HDB issue
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Our Minister insists that their profit of HDB is 16%. Now tampinese cost 900k for executive.
Oh my god he lied to us.
U see Malaysia. 1 units about RM 50-60k quite big.
Indonesia Batam: 1 unit about SGD 35k
One 4 room Singapore: SGD 300-400k ( 10 times more - They use gold brick is it)Please be transparent. Show us your accounts, HDB. DUn come and con us.
Yesterday, i and 5 of my friends all are very unhappy with the cost of HDB and they sell us so expensive. Suppose to be susidy right. Wtf, Cheap housing become like comparable to CONDO
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First day living in Sg?
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Public housing should be on a cost recovery basis, not on a profit basis.
SLA sells land to HDB on a market rate basis (land sold to private developers), then HDB gives you a discount.
At the end of the day, PAP government still gets richer (it's a matter of left pocket or right pocket), but citizens are enslaved by huge mortgage debt that keeps them working till they are in their 70s.
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Originally posted by βÎτά:
Public housing should be on a cost recovery basis, not on a profit basis.
SLA sells land to HDB on a market rate basis (land sold to private developers), then HDB gives you a discount.
At the end of the day, PAP government still gets richer (it's a matter of left pocket or right pocket), but citizens are enslaved by huge mortgage debt that keeps them working till they are in their 70s.
Wah laozzz, No wonder LHL ask us to buy a HDB and keep till old age. I hated them. SUck us only. Their main souce of income is to suck our blood. Khaw Boon Hua did not did a fantastic job.Setting up a party but not for election like Bersih 2.0. Singapore should set up Transparent 2.1. haha.
Fyi, People in 50+ to 60s are still paying their mortage.
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Originally posted by Itedino:
Wah laozzz, No wonder LHL ask us to buy a HDB and keep till old age. I hated them. SUck us only. Their main souce of income is to suck our blood. Khaw Boon Hua did not did a fantastic job.Setting up a party but not for election like Bersih 2.0. Singapore should set up Transparent 2.1. haha.
Fyi, People in 50+ to 60s are still paying their mortage.
It's good, these people can work till they are in their 70s, there will be no retirement for Singaporeans.
Debt enslavement, the new slavery.
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There should be no retirement age: MM Lee
By Imelda Saad | Posted: 28 July 2010 2230 hrsSINGAPORE: Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew has said that there should be no retirement age for workers.
He made the point at a dialogue session with over 900 senior managers, government officials and unionists on Wednesday.
The session was held in conjunction with the 30th anniversary of the Singapore National Employers Federation (SNEF).
Minister Mentor Lee got the audience in stitches when he made the bold suggestion - no retirement age for Singapore.
He said: "You work as long as you can work and you will be healthier and happier for it. If you ask me to stop working all of a sudden, I think I'll just shrivel up, face the wall and just that."
The 86-year-old said old people should be more productive.
Mr Lee was responding to a question on challenges Singapore may face with an aging population.
He said that at his age, he may have aches and pains but he can keep going.
He said: "Many of our workers have a preferred retirement, and then they die early! It won't be long before the message sinks home that if you keep doing what you're doing for almost the whole of your life, the chances are you will stay interested and engaged in life, there's something to do tomorrow and you keep going. If you start saying,'oh! I'm old!' And you start reading novels and playing golf or playing chess, well, you're on the way down."
From 2012, employers in Singapore will have to offer workers re-employment when they hit the retirement age of 62.
Mr Lee said older workers will need to come to terms with the psychological switch - that is, working for less pay and very likely for a younger boss.
He said: "That's life! You know American Generals - they don't do well, they get fired and they give them a medal, they send a new general! I think we have to develop that approach to life. (When) you have reached the maximum you can do at your age in that position, you move sideways and you take less pay and you move gradually, (getting) less and less pay because you are moving slower and slower, especially when you're doing physical work."
Mr Lee stressed the need to continue learning even as one gets older, adding "I'm still learning."
Attracting talents was another hot topic at the dialogue session. Mr Lee said foreign talents come to Singapore because of the opportunities it offers.
Their numbers will add to what Mr Lee called a growing "intellectual class".
