的強調雙身法是極為殊�的大法，尤其是二�寶瓶氣的修
  練，�以說完全是為三�的雙身法在�準備的，一旦寶瓶氣�到「堪能�控制
  精液��時，接下來當然就�實修雙身法，以便�身「�佛�了。所以真佛宗
  表�上�止修習雙身法，顯然�是掩人耳目的說詞（《密教奧義書》�33：
  � 「雙身雙��怪�堋该苄�梗�豢晒_�】）真佛宗的根本上師──蓮生活
  佛本身──�是雙身修法的奉行者，所以蓮生活佛�去出��幾椿性醜�的事
  件，未來也將無法��會有性醜�的事件繼續發生；因為以往�知�的真佛宗
  信徒�家屬，後來知�雙身法的邪謬時，蓮生活佛�使�能付出信徒心中�設
  的代價而壓�下來時，事件就會一�的爆發出來；�使蓮生活佛未來「�然�
  繼續爆發出性醜�時，我們將�會覺得�外，因為他的究竟法�然是雙身法的
  樂空雙咭鶚肪辰纾@是他無法��的。在這個情�下，難�有些上師，乃至
  真佛宗行者，會��摸摸的仿效，這個真相，�於真佛宗而言，當然是�於明
  言的。
  
  雙身法並�佛法
  

• Wiser

  8 Jun 11, 12:26

   

   

  http://shcstory.com/web_article11.html

• 2009novice

  8 Jun 11, 22:18

  pardon me... i felt i am reading some kind of erotic novel

  like the fusion of sperm and vaginal fluid and taken orally... this isn't some kind of esoteric buddhism right?

• Dawnfirstlight

  8 Jun 11, 23:28

  Originally posted by 2009novice:

  pardon me... i felt i am reading some kind of erotic novel

  like the fusion of sperm and vaginal fluid and taken orally... this isn't some kind of esoteric buddhism right?

  
  This is just ridiculous. How can they link this kind of practice to Buddhism? Buddhism emphasize no sexual misconduct. This is so erotic.  It should be linked to  act of the devils.

• Wiser

  9 Jun 11, 12:21

  This is the type of man who self-proclaimed himself as Living Buddha who is misleading many down to hell (including his masters/monks/nuns and disciples).

  Self proclaimed as Lu Sheng Yen is not recognised by the Dalai Lama nor the 17th karmapa nor any Rinpoches from the Tantric Sect. He doesn't possess all the 4 tantric lineages that he claimed he has.

  He even wrote a whole book on Consort ( how to choose the consort). 

  Strangely, some females would love to be the Consort of "Living Buddha", just like some women who would love to sleep with their football idol, celebrity idol etc.

  Especially taiwanese, they have an open mind towards Sex and since they could co-habit freely, they simply love to be the special Consort for any " Living Buddha" in that sense.

  But for some other females, they didn't know better and become the unwilling cheated Consort.  Like the Sarawak SHC website victim.  

   

• Wiser

  9 Jun 11, 12:23

  如果按照宗喀巴於《密宗�次第廣論》所定的�矩，一次金剛
  阿�黎�頂，�頂的上師和接��頂的準上師，都必須和�個明妃共��修雙身法；

  For the whole paragraph,i will keep my reservation about it until i read the book and find out is it the truth, is this what 宗喀巴 taught . Or the writer had mis-understood the teachings.

  I remembered attending talks on this sutra and there is no mention of consort in it.

   

   

• Wiser

  9 Jun 11, 15:46

  Now a temple of True Buddha School at Sims Ave is trying to raise 3.5million this year and thereafter to raise 7millions to tear down their present temple and rebuild a grander, bigger and full of gold shinning ornaments temple.

  A total of 1.5 billion donation they are seeking.  The asset will still be under True Buddha School. under Lu Sheng Yen.  Your money become theirs asset.

  So far this is the most expensive fund raising temple i heard of.  Do they really need so many millions ?

  True Buddha School is only focus on expanding their assets (temples/chapters). More and bigger.

  Your donation become their asset expansion.  Yet they do not help others nor do they teach others with a proper lineage. They cheat, they lie and they want your money.

• 2009novice

  9 Jun 11, 22:10

  Is it this one...?

