Wikileaks: Sg Education edu system not helping
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Originally posted by sbst275:
Why not make it more valuable by imparting more skills be it via degree or diploma level.
Whichever society would have diff level of people in order to get the society to be working. Need not guess how we got here in the first place, there wasn't many degree holders to begin with.
The syllabus incorporated into each courses (diploma and degree) are industrial based already. It teaches them the student the fundamental thories and a little hands on practice of the skills that they need.It's the perception of many elder and younger generation that a paper qualification is far more important than anything else. The paper qualification and materialism is also closely link. i.e. if you have a degree, you can get a good job.
What many ppl failed to understand is that paper qualification doesn't have any meaning when you come out to work. It's just a piece of paper stating the education you've gone through. It does not state whether you are able to be creative and apply knowledge learned in school. The paper does not empowers you to add value to the company.
What current generation kids need to know is to how to add values using the knowledge and skillset they've gained during the course of study.
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I think I said le.. Maybe not obvious...
The degree is getting useless as it's getting overloaded to complete within the stipulated period.
Meanwhile you dun see values getting better
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eh sbst, you just wake up ar. our idea is the same lah. point your gun at another direct k?
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end of the day, uni is not for everyone..
same goes to it, reality is, economy has to adjust to this manner... furthermore, have to look out for ppl w/ skills, as some may not be academically inclined, but they've skills that ppl dun have...
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our education system has failed us.
1) we are neither good in english or our mother tongue, written or spoken
2) we were not taught grammer and phonetics in school
3) we were taught rote learning and memorising in school
4) we were not taught critical thinking and creative skills in school
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
our education system has failed us.
1) we are neither good in english or our mother tongue, written or spoken
It is all due to Harry Lee Kuan Yew.
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Originally posted by Dalforce 25:
It is all due to Harry Lee Kuan Yew.
I see. why you hated him so much eh can tell ma -
Originally posted by Rooney9:
I see. why you hated him so much eh can tell maBecause he is pro-west and destroyed and weakened local cultures and he is a fraud and distorted local history. Plus he is one petty, narrow, arrogant cocky bastard.
And most of his social policies are all failures, but not admitted by him.
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Originally posted by dragg:
i think many singaporeans are frustrated with the govt to the point of being irrational.
every policies has its good and bad points. it cant satisfy everybody.
there is no perfect govt. there is no perfect country.
if you compare the good to the bad singapore is still a good place to live.
my point is tackle issues that genuinely needs to be corrected. if we complaint too much on issues that are actually not bad it clouds the whole thing.
good? wat good is it if majority of us cant even AFFORD a roof over our heads? check the HDB prices, kiddo. think u or ur kids next time can afford it? wake up. unless u and ur kids were born with a damn GOLD spoon in ur mouths, life in singapore gonna be hell for u. i think i speak for majority of the singaporean forumers here when i say this: WHO can afford to live here? -
Originally posted by Casopia-maplesea:
good? wat good is it if majority of us cant even AFFORD a roof over our heads? check the HDB prices, kiddo. think u or ur kids next time can afford it? wake up. unless u and ur kids were born with a damn GOLD spoon in ur mouths, life in singapore gonna be hell for u. i think i speak for majority of the singaporean forumers here when i say this: WHO can afford to live here?the forummers here surely dont represent all singaporeans.
if you cant afford a 5 room buy a smaller one. if you still cannot afford then stay with your parents.
thats life.
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Originally posted by Casopia-maplesea:
good? wat good is it if majority of us cant even AFFORD a roof over our heads? check the HDB prices, kiddo. think u or ur kids next time can afford it? wake up. unless u and ur kids were born with a damn GOLD spoon in ur mouths, life in singapore gonna be hell for u. i think i speak for majority of the singaporean forumers here when i say this: WHO can afford to live here?No, you dont speak for the majority of singaporean.
While your concern about affordability of HDB for the next generation is worthy of attention and action, the majority of Singaporean are living in HDB NOW!
so stay with your parents if you must! If you are the only child in the family, the HDB flat your parents live, where you were born and brought up would be yours, until the lease expire. And if your wife is also the only child, then in time to come, you have 2 HDB flats to inherit.
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How Cheryl Chan, a merely director within MOE is able to leapfrog from a govt bureaucrat to a national futurist?
How she knows or able to predict that in the future, sometime 20 to 30 down the road, the workforce still the current status quo of minting 20 to 25 percentage graduates per cohort?
People of Singapore do you still remember the stop-at-two-births policy under CKS? -
Originally posted by 4sg:
How Cheryl Chan, a merely director within MOE is able to leapfrog from a govt bureaucrat to a national futurist?
How she knows or able to predict that in the future, sometime 20 to 30 down the road, the workforce still the current status quo of minting 20 to 25 percentage graduates per cohort?
People of Singapore do you still remember the stop-at-two-births policy under CKS?Wait, do you really need that many graduates? Then who's going to do all the other jobs?
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Planning Division of MOE consist of many branch includes the ones that outline the education for the next 5 to 10 years.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
Wait, do you really need that many graduates? Then who's going to do all the other jobs?
Already, the emphasis on graduates is a system harking back to the past colonial.
My question is not one asking for more or less graduates!
My question is "How one is able to tell 20 to 30 yrs down the road, the job demand or the job scope is as predicted now?"
Noboby predicted 20 to 30 years ago that one can make a career out of online gaming now then.
So why the straightjacket way planning for 20 to 25 % graduates per cohort for a timeframe which 20 to 30 yrs from now?
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We obviously hope the next gen would get better, hopefully most would go to uni..
But it also exposes for itself why there's forever foreign worker unknowingly, so who's going to drive the buses, who's going to be i/c of our food supplies imports...
Everyone wants to do executive position... Then bottom who do?
Sometimes the people who whacks abt foreign workers or whatever, didn't realise abt this question over education. It's co-related.
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Originally posted by 4sg:
Already, the emphasis on graduates is a system harking back to the past colonial.
My question is not one asking for more or less graduates!
My question is "How one is able to tell 20 to 30 yrs down the road, the job demand or the job scope is as predicted now?"
Noboby predicted 20 to 30 years ago that one can make a career out of online gaming now then.
So why the straightjacket way planning for 20 to 25 % graduates per cohort for a timeframe which 20 to 30 yrs from now?
Is it going to change that much?
I've posted why it's not going to as abv post
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Originally posted by sbst275:
Is it going to change that much?
I've posted why it's not going to as abv post
Well, maybe I am wrong - things may not change that much afterall. Status quo may not be a bad thing afterall. But we living in a period of fastest technology change in history of mankind - changing faster and faster with time.
I have read an interesting article about predicting future jobs or rather future job titles and description that are non existence now. Wonder anyone read that article before?This set me thinking about putting future things in perpective when things are actually setting in motion or about to set in motion.