Mr Lee said: "We are going to have an intellectual class, about maybe three times as big as what you have now and that will give us the dynamism, the powerful engine to carry us forward faster."
Mr Lee added that Singapore's attraction as a liveable, safe city with good infrastructure will support its push to enhance productivity.
The 45-minute dialogue was engaging and peppered with personal anecdotes. For example, Mr Lee shared how many of his ideas were gleaned from his travels.
He noted how a lot of policies in Singapore were the result of his experiences overseas. For example, deciding on having an underground train system over a network of tunnels for buses.
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If MM Lee can work till 86 y.o., I am sure you workers can work till you are in your 90s.
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Originally posted by βÎτά:
Public housing should be on a cost recovery basis, not on a profit basis.
SLA sells land to HDB on a market rate basis (land sold to private developers), then HDB gives you a discount.
At the end of the day, PAP government still gets richer (it's a matter of left pocket or right pocket), but citizens are enslaved by huge mortgage debt that keeps them working till they are in their 70s.
Huh? what? SLA sells land to HDB?? when we bought private property in Changi east, we did ask SLA why HDB got subsidy, SLA told us HDB is their subsidary, same same leh. Now they go tell you HDB dwellers SLA is not HDB??wha lau, govt very clever leh -
Originally posted by βÎτά:
If MM Lee can work till 86 y.o., I am sure you workers can work till you are in your 90s.
Yesterday, i came across an aunty, She is wiping table one. She order lunch with lots fo rice. Den she ate half and takeaway another half. I ask her why u still working like that. She say in SIngapore Bo Bian must work. Bo zuo Kang cannot survive, she ate two meals a day. She only spend SGD 2 on her meals daily. She drink plain water.See what did SIngapore government do for us. Luckily, my grandparents died early. If not i can see them wipe table or collect can. I really pity them.
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Originally posted by βÎτά:
If MM Lee can work till 86 y.o., I am sure you workers can work till you are in your 90s.
Under the annualtyCPF withdrawal scheme, after 85yo, you will be automatically cover by CPF insurance, then they said our singaporean average living age for male is 76yo and female is about 78yo, wow! I asked them why then, not start at 76yo, so that most of us can still get the coverage? -
Originally posted by Itedino:
Yesterday, i came across an aunty, She is wiping table one. She order lunch with lots fo rice. Den she ate half and takeaway another half. I ask her why u still working like that. She say in SIngapore Bo Bian must work. Bo zuo Kang cannot survive, she ate two meals a day. She only spend SGD 2 on her meals daily. She drink plain water.See what did SIngapore government do for us. Luckily, my grandparents died early. If not i can see them wipe table or collect can. I really pity them.
The Singapore govt will tell you our cleaners are better than most other countries' cleaner, our cleaner got 2 meals free, and good food too, so the most they spent is only $2, but mixing many type of food, they created buddha jump over the wall dish, and sometime got expensive hp to pick up too
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I got a feeling next time cleaner interview, People lining up to get the job.
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Welcome to Singapore Inc
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That Labour Chief Lim SS said "we dun call our cleaner as cleaners, we respect them for their committment and skill in willing to learn how to clean and serve, we call them, the Specialist"
Omg, this is worst than the Nazi SS brainwashing
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Originally posted by Itedino:
Our Minister insists that their profit of HDB is 16%. Now tampinese cost 900k for executive.
Oh my god he lied to us.
U see Malaysia. 1 units about RM 50-60k quite big.
Indonesia Batam: 1 unit about SGD 35k
One 4 room Singapore: SGD 300-400k ( 10 times more - They use gold brick is it)Please be transparent. Show us your accounts, HDB. DUn come and con us.
Yesterday, i and 5 of my friends all are very unhappy with the cost of HDB and they sell us so expensive. Suppose to be susidy right. Wtf, Cheap housing become like comparable to CONDO
somebody up there say " you can walk away and don buy if you find pigeon holes expensive " !!!
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Originally posted by βÎτά:
There should be no retirement age: MM Lee
By Imelda Saad | Posted: 28 July 2010 2230 hrs
SINGAPORE: Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew has said that there should be no retirement age for workers.
