PM Lee announced changes to Cabinet
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Originally posted by alize:
This guy is a PR troll and a PAP plant. Please ignore him.
He can't win any arguments so he goes round trying to waste our time and brain cells.
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Wtf. One small country need so many ministers. DUn u find it strange? Knn, if we have the size of america. I suppose we are going to have around 3000-4000 minister and minster of state. WTf, everything they in charge. Normal MP do what. Zhuo bo lan is it.
Somemore pay also so high. They reduce to 3000-4000. Maybe i vote them back.
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why do we need ministers of state?
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Lim Hwee Hua is a Minister of State. Election time, MM Lee can claim Aljunied "lose two ministers..."
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The best , best of the best ....
Mr Tharman .
1.Deputy PM
2.Minsiter of Finance
3.Minister of Manpower .
4.Chairman of MAS .
5.Chairman of the IMF’s International Monetary and Financial Committee.
Anymore hair left ?
knn one man 5 portfolio ? Like that mah si bey bo eng ?
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Khaw Boon Wan volunteered the post to takeover from B.T Mah .
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With the changes made, shouldnt the mp lee assigned the potential-would-be-the-next-minister be attached to each of them? Rather than seeing the old faces change here and there?
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Originally posted by likeyou:
With the changes made, shouldnt the mp lee assigned the potential-would-be-the-next-minister be attached to each of them? Rather than seeing the old faces change here and there?
If tin pei ling can do it, why can't the cabinet ministers do it? Like that every cabinet minister can say give them 3 years to learn and try their best. Does it justify their salary if that is the case?
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Originally posted by ditzy:
If tin pei ling can do it, why can't the cabinet ministers do it? Like that every cabinet minister can say give them 3 years to learn and try their best. Does it justify their salary if that is the case?
The comment a good salary $15k per month? for mp right? -
Originally posted by likeyou:
The comment a good salary $15k per month? for mp right?MP is just 16K allowance, if you're MP + cabinet, that's a different case you do know that right?
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Best is no Mah Bow Tan and wong ka seng. I hate this 2.
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Originally posted by Almond Cookies:
Best is no Mah Bow Tan and wong ka seng. I hate this 2.
And Raymond Lim and Hwee Hua. Yay we got our wish.
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what about vivian?
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PAP is known to be a conservative party. Changes at most would only be cosmetic. I'm so surprised that Khaw is still around. Look at the healthcare sector, many cannot afford the bills anymore and he hasn't done anything to reform the insurance system.
Their PAP machinery and culture is so entrenched that when a new person takes over, don't bet your last dollar that he will reinvent the wheel. The writing's on the wall. Now I'm just waiting for the first minister to screw up.
Look at the entire fucking cabinet...... how many are yes men?
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
PAP is known to be a conservative party. Changes at most would only be cosmetic. I'm so surprised that Khaw is still around. Look at the healthcare sector, many cannot afford the bills anymore and he hasn't done anything to reform the insurance system.
Their PAP machinery and culture is so entrenched that when a new person takes over, don't bet your last dollar that he will reinvent the wheel. The writing's on the wall. Now I'm just waiting for the first minister to screw up.
Look at the entire fucking cabinet...... how many are yes men?
Nonsense!
Healthcare is very affordable, it only cost $8 for him to have an operation.
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I wonder will it ever be possible for the HDB prices to go down after all these changes.
All the shit left by Mah Bow Tan...haiz....donno what to say...
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I am afraid that some of these new and old remaining "clots" will cause further collateral damage to Singapore. Let's wait and see.
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Changing people does not equate to changing policies.
Really.
After every election, the PM will usually rotate his ministers around the various ministries.
This time, it's no different.
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Originally posted by laurence82:
why do we need ministers of state?
Same reason as to why we need SMs and MMs.
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The Reform Party Responds to PM Lee’s Cabinet Reshuffle
We note the announcement by PM Lee today of changes to the Cabinet*.
While it is good that the PM has owned up to the urgency of the need for change, it is clear that the PAP is at a loss where to go from here. The problem is not with the personnel at the head of each Ministry or department but with the policies themselves. This cabinet reshuffling of the same old figures is not rejuvenation and the same old line up wearing different numbered jerseys can only lead to stagnation. The PAP is wedded to its old policies which are failing, have failed or are simply not delivering for Singaporeans.The PM is quoted as saying “I wanted a fresh start, and that’s why I’ve gone for a radical change”. But this election we witnessed the PAP put up its weakest slate of new candidates for many years. It is clear that our ruling party has run out of ideas. As I said at the RP’s final rally on 5th May 2011, if The PM really wants a change we would advise him to pinjam some policies from the first new and fresh political Party to contest an election in Singapore for over 20 years.
http://youtube/f1RSMUm3ahY Minutes 7:10 for ‘pinjam’ comment.
