Why did they vote BG Yeo out?
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Why must some people be like that one? Why is it they must vote BG Yeo out? BG Yeo is a god guy and a good MP, yet he kenna voted out. Likewise, his team members like Lim Hwee Hua and Zaniel Abidin are also good MPs. In contrast, they voted in an opposition that broached about a non existent First World Parliament and talked about slapping the driver.
I think if they had voted someone else out, then okay lah, but BG Yeo is too good a person. Why him?
The problem now is they voted a good man and his good team out and voted in an opposition that talked about something that don't exist and slapping the driver.
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Saya also really scared if they one day form the new government. Can they do it? Singapore political situation is delicated and not easy to handle. We are a truly multi racial country and we need to take into consideration the needs and interest of all races.
In the end, having a new opposition government may not be good news. Just like Taiwan Chen Shui Bian and Lee Teng Hui, look what happened when they form the new government? Also don't forget in the mid 80s to the mid 90s, Taiwan was once one of the four tigers of Asia. Now look what happened now?
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Ok leh.
Give me Show Mao anytime.
BG Yeo suay suayly is the sacrificial item.
I am sure everyone will choose Yeo over TPL. But too bad WP contest in his ward.
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dp
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what happened?
taiwan are still as strong as ever.
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why did the PAP not take out G Yeo when they knew WP was fielding in strong team. If they had taken out G Yeo and his gang, replaced with Raymund Lim, Mah PT, Wong KS, then G Yeo would still be in the parliament. That would be a Win Win situation.
when you ask why, you must know who are you asking.
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because he lived by the sword.. bringing useless deadweight MPs into parliament... he died by the sword, the useless deadweight MPs drowned him in the face of credible and capable opponents...
frankly, he deserved it...
if he was such a good man, he would not have acceded to the bullshit which the MIW came up with called the GRC..
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dragg, you sure or not? When Chen Shui Bian was President, he siphoned how much money from Taiwan. He also went against China. This caused a severe backlash to the Taiwanese economy. Just overnight, Taiwan was no longer like Hong Kong, S Korea or Singapore. Whereas Hong Kong, S Korea and Singapore contiune to boom, Taiwan stagnated. Now President Ma is trying his best to revive Taiwanese economy. Taiwan, as we knoiw it today, is no longer economically like what it was in the late 80s and early 90s.
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Sometimes I prefer to choose strong economic growth, good standard of living and a peaceful and harmonious life than just democracy and human rights. This is especially when we live in a multi racial country and we must be sensitive to the beliefs and lifestyles of the other races.
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Originally posted by askandanswer:
Sometimes I prefer to choose strong economic growth, good standard of living and a peaceful and harmonious life than just democracy and human rights. This is especially when we live in a multi racial country and we must be sensitive to the beliefs and lifestyles of the other races.
He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.
that's what Ben Franklin said.. and there should be a 2nd part..
"and will get neither too"
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Originally posted by askandanswer:
dragg, you sure or not? When Chen Shui Bian was President, he siphoned how much money from Taiwan. He also went against China. This caused a severe backlash to the Taiwanese economy. Just overnight, Taiwan was no longer like Hong Kong, S Korea or Singapore. Whereas Hong Kong, S Korea and Singapore contiune to boom, Taiwan stagnated. Now President Ma is trying his best to revive Taiwanese economy. Taiwan, as we knoiw it today, is no longer economically like what it was in the late 80s and early 90s.
how much can chen shui bian take that will hurt taiwan's reserves or her economy as a whole? frankly the goodness of a country is not based on one thing or one person alone.
its a risk the taiwanese took for the goodness of their stand for democracy.
at least they tried right?
are we better? a ruling party that pays themselves millions of dollars of salaries and nothing the citizen can do. they implement gst and nothing we can do.
see what hong kong did when their govt wanted to implement gst.
their citizens have a say in policies. we dont and we will never do.
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i need to add too.. this is from looking at all the current politicians, their characters and actions..
ALL politicians are douchebags.. there are no exceptions..
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Originally posted by the Bear:
i need to add too.. this is from looking at all the current politicians, their characters and actions..
ALL politicians are douchebags.. there are no exceptions..
that much is through.
its just a matter of choosing the best among the worst.
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i think you just came back from oversea?
Nobody voted Yeo and his team out. It's just that they did not get enough support to stay in.
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dragg, I beg to differ. It is obvious from what you wrote you do not know the real situation in Taiwan. For you to state "how much can chen shui bian take that will hurt taiwan's reserves or her economy as a whole" indicates you are not aware of the full situation in Taiwan. It certainly wasn't like that in the mid 80s to the mid 90s. Just go and do more research in this.
