Vivian Bala on Flood Problem
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Originally posted by charlize:
Hey, you stay in Bukit Timah is it?
It's obvious the gen tat knew of the Bt Timah flood is dying.Tat Turf Club area would confirm flood one.
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As I passed by 1 stretch of flooded Thomson Rd tis afternoon, the new drain was pretty telling why it flooded...
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It is telling you that the engineer have failed to incorporate any safety factor for flood as it is more expensive to build a bigger drain.
In the end, we build a smaller drain and enjoyed free flood when there are heavy rain or clogged drain.
So, to further cut cost as it is HIGHLIGHTED that it is EXPENSIVE to fix the problem, we installed flood warning system and buy more sandbags.
We have become idiots, and evolved into bigger fools because we want to save some money in the first place.
Does it need a engineer to come out with this ?
It seemed like we have millionsters with clogged brain,
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Originally posted by Medicated Oil:
It is telling you that the engineer have failed to incorporate any safety factor for flood as it is more expensive to build a bigger drain.
In the end, we build a smaller drain and enjoyed free flood when there are heavy rain or clogged drain.
So, to further cut cost as it is HIGHLIGHTED that it is EXPENSIVE to fix the problem, we installed flood warning system and buy more sandbags.
We have become idiots, and evolved into bigger fools because we want to save some money in the first place.
Does it need a engineer to come out with this ?
It seemed like we have millionsters with clogged brain,
do you know how big is the Stamford Canal tat's running below Orchard Rd? -
drainage issues may have been highlighted and forewarned in pre-development phases by engineers...but superseded by economic planning decision...
some rainfall volumes may have been unpredicted though...and force majeure is an easily used term to transfer costs of risks to people...but continuous solution, no matter how costly, must be pursued...in view of safety and greater foreseeable economic losses
greater and more proactive commitments from the auhority awaits to be seen....
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I think water tank/ pumps are ok to me
but maintaining it is one big issue.
Come to think of it, fallen leaves....
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At least Vivian is the minister and not LKY.
"Somethings are beyond that; it's an act of God unless you want to lose half the roads and havee canals." Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew
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How big is the stamford canal ?
Or you are refering to the diameter ?
You should email Mr V to form a committee to find out.
Please remind him to use engineer and not doctor for the task.
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Originally posted by βÎτά:
More expensive?
Charges?
You are not making sense.
If there are many potholes on the roads in Toa Payoh, the government fixes it, you expect them to charge everybody that walks or drive through it money?
It's not like the PAP government is running on a high deficit, they have surpluses almost every year and they are hoarding it at the expense of citizens.
These are termed "public good" everybody gets to enjoy it without penalties.
Maybe you are a proponent of ERP for human traffic to give PAP an excuse to suck more money from Singaporeans.
Say Bedok Reservoir overruns it's embankment, the water affects the residents of Bedok Reservoir, government fixes it, but charges all the residents for it?
Makes sense to you?
That is what it is,'you are not making any senses'...but govt dont care so long they can get something ($$) from the people. That will make sense to them. -
Vivian Balakrisnan. Well, that Goh say it just having an annversary. haha Hilarious to me. But certainly a insult to the government. wahhahaha. Kanna shoot.
Vivian should come out to explain and apologise. What he doing? FUcking asshole. -
Originally posted by alize:
At least Vivian is the minister and not LKY.
"Somethings are beyond that; it's an act of God unless you want to lose half the roads and havee canals." Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew
fucking comments, if his house everyday kanna flood and whole singapore many places kanna flood. I think people in 25 floor like living in kelong. next time we get boat or sampan instead of car -
Originally posted by Medicated Oil:
It is telling you that the engineer have failed to incorporate any safety factor for flood as it is more expensive to build a bigger drain.
In the end, we build a smaller drain and enjoyed free flood when there are heavy rain or clogged drain.
So, to further cut cost as it is HIGHLIGHTED that it is EXPENSIVE to fix the problem, we installed flood warning system and buy more sandbags.
We have become idiots, and evolved into bigger fools because we want to save some money in the first place.
Does it need a engineer to come out with this ?
It seemed like we have millionsters with clogged brain,
den our income tax go where. go to their fucking pocket only. -
Originally posted by sbst275:
Contary to what ppl in TR or whoever trying to fry,the last time Johor had big flood of 7ft high was back in 1970s.
