In any revolution, pain and bloodshed must be shed, otherwise, changes cannot take place. Singaporeans, frankly speaking, are not ready for all these, cos most are overly pampered, like to remain status quo and just make money, the rest is not each problem.
As an organisation, if I want a restructuring or re engineering, I would hv to take a drastic move, remove peoples, find faults to get them out, ask managers to do the dirty work to keep giving them warning for minor discipline action, then once and for all remove them, after that remove the manager himself since he had become so unpopular, my image still remain intact,
Originally posted by angel7030:In any revolution, pain and bloodshed must be shed, otherwise, changes cannot take place. Singaporeans, frankly speaking, are not ready for all these, cos most are overly pampered, like to remain status quo and just make money, the rest is not each problem.
As an organisation, if I want a restructuring or re engineering, I would hv to take a drastic move, remove peoples, find faults to get them out, ask managers to do the dirty work to keep giving them warning for minor discipline action, then once and for all remove them, after that remove the manager himself since he had become so unpopular, my image still remain intact,
+1 .Singaporeans, frankly speaking, are not ready for all these, cos most are overly pampered, like to remain status quo and just make money, the rest is not each problem.
in singapore you need to have $400,000 in cash when you retire not including the house.with the current salary scalke made by gov and the economy.it might be hard even if gov propose any real plans.
suppose an engineer in spore earns $3,000 /mth after working 10 hours a day and 6 days aweek.so in 1 year he wouuld save like $24,000/year.
so in 20 years he would save $400,000.at age of 50 years old without marrying.
but $150,000 would be locked up in cpf n can only be taken out at age 60 and giving him like $250,000 in bank.and assuming if he can still work after age 50 or if any company needs to employ him............max would only have $250k in bank in private sector.
best is still to own a company when your mind is young and active.after the age of 50 ,it will be damn hard.
so when u say sporean come first..it all depends.age and $$$$.
Originally posted by Planet Hitman:in singapore you need to have $400,000 in cash when you retire not including the house.with the current salary scalke made by gov and the economy.it might be hard even if gov propose any real plans.
suppose an engineer in spore earns $3,000 /mth after working 10 hours a day and 6 days aweek.so in 1 year he wouuld save like $24,000/year.
so in 20 years he would save $400,000.at age of 50 years old without marrying.
but $150,000 would be locked up in cpf n can only be taken out at age 60 and giving him like $250,000 in bank.and assuming if he can still work after age 50 or if any company needs to employ him............max would only have $250k in bank in private sector.
best is still to own a company when your mind is young and active.after the age of 50 ,it will be damn hard.
so when u say sporean come first..it all depends.age and $$$$.
Out of this $3000, you missed out expenses.
Single guy CPF: 600
Travel+Acc: 600
Tax: 100
Food+Misc:600
Rest: 1000
This is before marriage. After that it is even worse.
Originally posted by Bio-Hawk:Out of this $3000, you missed out expenses.
Single guy CPF: 600
Travel+Acc: 600
Tax: 100
Food+Misc:600
Rest: 1000
This is before marriage. After that it is even worse.
cpf has been factored in.travelFOOD ETC ???also factored in to $1000 MINUS AWAY FROM $3K .OR $2K/MTH.YUP...AND ONLY COUNTING WITHOUT THE KIDS.
but mistake is 50 yrs old....im pushing the age limits n pretending that engineers n other werkin folks are wanted at age 50.as i see it,best set up company before u lose brain cells n reaction gets slower.
so by old age its expected to have onlky $400k.by that time dun think would be travelling.
then come the housing part which come in at around $300,000.
total needed would be $700k in monetary source.
and what can the $400k do in say 30 years after weking?its like 1970s moneysaved.in 2000 the money would have depreciated due to rising costs of food and other stuff.like in 1980s....malay chai png was like $3 max for meat and vege dishes.in 2010 malay chai png costs $7 at same shop with lesser food quantity.
so what $400,00 estimated now will be only worth like $200k in original value after 30 years.so sporeans come forst is ratyher like a too late too little solution.they never planned for anyones salary scale except theirs .
and what about your old folks?????they dont need $$$$$??!!!best solution to counterreact gov lack of forsight would be to setup your own company in cheaper countries.do whatever it takes...as long as dun end up with almost negligible savings and negligible afterlife.
