Originally posted by Rooney_07:any religion who preaches y ou are going to hell if you dun accept someone as saviour, this really says much about the religion isnt it. I dun see any wisdom emanating this sort of message to people. frankly speaking where the wisdom in doing so, where you end up people feeling angry and indignant about the religion you are trying to preach.
+1.
These people should care more about the current life then the afterlife also.
It's machiam the real world nothing for them to do.
Hahahaha.
Sorry I cant stop laughing.
"Christianity has good news to offer"
Let me pretend I care.
There is no need for me to pretend, simply cause I don't.
Only for those with a reasonable level of IQ. Does really a power with body who created all the universe is going to send a part of creation to helll(eternal fire as per Xtians) because he did not dip into some water as baptism?
I still cant believe in this day and age, still got people blindly believe this kind of dope, where science can explain to layman in literature, the bible is unable to for the past 2 millenniums.
what good news lol.does it dawn on you that what if there is no god. ok some say they rather believe in it as they have nothing to lose, is like an insurance thingy to me. you believe in it just in case there is a god. well anyway I have no problem you believe in this dope, but just make sure you do not become an extremist or fundamentalist and start going around proselytizing to non believers you are going to hell. anway my stand is this, it says much about the religion when you have to resort this way to recruit people.
Originally posted by BroInChrist:Which part of your reasonable IQ has read the Bible and then concluded that it teaches that failure to be baptised in water means a fiery hell waits? One example is enough to refute you. The thief who was crucified beside Jesus believed and was promised Paradise that very day.
there there there.....even a criminal can ascend to heaven, no wonder heaven is a place of criminals. I will not be surprised if there are people like hitler and hardcore criminals in heaven. doesnt it dawn on you that, what makes you think the criminal would not create havoc in heaven? do you think he will be reformed? oh god will reboot his system and convert him from criminal to an angel once he is in heaven
Originally posted by BroInChrist:Christianity has good news to offer you mock it as MLM. BTW it is not as though MLM is illegal ok? Anyway, what has atheism got to offer in this life or the next? This current life we live last at most 70 years or more, provided you don’t die young. But the life to come after death lasts for eternity, whether in heaven or in hell. Shouldn’t it be sensible to take care of that even more?
so you only care for being in heaven for eternity when you die more than anything else. you are just like buying insurance just in case. I am not sure if this is more than wishful thinking on your part, because it just doesnt make sense since xtianity doesnt believe in rebirth or reincarnation, just one of the many paradox.
when you die, this should be it, no more reborn in heaven or hell for eternity isnt it. this is clearly a big loop hole you are unable to think for yourself.
Originally posted by BroInChrist:Laughing is neither an argument or a refutation of anything.
no it means more than that
no need to talk so much lah.........................
those crazy guys with schizophrenia are best proof that people got no permanent souls....................
meaning all religions are bogus..................
Originally posted by motoway:+1.
These people should care more about the current life then the afterlife also.
It's machiam the real world nothing for them to do.
hey wait a sec, did you say afterlife? thought xtians doesnt believe in rebirth, reincarnation, so whence afterlife? this should be the last life/birth isnt it. when they die, no more afterlife already. this should be it. see this obvious loophole or flaw?
I am sure God does not want christians to use MLM to win souls for him.
In the bible there is no mention of winning souls by MLM.
Originally posted by BroInChrist:Which part of your reasonable IQ has read the Bible and then concluded that it teaches that failure to be baptised in water means a fiery hell waits? One example is enough to refute you. The thief who was crucified beside Jesus believed and was promised Paradise that very day.
BroInChrist
Some christians quote the bible to justify that baptism is required for salvation.
Some christians quote the bible to justfy that baptism isn't required for salvation.
Seriously tell me. Why are christians always arguing about such things?
Originally posted by motoway:Hahahaha.
Sorry I cant stop laughing.
"Christianity has good news to offer"
LOL. Makes me laugh too, at times.
Originally posted by alize:Do you believe God is kind enough to spare you from hell if not Christian?
He should, if He is really God....
Originally posted by BroInChrist:1. The idea that the universe is eternal (a metaphysical claim, not a scientific one) has already been debunked by what science has known in the last century. It is no longer a possibility at all. And I thought you were boasting about being scuentific?
2. You asked why if there is a Creator it must be the Christian God and not others. Why don’t you argue and defend that case if you think it so? Why should it be narrow minded to believe in one God? You are an atheist who believe in NO God at all. Why doesn’t that make you even more narrow minded, if not closed minded?
3. Yes the Bible called bats as birds since it does not use modern scientific terms like mammals. It is a catch all term to designate the flying animals. So why are you imposing modern terminology and scientific precision terms on the Bible? It is as silly as saying that the Bible is wrong because the word dinosaur is not found there but this term was only invented in 1841!
1. I didnt say the universe is eternal. It could be destroyed one day. But my point was - Just because we dont know doest mean we have to be lazy and ascribe it to some creator.
2. Yes I dont believe in any gods. But I am challenging your narrow beliefs in one god. You claim your ONLY your god exists. So I am asking you why not the other gods? Your only so-called evidence is your scriptures. Well, any religion can also use their scriptures to prove their gods! NO DIFFERENCE!
3. Oh so you mean your god didnt know of the word "mammals" 4000 years ago? Couldnt he have "inspired" the writer to write mammals? I doubt hes allknowing then. Seems like he also didnt know that the mustard seed isnt the smallest seed
Originally posted by Rooney_07:there there there.....even a criminal can ascend to heaven, no wonder heaven is a place of criminals. I will not be surprised if there are people like hitler and hardcore criminals in heaven. doesnt it dawn on you that, what makes you think the criminal would not create havoc in heaven? do you think he will be reformed? oh god will reboot his system and convert him from criminal to an angel once he is in heaven
:)
I have a question:
What happened to Jesus Christ in his "missing years" ?