You dont exactly have to explain to someone who fled IPPT.
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They are doing the job very slow....twice flooded is not a excuses.
Appearing on the tv, scouting around the flooded area will not make the tenants happy.
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Originally posted by Medicated Oil:
How big is the stamford canal ?
Or you are refering to the diameter ?
You should email Mr V to form a committee to find out.
Please remind him to use engineer and not doctor for the task.
spare being hypocriticThose who had seen a section of it before it became fully covered due to Somerset 313 would realise how big and wide it was
End of the day, just how the drain do you want?
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The last orchard road flooded was also in June, so I think our govt should make another holiday, the flooding day, a holiday to mark the flooding and also to make people wary of the flood coming.
Flood means water, and water to chinese business and our govt, means $$, orchard with the GSS is generating lots of money, could be all thanks to the water and flooding, and flooding by itself also churn the economy, create more jobs like further digging and drilling, selling of more flood protective equipment like pumps and water proof gates, therefore if you look at it, it is generating $$ and jobs, otherwise, Singapore can be boring.
As for solution, singapore, especially orchard road is so congested both on land and below land ie underground, any wrong civil works can open up a hole in MRT tunnel or some underground wire and canals, we, as my lecturer once said, are living in a honey combed underground, full of tunnels, wires, pipes, canals etc etc, any shake or heavy flood causing soil erosion, we may sink altogether. So, i am thinking of writing a novel called "The Sinking Of Sinkapore"
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Originally posted by Itedino:
fucking comments, if his house everyday kanna flood and whole singapore many places kanna flood. I think people in 25 floor like living in kelong. next time we get boat or sampan instead of carhis house won't flood. it is on a hill behind orchard road, on a restricted-access road.
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On a hill? then how come he cannot see the flood coming?
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
You dont exactly have to explain to someone who fled IPPT.
he was talking to meand not u...so butt out! .who fled because of ippt??what has ippt got to do with flooding?rather maybe all the ippt has produced stupid muscle headed people in spore who cant take care of anything from flooding after a rain to almost everything in life.
hey......im thinking right now if i should buy a porsche 911 turbo and if its got an automatic transmission.,,,,where got time for ippt and those labourer class physical activities.sheeeesh...
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Originally posted by angel7030:
The last orchard road flooded was also in June, so I think our govt should make another holiday, the flooding day, a holiday to mark the flooding and also to make people wary of the flood coming.
Flood means water, and water to chinese business and our govt, means $$, orchard with the GSS is generating lots of money, could be all thanks to the water and flooding, and flooding by itself also churn the economy, create more jobs like further digging and drilling, selling of more flood protective equipment like pumps and water proof gates, therefore if you look at it, it is generating $$ and jobs, otherwise, Singapore can be boring.
As for solution, singapore, especially orchard road is so congested both on land and below land ie underground, any wrong civil works can open up a hole in MRT tunnel or some underground wire and canals, we, as my lecturer once said, are living in a honey combed underground, full of tunnels, wires, pipes, canals etc etc, any shake or heavy flood causing soil erosion, we may sink altogether. So, i am thinking of writing a novel called "The Sinking Of Sinkapore"
your novel wont sell unless its got sex,wet t-shirts and nudity after floods washed off everyones clothes!!!!
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IPPT ETC IS MEANT FOR LABOURERS!
IM A DIRECTOR AND DONT HAVE THAT MUCH TIME AND MUSCLES LIKE SINGAPORE LABOURERS..
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So good for you....you fled to a place that flooded an area a thousand times greater.
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I NOTICED THAT ALL THOSE WHO PASSED IPPT WITH NO PROBLEMS ARE USUALLY:
SALESMEN
LABOURER
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THOSE WHO HAVE NO TIME FOR IPPT SETUP FACTORIES AND ARE MANAGERS AND BIG TIMERS!
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
So good for you....you fled to a place that flooded an area a thousand times greater.
WELL...IM MENTALLY TOUGH...UNLIKE U FOLKS WHO WHINE OVER A TREE BEING UNDERWATER...THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THEY WANT IN LIFE AND THOSE WHO END UP BEING SLAVES FOR REST IF THEIR LIVES.
YES ...FLOOD COME AND GO....BUT CAN YER SITUATION COME AND GO???I THINK NOT.:)HAHAHA
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So why are you whining here with us instead of saving your tougher countrymen?