Woes, Leaving Singapore
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Since young, I had the burning desire to live and work overseas. I went to US (Wisconsin) pursuing a degree right after my '0' Levels, but due to NS duties, I had to return after a few years.
I loved USA, the exciting lifestyle and culture, as well as the lovely weather (even the winters with an average of -30 degrees). Also as a Singaporean Chinese, I am rarely a victim of racial remarks.
Now that i'm 32, NS is no longer a liability for me, yet I'm tied down by other commitments. I am also getting married next year and we bought a new condominium slated to complete by mid 2015. Of course, it was a huge decision...but I am quite regretful now.
Do I really have to give up my dreams of leaving Singapore?
I have considered the options of migrating to NZ but with an average income tax of 20-30%, lack of CPF, and higher living expenses (in terms of commodities like cigarettes, food etc.), it becomes apparent that I cannot fund the housing in SG unless I make like SGD$10,000 a month. I am no doctor or lawyer, currently just a humble marketing professional in middle management. My savings are also depleted, with about $100K left for my marriage, car and renovation expenses.
I have seriously thought about my options:
i.) Forgo the stamp duty and deposit paid upfront for the house (around $150K), and incur more expenses as the bank loan is already in effect. Too extreme I guess?
ii.) Find an good paying expat job that sends me and my wife abroad, to UK or US? Hmm..I was never a "lucky" person.
So...I believe many Singaporeans are facing similar dilemmas. Any useful advice would be great! Thanks. -
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long time no see ash online wor... even longer no see ash...
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I will not leave my country. I think its a form of betrayal. Even if I have to go to war for my country and die, I will do it.
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Originally posted by Ihatemen:
I will not leave my country. I think its a form of betrayal. Even if I have to go to war for my country and die, I will do it.
Your resolve and dedication in protecting the country will be greatly appreciated by the FTs.
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Hi Acid...haha didn't know still got people remember me. Anyway, thanks for your advice.
I don't think leaving the country is a form of betrayal. What more can we ask from life, than to be happy? Maybe I'm not easily contended, but I feel suffocated living in Singapore.
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Originally posted by Ihatemen:
I will not leave my country. I think its a form of betrayal. Even if I have to go to war for my country and die, I will do it.
if u dun contribute to big MNC making billions for spore then u are like not doing anything for spore and merely waiting to meet yer makers.u do not need to be in spore to take part in a war.when war comes to spore,u can go to nearest singapore army bases overseas and get your arms and number 4 ready to aTTACK THE ENEMY FROM OUTSIDE SINGAPORE.no big deal.like its so hard for yiu to knock on spore overseas bases.
So u see those in and outa singapore are not betrayers of spore,rather those that claim being in spore and them being superior are the true betrayers of ny battle strategy.
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Originally posted by Meia Gisborn:
Your resolve and dedication in protecting the country will be greatly appreciated by the FTs.
ihatemen cant go anywhere else cept spore so i suppose he/she should be angry with those already overseas.its a human psychology thing where jealousy meets anger ,poverty and lack of initiatives. -
Originally posted by Ihatemen:
I will not leave my country. I think its a form of betrayal. Even if I have to go to war for my country and die, I will do it.
goto war?die?u mean your existence now in spore is so cham until its like going to war and dying right now?what u need is more good food.KFC is the best!
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UK have already shut their doors. USA unemployment is still high, 14.5mil people out of work. NZ would probably be the place but they likely put your application in WIP. A friend of mine applied and still waiting after 2 years.
Guess you have to make do with what you got unless you got that opportunity to work overseas.
There are a lot of opportunities, undevelop places like laos, thailand, cambodia, china, indonesia and vietnam that you can still go abroad and earn better salary than the average singaporean. Question is, are you willing to live in such tough circumstances?
Or you can come over to malaysia to work too.
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Originally posted by Army 21:
if u dun contribute to big MNC making billions for spore then u are like not doing anything for spore and merely waiting to meet yer makers.u do not need to be in spore to take part in a war.when war comes to spore,u can go to nearest singapore army bases overseas and get your arms and number 4 ready to aTTACK THE ENEMY FROM OUTSIDE SINGAPORE.no big deal.like its so hard for yiu to knock on spore overseas bases.
So u see those in and outa singapore are not betrayers of spore,rather those that claim being in spore and them being superior are the true betrayers of ny battle strategy.
生在ç¦�ä¸,ä¸�知ç¦�. i think dying to protect the country is a honorable death regardless of race, languages or oranges.
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Originally posted by FireIce:
(1) if you go after you want, you may not always get it.(2) if you do not ask, you will never know the answer, it can be yess or no.