  I don know how Lu looks like

  Googled his pic

  

   

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Buddha_School

  In the wiki link, there are also other references to read. Shocking (old) news inside too lol

• Wiser

  10 Jun 11, 12:30

  Yes that is Lu Sheng Yen. 

  There are more shocking true stories beside what is being sued in court. It's a school that exploits innocence of their money , time and sincerity to practise Buddhism.  Their efforts are in vain when the self proclaimed Living buddha even lied about the fundamental lineages issues.

  I feel very sorry for these TBS followers.

   

   

   

• Almond Cookies

  10 Jun 11, 15:04

  Originally posted by Wiser:

  Yes that is Lu Sheng Yen. 

  There are more shocking true stories beside what is being sued in court. It's a school that exploits innocence of their money , time and sincerity to practise Buddhism.  Their efforts are in vain when the self proclaimed Living buddha even lied about the fundamental lineages issues.

  I feel very sorry for these TBS followers.

   

   

   

  
  Freedom to practise whatever religion is basic human rights.

  The TBS followers are free to follow their religion as long It's recognised by Singapore Government and not banned.

   

• An Eternal Now

  10 Jun 11, 19:34

  Choose the right religion and don't end up in hell.

• Wiser

  10 Jun 11, 20:41

  Our Government also never ban Fa Long Gong.  Almond Cookie you want to spend your time and money learning the weird teachings of Fa Long Gong ?

• Almond Cookies

  10 Jun 11, 20:51

  Originally posted by Wiser:

  Our Government also never ban Fa Long Gong.  Almond Cookie you want to spend your time and money learning the weird teachings of Fa Long Gong ?

  
  Every human being got free will to chose their religion.

  Cos Singapore multi racial and religious. Better not critisize other religions.

   

• Almond Cookies

  10 Jun 11, 20:53

  Originally posted by Wiser:

  Our Government also never ban Fa Long Gong.  Almond Cookie you want to spend your time and money learning the weird teachings of Fa Long Gong ?

  
  I have to say I am not true buddha school or fa lun gong member.

• Wiser

  10 Jun 11, 20:58

  This is not critizing when i am a buddhist myself and wish to point out the ugly truth of a cultish Buddhist organisation.

  Many people were mislead into True Buddha School due to lack of information and associating it with Buddhism when it is not.

• 2009novice

  10 Jun 11, 23:34

  Originally posted by Almond Cookies:

  
  Freedom to practise whatever religion is basic human rights.

  The TBS followers are free to follow their religion as long It's recognised by Singapore Government and not banned.

  As long as it is in line with the Noble Eightfold path....

  But what if it is not in tandem with the Eightfold Path? Do you have the courage to tell your friends that they are going the wrong way?

• An Eternal Now

  11 Jun 11, 02:56

  IMO it is ok to criticize another cult or religion as long as you don't go overboard like spoiling your relationship with others due to differences. If conflicts cannot be resolved, then both parties must agree to disagree.

• Dawnfirstlight

  11 Jun 11, 08:34

  I guess no Buddhists bother to put in effort to criticize them if they don't claim any linkage to Buddhism.

• Wiser

  11 Jun 11, 23:07

  Beginners in Buddhism don't know that. Especially when TBS post that they have the 4 tantric lineages on their offical website and Lu Sheng Yen always emphasize that he has the four lineages in his speech.

   

• Wiser

  11 Jun 11, 23:13

  Beginners ,  aunties , uncles, young children are ignorant about lineages. They look at the monks/nuns in TBS and they thought this is Buddhism.

  By the time they learn more (if they bother to read) , it's a bit late for them to change their mindset that they have been following a cult. It's a real shocker.

  Then it is a hard choice to let go of what they have believed and accepted from the start or to stick with it.

  Many people find it hard to let go when they are not very serious about enlightenment. As long as they think they pray , their prayers are answered, it is good enough for them.  These are those seeking worldly wishes.

  For those seeking enlightenment or good reborn, it can be very heart breaking to have to let go a Guru that they have wholeheartedly accepted in their daily dharma practise.

  So the best solution to less ignorant and sufferers is to let them have the sufficient information about this school to make the right choice from the start.