He made the point at a dialogue session with over 900 senior managers, government officials and unionists on Wednesday.
The session was held in conjunction with the 30th anniversary of the Singapore National Employers Federation (SNEF).
Minister Mentor Lee got the audience in stitches when he made the bold suggestion - no retirement age for Singapore.
He said: "You work as long as you can work and you will be healthier and happier for it. If you ask me to stop working all of a sudden, I think I'll just shrivel up, face the wall and just that."
The 86-year-old said old people should be more productive.
Mr Lee was responding to a question on challenges Singapore may face with an aging population.
He said that at his age, he may have aches and pains but he can keep going.
He said: "Many of our workers have a preferred retirement, and then they die early! It won't be long before the message sinks home that if you keep doing what you're doing for almost the whole of your life, the chances are you will stay interested and engaged in life, there's something to do tomorrow and you keep going. If you start saying,'oh! I'm old!' And you start reading novels and playing golf or playing chess, well, you're on the way down."
From 2012, employers in Singapore will have to offer workers re-employment when they hit the retirement age of 62.
Mr Lee said older workers will need to come to terms with the psychological switch - that is, working for less pay and very likely for a younger boss.
He said: "That's life! You know American Generals - they don't do well, they get fired and they give them a medal, they send a new general! I think we have to develop that approach to life. (When) you have reached the maximum you can do at your age in that position, you move sideways and you take less pay and you move gradually, (getting) less and less pay because you are moving slower and slower, especially when you're doing physical work."
Mr Lee stressed the need to continue learning even as one gets older, adding "I'm still learning."
Attracting talents was another hot topic at the dialogue session. Mr Lee said foreign talents come to Singapore because of the opportunities it offers.
Their numbers will add to what Mr Lee called a growing "intellectual class".
Mr Lee said: "We are going to have an intellectual class, about maybe three times as big as what you have now and that will give us the dynamism, the powerful engine to carry us forward faster."
Mr Lee added that Singapore's attraction as a liveable, safe city with good infrastructure will support its push to enhance productivity.
The 45-minute dialogue was engaging and peppered with personal anecdotes. For example, Mr Lee shared how many of his ideas were gleaned from his travels.
He noted how a lot of policies in Singapore were the result of his experiences overseas. For example, deciding on having an underground train system over a network of tunnels for buses.
- CNA/irIf my kang lui like him, cho bo lan, i'll make myself live till 200 yrs old and also work till then........
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You not happy HDB flats are so expensive, then don't buy lor.
Nobody force you to buy right?
Right?
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Originally posted by charlize:
You not happy HDB flats are so expensive, then don't buy lor.
Nobody force you to buy right?
Right?
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Originally posted by charlize:
You not happy HDB flats are so expensive, then don't buy lor.
Nobody force you to buy right?
Right?
Camp on Changi Beach?
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Originally posted by βÎτά:
Camp on Changi Beach?
You tell me how many people have the luxury of living just by the sea with the view and all that cool sea breeze.
Consider yourself part of the elite if you can find a good spot on the beach to set up your tent.
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Originally posted by Almond Cookies:
Live at void deck. Wait police catch u. Heard government caught many homeless ppl.With the crime rate going up, I don't think they have time to bother with people sleeping at the void decks.
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Originally posted by charlize:
You tell me how many people have the luxury of living just by the sea with the view and all that cool sea breeze.
Consider yourself part of the elite if you can find a good spot on the beach to set up your tent.
Beachfront properties.
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Originally posted by βÎτά:
Beachfront properties.
With your beach front property, you can laugh at those people who live in tiny condos in the Orchard area.
You have a whole stretch of seaside beach to enjoy while they only have a tiny swimming pool.
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Full seaview with toilet as large as a 4 room flat.
I wonder what will happen if almost all HDB dwellers get fed up, sell their flat and move into seaside, which is also part of their land, let say half a million give up, talk the profit, keep in bank, buy a big van, move to seaside like caravan in USA, wow! that will be nice. If one or 2 do it, they may catch them, but 1/2 a million, could trigger a total breakdown for them.
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Back to the strait settlement