(3) its true that if you donot step forward you will always be on the same spot. but before changing your spot consider will it be for the better or worse should the change be in effect?
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Originally posted by Ihatemen:
生在ç¦�ä¸,ä¸�知ç¦�. i think dying to protect the country is a honorable death regardless of race, languages or oranges.
u mean life in spore so bad until u think of dying?dun they have casinos ,aircon malls seafood etc???
dying to protect country is unavoidable...everyone has to do it when time comes be it overseas or in spore.question is will the pm or generals in charge screw it all up until u cant reach camp...dont have a weapon to fight with...no ammo...no rocket launchers ..no rations.....are they prepared as we speak now?are u certain they are prepared for u to die even in battle or will u end up dying from enemy artillery???u could very well be captured without a single round of ammo...no uniform and no means to fight a war.currently from looks of it they are not prepared to me.
as for dying in battle.....do u always die when u play call of duty computer games?if so i suggest u pick up a pc version of call of duty and start killing and mowing enemy soldiers instead of dying in a battle.its a good change for starters......just a thought.medals man!!gimme the medals!!!!
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Originally posted by asharae:
Since young, I had the burning desire to live and work overseas. I went to US (Wisconsin) pursuing a degree right after my '0' Levels, but due to NS duties, I had to return after a few years.
I loved USA, the exciting lifestyle and culture, as well as the lovely weather (even the winters with an average of -30 degrees). Also as a Singaporean Chinese, I am rarely a victim of racial remarks.
Now that i'm 32, NS is no longer a liability for me, yet I'm tied down by other commitments. I am also getting married next year and we bought a new condominium slated to complete by mid 2015. Of course, it was a huge decision...but I am quite regretful now.
Do I really have to give up my dreams of leaving Singapore?
I have considered the options of migrating to NZ but with an average income tax of 20-30%, lack of CPF, and higher living expenses (in terms of commodities like cigarettes, food etc.), it becomes apparent that I cannot fund the housing in SG unless I make like SGD$10,000 a month. I am no doctor or lawyer, currently just a humble marketing professional in middle management. My savings are also depleted, with about $100K left for my marriage, car and renovation expenses.
I have seriously thought about my options:
i.) Forgo the stamp duty and deposit paid upfront for the house (around $150K), and incur more expenses as the bank loan is already in effect. Too extreme I guess?
ii.) Find an good paying expat job that sends me and my wife abroad, to UK or US? Hmm..I was never a "lucky" person.
So...I believe many Singaporeans are facing similar dilemmas. Any useful advice would be great! Thanks.
USA is not a nice place.....Mitt is not a good president -
Go pursue your dream, Singapore aint bad, I am from taiwanese, migrated here since young, but still have Taiwanese passport.
All I can said in my young age is, Uncle, do whatever you think is legal and right, for you only know yourself well, however, before doing anything, alway leave a back door for yourself, there lots of risk takers, the smart ones curved a back door for themselves, the goons alway end up hitting the walls head on.
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And that is also why I still hold on my taiwan passport, just in case Singapore goes berserk or bonkers, at least I can swim to malaysia and take a flight back to my nunnery.
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If u want to walk out now...walk out before the marriage...once u get married...G_G
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The concept is alway wrong that once you get married, you hardly can do much, today, divorce lawyers are the rise, you can alway seek them with a 2 to 3k fees, and everything is settle, infact marriage is more difficult then divorce. Some couples get married, bought a house, unoffical divorce for 5 years, sleeping at different room, rent out one more to others, after 5 years, sell, make money , split and spend 2 k on divorce fees, both wins.
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Originally posted by angel7030:
And that is also why I still hold on my taiwan passport, just in case Singapore goes berserk or bonkers, at least I can swim to malaysia and take a flight back to my nunnery.
Taiwan is very dangerous, China is going to invade her. -
Singapore also dangerous, alot of siao lang
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Originally posted by angel7030:
Singapore also dangerous, alot of siao lang
yeah, everywhere is dangerous, you hide anything. -
Ya, got, money and gold, at my Joo chiat house garden, below the papaya tree.
I also got a canoe kept at ECP sailing club, my car booth got all the emergency stuffs alway ready, anything wrong, just whack up to ECP, takes the canoe and row to batam or bintan..
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So much tears, so much anger, so much feelings.....
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2 chio bu, just relax and have a cup of coffee, then go fall in love
thing will get better and happier
oops didnt mean to hijack the thread
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juz stay put lah.
i will fulfil ur dream for u.