Making Mr. Wong Kan Seng, Mr. Mah Bow Tan and Mr. Raymond Lim the sacrificial lambs does not change the fact that their Ministries’ failures are the responsibility of the entire government. Also if Mr. Lee Kuan Yew and Mr. Goh Chok Tong are stepping down, why have they been appointed as senior advisers to GIC and MAS and Mr. Goh given the title of Emeritus Senior Minister? After the PM’s comments about the PAP having a monopoly on talent in Singapore, so that there can only be one A Team, it is surprising that the government cannot allow them to enjoy their retirement. Furthermore we feel that the voters of Marine Parade and Tanjong Pagar have a right to feel aggrieved that the ministers and senior ministers they voted to keep in before the election, stepped down straight after the election. If I bought stock in a company heavily promoting its directors and the day after my purchase the directors stepped down, I would be aggrieved.
We are seriously concerned by the fact that several Ministers are now running more than one ministry after this reshuffle. This should be a wakeup call to the people of Singapore as it smacks of desperation. (Mr. Tharman acting as DPM, Finance and Manpower Minister and Mr. Shanmugam as Law and Foreign Affairs Minister) This, more than any other factor of the reshuffle shows that the government simply lacks enough talented players. How can we hope for any fresh ideas or talent to emerge from the PAP when they occupy 81 of the 87 seats in Parliament in a top-heavy and extremely expensive structure yet still need to double up?
Failed and failing PAP policies include:
• An outmoded economic growth strategy which boosts the incomes and employment of Non citizens and their home economies rather than the real incomes of Singaporeans.
• A housing policy derived from Socialist-era Britain that keeps Singaporeans in almost serf-like dependence on the government rather than allowing them to actually own their own property and live where they want. At the same time, in an effort to win votes and boost the asset side of the government’s balance sheet, the government has embarked on an irresponsible so-called asset “enhancement” strategy of deliberately driving up prices. This both puts the first rung of the property ladder out of reach of young Singaporeans and will have severe consequences for the real economy when the bubble bursts. There will not be nor ever be a fat middle class in Singapore with this housing policy but instead only a spread of the sandwich classes.
• A “forced saving” policy (CPF) appropriate to earlier stages of development where the goalposts are regularly moved without Singaporeans having any choice in the matter.
• A healthcare policy which deters Singaporeans from seeking early treatment for many serious illnesses because of high fees and leaves them facing financial ruin if they develop a life-threatening or high maintenance chronic condition.
• An economy which is controlled to a large extent by GLCs and where Singaporeans pay higher prices than they need to for many basic utilities and public transport because of lack of competition and/or effective regulation.
• A non-transparent process of accumulating chronic government surpluses (of the magnitude of over $100 billion over the last ten years excluding surpluses from Temasek and GIC and profits from land sales) without justifying why such large savings are necessary and whether or not a large part of them can be prudently returned to the people in the form of lower taxes or higher spending or dividends.
• Not one but two Sovereign Wealth Funds whose asset valuation and investment policies are opaque and whose ultimate purpose is unclear. Singaporeans should properly be given transparency and accountability. Indeed The Reform Party calls for them to be given a stake as it is their savings and hard work which has financed this accumulation.
• A Defence Policy which relies on an amateur conscript force. This labour comes only from male Singaporeans (but not male new citizens) who are then not equitably compensated for their economic sacrifice.
• Restrictions on the rights and liberties of Singaporeans which insult our intelligence and reduce us to the equivalent of a subject people in our own county.
• Restrictions on the rights to freedoms of speech and expression which reduce Singapore to the level of a Third World developing or authoritarian state.
• Obscenely high pay for Ministers which appears to be negatively correlated with the quality of their performance.When The Prime Minister has finished moving his pieces around he can find some new ideas and our policy proposals here: http://thereformparty.net/voting-rp/election-manifesto/
Taken from
http://thereformparty.net/about/press-releases/the-reform-party-responds-to-pm-lee%E2%80%99s-cabinet-reshuffle/
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Originally posted by Askingyouto:
The Reform Party Responds to PM Lee’s Cabinet Reshuffle
We note the announcement by PM Lee today of changes to the Cabinet*.
While it is good that the PM has owned up to the urgency of the need for change, it is clear that the PAP is at a loss where to go from here. The problem is not with the personnel at the head of each Ministry or department but with the policies themselves. This cabinet reshuffling of the same old figures is not rejuvenation and the same old line up wearing different numbered jerseys can only lead to stagnation. The PAP is wedded to its old policies which are failing, have failed or are simply not delivering for Singaporeans.The PM is quoted as saying “I wanted a fresh start, and that’s why I’ve gone for a radical change”. But this election we witnessed the PAP put up its weakest slate of new candidates for many years. It is clear that our ruling party has run out of ideas. As I said at the RP’s final rally on 5th May 2011, if The PM really wants a change we would advise him to pinjam some policies from the first new and fresh political Party to contest an election in Singapore for over 20 years.
http://youtube/f1RSMUm3ahY Minutes 7:10 for ‘pinjam’ comment.