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Originally posted by askandanswer:
dragg, I beg to differ. It is obvious from what you wrote you do not know the real situation in Taiwan. For you to state "how much can chen shui bian take that will hurt taiwan's reserves or her economy as a whole" indicates you are not aware of the full situation in Taiwan. It certainly wasn't like that in the mid 80s to the mid 90s. Just go and do more research in this.
since you are away from Singapore, let's update you on some of the factors in the situation in Aljunied GRC:
1) Singaporeans in Aljunied GRC placed national issues over their own wards' personal interests.
e.g. immigration, inflation, foreigners, soaring HDB prices over their HDB building facades/ lift upgradings...etc.2) Singaporeans are getting more daring, especially young 1st time voters.
3) the building up of anger over the arrogant PAP ex-MPs in Aljunied GRC.
e.g. lim hwee hua, cynthia phua.4) exposing the major flaw of the GRC system put in place by PAP in 1988.
e.g. 2 rotten apples mentioned in point 3 made the people in Aljunied GRC threw away the whole basket of apples.
5) the growing frustration of the people in the Kaki Bukit ward in the GRC which was kicked around like a ball from one GRC to another GRC every GE due to the redrawing of electoral ward boundaries by the GE office, which is under the PM office's purview.6) by pulling down the overall total PAP popularity vote share to its lowest level since independence, the PAP will wake up from its slumber in its ivory tower and try keep its arrogance power in check with the overhaul of all government policies to include the present priority on the 'Singaporeans First' public policy.
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Originally posted by dragg:
how much can chen shui bian take that will hurt taiwan's reserves or her economy as a whole? frankly the goodness of a country is not based on one thing or one person alone.
its a risk the taiwanese took for the goodness of their stand for democracy.
at least they tried right?
are we better? a ruling party that pays themselves millions of dollars of salaries and nothing the citizen can do. they implement gst and nothing we can do.
see what hong kong did when their govt wanted to implement gst.
their citizens have a say in policies. we dont and we will never do.
How much did ah bian take? enough to land him in jail.......if it was a risk that Taiwanese took to elect ah bian, they lost their pants, and the 民进党 lost the election 4 years ago by over 220 millions votes!!
do they then have no democracy under Mah?
he who pay for a corrupted person in exchange for democracy knows not what democracy is.it is democracy that allow the taiwanese to elect ah bian as president, and it is the same democratic process that enable the taiwanese to dump him for Mah.
Do HK people have democracy? they have demonstrations almost every week end, from protesting against giving PR status to phillipino maids, to allowing PRC mothers giving birth in HK...but they all act within the framework set out by the government in beijing, that is not democracy?
and when HK government gave out HK$6000 to everybody who stay in HK, even to those who have migrated to canada, nobody cares where the money come from, as long as I have the money....hmmmm.....it is money that talks in HK...not democracy!
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Originally posted by the Bear:
He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.
that's what Ben Franklin said.. and there should be a 2nd part..
"and will get neither too"
Democracy and human rights do not equal freedom for everybody. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer...more so now in the US than ever before.
In the country that Franklin founded, some have both freedom and security, but most people have none.
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Originally posted by Rednano:
since you are away from Singapore, let's update you on some of the factors in the situation in Aljunied GRC:
1) Singaporeans in Aljunied GRC placed national issues over their own wards' personal interests.
e.g. immigration, inflation, foreigners, soaring HDB prices over their HDB building facades/ lift upgradings...etc.2) Singaporeans are getting more daring, especially young 1st time voters.
3) the building up of anger over the arrogant PAP ex-MPs in Aljunied GRC.
e.g. lim hwee hua, cynthia phua.4) exposing the major flaw of the GRC system put in place by PAP in 1988.
e.g. 2 rotten apples mentioned in point 3 made the people in Aljunied GRC threw away the whole basket of apples.
5) the growing frustration of the people in the Kaki Bukit ward in the GRC which was kicked around like a ball from one GRC to another GRC every GE due to the redrawing of electoral ward boundaries by the GE office, which is under the PM office's purview.6) by pulling down the overall total PAP popularity vote share to its lowest level since independence, the PAP will wake up from its slumber in its ivory tower and try keep its arrogance power in check with the overhaul of all government policies to include the present priority on the 'Singaporeans First' public policy.
You are not from Aljunied.
That much is clear.
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kill the chicken to inculcate the monkey
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
You are not from Aljunied.
That much is clear.
WP did took over Aljunied GRC.this much is even clearer.
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Don't worry about them, they can look for alternative livelyhood.
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Originally posted by Rednano:
WP did took over Aljunied GRC.this much is even clearer.
Yeah.
The place has become filthy, the bus interchange has become more dusty, the construction has mysteriously halted, and the painting that was promised did not materialise.
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
Yeah.
The place has become filthy, the bus interchange has become more dusty, the construction has mysteriously halted, and the painting that was promised did not materialise.
in that case, you should channel your complaints feedback on estate/ precinct to the town council.
Bedok bus interchange is already using the new temporary site presently.if constructions slow at sites, it's mainly the construction companies facing problems such as material delays, cash flow...etc.
then tell me if it's raining in Aljunied GRC, you also blame the town council?
if you think the PAP wards are not facing the same problems, then you are mistaken. -
yes of course
isn't that how you guys play the blame game just like those politicians?