Is God is kind enough to spare U from hell if not Christian?
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Originally posted by BanguIzai:
One does not need to encourage another in a so call "way" before one need to discourage another away from another so call "way". And one does not need affirmation from another to do so before he engages in the encouragement or discouragement for others from or away from any so call "way".
You have your right to do what you want, don't need any affirmation from anybody. so what are you encouraging or discouraging? suggest you don't talk about Hinduism, the Hindi may not like it.
you are getting belly belly chim leh...
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
the word "santanic" came in your statement. People can talk about heaven and hell, if you don't believe then there is nothing true or false about something that doesn't exist. if God and Satan don't exist then why are things satanic?
But to the Buddhists who believe in karma, they will continue to encourge people to do good. To the Christians who believe in heaven and hell, they will continue to encourage people to accept the way to heaven and not hell.
if god doesnt exists, how can satan be real? dun christians believed that all other religions are false and satanic? quite ironic when it itself is more false than right.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
if god doesnt exists, how can satan be real? dun christians believed that all other religions are false and satanic? quite ironic when it itself is more false than right.
Indeed, if God doesn't exist, then satan isn't real. Christians believe that God is the creator of the universe, and there is only One God. If Christians believe also in other religions then they are not Christians.
Christians believe that God the creator is real, so they are Christians, and many like you don't believe that there is a God, that is why you are not a Christian.
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
Indeed, if God doesn't exist, then satan isn't real. Christians believe that God is the creator of the universe, and there is only One God. If Christians believe also in other religions then they are not Christians.
Christians believe that God the creator is real, so they are Christians, and many like you don't believe that there is a God, that is why you are not a Christian.
we have no problem with christian's beliefs. what really irked us is their arrogance, bigotry and narrow mindedness insistence that their religion is true and all others are false and satanic
I wonder who is true and real, what an irony.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
we have no problem with christian's beliefs. what really irked us is their arrogance, bigotry and narrow mindedness insistence that their religion is true and all others are false and satanic
I wonder who is true and real, what an irony.
The Bible never teaches people about arrogance, bigotry and narrow mindednessness, and such are not the virtue nor values preached in Christianity.
Sorry, if some Christians behave as such.
There are greater things, good things taught in the Bible.
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
The Bible never teaches people about arrogance, bigotry and narrow mindednessness, and such are not the virtue nor values preached in Christianity.
Sorry, if some Christians behave as such.
There are greater things, good things taught in the Bible.
use common sense pls. if the bible didnt wrote this, christians will go around expounding this to other people? give me a break
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:
The Bible never teaches people about arrogance, bigotry and narrow mindednessness, and such are not the virtue nor values preached in Christianity.
Sorry, if some Christians behave as such.
There are greater things, good things taught in the Bible.
yes..................bible teach good things................
like how God almost killed Moses becoz he never circumcise..............
so follow bible...................must potong...................
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
use common sense pls. if the bible didnt wrote this, christians will go around expounding this to other people? give me a break
you read the Bible and know what was being taught? Some christians misinterprete the Bible, some christians use the Bible and put themselves on high moral ground, some christians think they are sent from God,...
it is your choice in what you believe..from what I see you are no different from them....
they misinterpret the Bible, you don't read the Bible, and both act like you know the Bible.
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Every religion is the same, all religion believe a kind hearted person will go heaven.
It is only the human that make a religion ugly.
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I think there are some big hints in Genesis 1:1-29:
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
6 And God said, “Let there be a vault of waters to separate land from land, and land from heaven.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the land of the left from the land of the right. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sea” and "ocean". And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.
9 And God said, “Let the land teem with creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that please God, and the many wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 10 And God saw that it was good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.
11 And God said unto the Godless wild creatures of strange tongues, “Suffer your brothers go where they want to go, lest my fleet cross the oceans into your seas as I did on the first day. Though you hold my credit, I am God, and bid your creatures of the land, sea and air read the last chapter of my book before I say unto your land "Let there be a bright light!"
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if earth was formless..........................mana got water for god to hover over ?
and if god can create anything at all......................mana need to hover over anything ?
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"Not by shedding innocent blood, but by living a righteous life shall ye find the peace of God. ..
"Blessed are they who keep this law; for God is manifested in all creatures. All
creatures live in God, and God is hid in them ...Jesus bids to be considerate of all creatures "Be ye therefore considerate, be tender, be pitiful, are to them as gods, to whom they look in their needs."