Making Mr. Wong Kan Seng, Mr. Mah Bow Tan and Mr. Raymond Lim the sacrificial lambs does not change the fact that their Ministries’ failures are the responsibility of the entire government. Also if Mr. Lee Kuan Yew and Mr. Goh Chok Tong are stepping down, why have they been appointed as senior advisers to GIC and MAS and Mr. Goh given the title of Emeritus Senior Minister? After the PM’s comments about the PAP having a monopoly on talent in Singapore, so that there can only be one A Team, it is surprising that the government cannot allow them to enjoy their retirement. Furthermore we feel that the voters of Marine Parade and Tanjong Pagar have a right to feel aggrieved that the ministers and senior ministers they voted to keep in before the election, stepped down straight after the election. If I bought stock in a company heavily promoting its directors and the day after my purchase the directors stepped down, I would be aggrieved.
We are seriously concerned by the fact that several Ministers are now running more than one ministry after this reshuffle. This should be a wakeup call to the people of Singapore as it smacks of desperation. (Mr. Tharman acting as DPM, Finance and Manpower Minister and Mr. Shanmugam as Law and Foreign Affairs Minister) This, more than any other factor of the reshuffle shows that the government simply lacks enough talented players. How can we hope for any fresh ideas or talent to emerge from the PAP when they occupy 81 of the 87 seats in Parliament in a top-heavy and extremely expensive structure yet still need to double up?
Failed and failing PAP policies include:
• An outmoded economic growth strategy which boosts the incomes and employment of Non citizens and their home economies rather than the real incomes of Singaporeans.
• A housing policy derived from Socialist-era Britain that keeps Singaporeans in almost serf-like dependence on the government rather than allowing them to actually own their own property and live where they want. At the same time, in an effort to win votes and boost the asset side of the government’s balance sheet, the government has embarked on an irresponsible so-called asset “enhancement” strategy of deliberately driving up prices. This both puts the first rung of the property ladder out of reach of young Singaporeans and will have severe consequences for the real economy when the bubble bursts. There will not be nor ever be a fat middle class in Singapore with this housing policy but instead only a spread of the sandwich classes.
• A “forced saving” policy (CPF) appropriate to earlier stages of development where the goalposts are regularly moved without Singaporeans having any choice in the matter.
• A healthcare policy which deters Singaporeans from seeking early treatment for many serious illnesses because of high fees and leaves them facing financial ruin if they develop a life-threatening or high maintenance chronic condition.
• An economy which is controlled to a large extent by GLCs and where Singaporeans pay higher prices than they need to for many basic utilities and public transport because of lack of competition and/or effective regulation.
• A non-transparent process of accumulating chronic government surpluses (of the magnitude of over $100 billion over the last ten years excluding surpluses from Temasek and GIC and profits from land sales) without justifying why such large savings are necessary and whether or not a large part of them can be prudently returned to the people in the form of lower taxes or higher spending or dividends.
• Not one but two Sovereign Wealth Funds whose asset valuation and investment policies are opaque and whose ultimate purpose is unclear. Singaporeans should properly be given transparency and accountability. Indeed The Reform Party calls for them to be given a stake as it is their savings and hard work which has financed this accumulation.
• A Defence Policy which relies on an amateur conscript force. This labour comes only from male Singaporeans (but not male new citizens) who are then not equitably compensated for their economic sacrifice.
• Restrictions on the rights and liberties of Singaporeans which insult our intelligence and reduce us to the equivalent of a subject people in our own county.
• Restrictions on the rights to freedoms of speech and expression which reduce Singapore to the level of a Third World developing or authoritarian state.
• Obscenely high pay for Ministers which appears to be negatively correlated with the quality of their performance.When The Prime Minister has finished moving his pieces around he can find some new ideas and our policy proposals here: http://thereformparty.net/voting-rp/election-manifesto/
Taken from
http://thereformparty.net/about/press-releases/the-reform-party-responds-to-pm-lee%E2%80%99s-cabinet-reshuffle/
LKY, GCT, all bowed out, WKS, MBT and RL were probably asked to leave in recognition of the mistake they made. The newly elected, including the WP are all quiet and leave the new cabinet to work out what is necessary. Changes in policies are very likely but will have to take its course.
But how interesting those who couldn't even form a party big enough to challenge the ruling party in the election, couldn't even come up with a proper party manifesto, (let alone winning a single seat in the election) are so quick in assuming the role of advisor telling the elected what to do, or they think they can do a better job? Now it is not what should be changed, it is what should be the new policies!
The people of singapore are waiting to see how the new cabinet will perform, how the opposition party elected into the parliament can speak for the people and make a difference. Those who have lost will have to work double hard to show us why they deserve more votes to make a difference, the next time. Talk a lot won't make any difference.
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before all of you start to shoot the changes in cabinet ministers......do not under estimate the difficulties of transition leadership and "Change Management".
Please remember it is easy to type in internet and post comments.....
To have opposition in parliment is great but they are still a infant. they have yet to be tested as a Party.
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Originally posted by Askingyouto:
The Reform Party Responds to PM Lee’s Cabinet
.If RP so good, then why they performed so badly?
Talk is cheap, track record is important
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Originally posted by Redwhite spore:
If RP so good, then why they performed so badly?
Talk is cheap, track record is important
Ah.
The famous "track record" argument being used again.
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Originally posted by charlize:
Ah.
The famous "track record" argument being used again.
for the record, i regret never bring my parents to universal studio