Now it seem no more sporean come first. Foreigners are competing with us. Low skill foreigners taking over all the low pay jobs.
Money come first. If got money, then can survive, I mean survive in paying more increasing bills.
it all sounds like a drug addict scenario.once addicted.....very hard to get rid of the addiction to small $$$.something really dun sound right somewhere.
Originally posted by likeyou:Now it seem no more sporean come first. Foreigners are competing with us. Low skill foreigners taking over all the low pay jobs.
Money come first. If got money, then can survive, I mean survive in paying more increasing bills.
not only low skill.all the high skill.medium skill also taken up.
Money is the 1st priority for many people nowadays.
Originally posted by likeyou:Money is the 1st priority for many people nowadays.
$$$$ yes.earn it big yes.spent it all m,ostly on food and daily stuff .no.
only way to make $$$$$$ is setting up own company or become a MP.all the rest are just a sham.
very hard strategy to balance books in spore unless u own profitable big $$$$company in spore.
Originally posted by Planet Hitman:$$$$ yes.earn it big yes.spent it all m,ostly on food and daily stuff .no.
only way to make $$$$$$ is setting up own company or become a MP.all the rest are just a sham.
In reality, many couples earn their salay to pay off expenses, childen expenses, household expenses, they left a liitle bit to save for raining day. Scary isnt it?
That might consitute a decline in birth rate fearing couple unable to rise the kids fnancially and mentally.
Originally posted by angel7030:In any revolution, pain and bloodshed must be shed, otherwise, changes cannot take place. Singaporeans, frankly speaking, are not ready for all these, cos most are overly pampered, like to remain status quo and just make money, the rest is not each problem.
As an organisation, if I want a restructuring or re engineering, I would hv to take a drastic move, remove peoples, find faults to get them out, ask managers to do the dirty work to keep giving them warning for minor discipline action, then once and for all remove them, after that remove the manager himself since he had become so unpopular, my image still remain intact,
reengineering???werks only if its technonolgy related like a wireless method in internet etc.
if remove some....some dun like...all resign....u omo one man operation like the bus.
then u need techno n reengineering after dat.
Originally posted by likeyou:
In reality, many couples earn their salay to pay off expenses, childen expenses, household expenses, they left a liitle bit to save for raining day. Scary isnt it?That might consitute a decline in birth rate fearing couple unable to rise the kids fnancially and mentally.
its no choice.as spore isnt as big as malaysia.,,malaysians werk in spore can retire to malaysia...but spore retire where?? country visa dun allow u in and houses also at foreigner high price rate.
its spore gov fault.they stand there n dun help.only collect gst from everyone...and dumb ass pub company n nmrt increase price n food price etc etc...no end....just like upgrading computer every year to play computer games!
the following sequence takes priority in event of the Singapore First agenda...
Foreigners,
Women
Men ...
Men suffer more than any of the above groups....i have never hated our system more than ever ...
i just can't wait for the next GE...to see the system i hated so much to go
Actually, there are additional groups that take priority in Singapore...
Foreigners
Ministers
Women
Animals, esp dogs, cats and rabbits who have been abused
Men
U know Fcukpap, just let it go. We can't change anything. Life is already a grinding mill. Just pretend The System does not exist. Work on the more impt things.
Originally posted by Fcukpap:i just can't wait for the next GE...to see the system i hated so much to go
Kao, the GE this year should already been the year where changes are made loh.
You still want to wait for the next GE?
By then, most of us here all kena replaced by FTs ler, what sort of changes do you expect to happen then?
You want to wait, you wait loh. I rather find a chance to zao than stay on here and suffer.