"I require mercy, not sacrifice" (Matthew 9:13 & 12:7)
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
if god doesnt exists, how can satan be real? dun christians believed that all other religions are false and satanic? quite ironic when it itself is more false than right.
Purely, this is two sides of one coin that transforming God into satanic version."Blessed are they who keep this law; for God is manifested in all creatures. All
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Originally posted by Susanteo2011:
if earth was formless..........................mana got water for god to hover over ?
and if god can create anything at all......................mana need to hover over anything ?
What is formless to you? formless means no water for god to hover?
If a policeman is armed with a pistol, does he needs to open fire at every criminal?
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Originally posted by Twincat:
What is formless to you? formless means no water for god to hover?
If a policeman is armed with a pistol, does he needs to open fire at every criminal?
what talking you ?
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Originally posted by Susanteo2011:
what talking you ?
he is probably speaking in parables.
haha...
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Originally posted by Susanteo2011:
what talking you ?
you say "if earth was formless..........................mana got water for god to hover over ?"
so i ask you what is formless earth to you? Your definition of formless earth?
you say " and if god can create anything at all......................mana need to hover over anything ?"
I see it the same as a policeman, He too have a choice to hover or not over anything or nothing.
and there is a misconception. god can not create everything.
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God God got got God God
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FIRST of all, you must specify which god, because there are many gods and not just one.
Christian God - Some christians believe nonbelievers can go heaven. Some christians believe only christians can go heaven.
Muslim God - Muslims generally believe that good Jews, Christians and Muslims (and some non-Abrahamic religious people) can go heaven
Hindu God - Based on good works and praying to the Hindu Gods
Jewish God *Yahweh - There is no heaven or hell in Judaism
Buddhism - Depending on the sect, some Buddhists do believe in reincarnation, heaven and hell for ALL humans but some Buddhists do not believe in these places.
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the jewish, muslims and christians have the same god.
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God's love all creatures as the creator of all that apparently, to feel God and be God, first foremostly journey is - Vegetarian food leaves a deep impression on our nature. If the whole world adopts vegetarianism, it can change the destiny of humankind. -Albert Einstein (1879–1955)
Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet. A human being is a part of the whole, called by us the "Universe," a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings, as something separate from the rest – a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty. Nobody is able to achieve this completely, but the striving for such achievement is in itself a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security.
—Albert Einstein (1879–1955) -
dragg
Some christians believe that jews. muslims and christians believe in the same god. But some christians believe that all 3 believe in 3 different gods.
I would say that jews, muslims and christians believe in 3 different gods. I will explain below --
Jews - One god named yhwh.
Muslims - One god named allah. Muslims also believe jesus was just a man.
Christians - One god, the trinity three in one. Christians believe jesus was/is god.
So if you see carefull, jews, muslims and christians believe in 3 very different gods. Cheers.
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
dragg
Some christians believe that jews. muslims and christians believe in the same god. But some christians believe that all 3 believe in 3 different gods.
As an atheist, I would say that jews, muslims and christians believe in 3 different gods. I will explain below --
Jews - One god named yhwh. Yhwh favoured jews in the torah.
Muslims - One god named allah. Allah favoured muslims in the quran. Muslims also believe jesus was just a man.
Christians - One god, the trinity three in one. Christians believe jesus was/is god.
So if you see carefull, jews, muslims and christians believe in 3 very different gods. Cheers.
its not about what you think or what people say.
the 3 religions are related and they believe in the same god.
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dragg,
Yes they are related, but the 3 religions believe in 3 very different concepts of god.
Let's just compare the christians and muslims. Christians believe jesus is god whereas muslims do not believe jesus is god.
This alone is already very clear to show that christians and muslims believe in 2 different gods.
Are you telling me that jesus, whos is the god of christians is also the god of muslims too?
You are theoratically wrong, my friend.
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
dragg,
Yes they are related, but the 3 religions believe in 3 very different concepts of god.
Let's just compare the christians and muslims. Christians believe jesus is god whereas muslims do not believe jesus is god.
This alone is already very clear to show that christians and muslims believe in 2 different gods.
Are you telling me that jesus, whos is the god of christians is also the god of muslims too?
You are theoratically wrong, my friend.
jesus is just part of the trinity in christianity. to islam he is just a prophet.
their god is the same. just different names. god is just a noun used to call god. so god, yehweh, allah, jehovah jireh are all just names to address god.
its just like 3 people wants to go to jurong. one takes train. one takes bus. one drives there. in the end the destination is the same.