CSJ asks for SDP v PAP debate on Talking Point |
Thursday, 03 March 2011 |
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PAP no balls wor.........It will be a good thing to let singaporeans compare the shadow budget and the real one. Let singaporeans know what's best and what's not. Obviously, party interests come before citizens.
Vote them out!
The ball is in State TV and PAP's court.
Debate between political parties on TV is common in democracies.
If PAP refuses, then they are cowards and I will put a label on PAP and call them cowards.
Of course lah, the woman who replied CSJ where got balls.
Since you all know that it is a state TV, why go challenge the unnecessary? Oppositions or SDP, use your brain lah, shift your energy to better thing than doing something that do not bear fruits but more anger
All of PAP's elections propaganda must be exposed and destroyed wherever they are found.
Although all mainstream media in this country are directly or indirectly under the control of PAP regime and serves the interests of the regime, the mainstream media likes to put up a falsehood that they are neutral and unbiased.
That is why we must expose this falsehood for the entire world to see.
Some naive people still believes in the propaganda of state media, they are not awakened at all and is still under manipulation of PAP propaganda.
This cannot be allowed to continue and it must end sooner or later.
All of PAP's propaganda must be destroyed.
up there, you prefer Singapore to be rule by marxism ? We should also be careful of your communist agenda for Singaporeans.
Originally posted by Wiser:up there, you prefer Singapore to be rule by marxism ? We should also be careful of your communist agenda for Singaporeans.
a more left wing regime, not marxist.
left wing, right wing, chicken wing, who care, just stupid idealistic theories.
Originally posted by Wiser:left wing, right wing, chicken wing, who care, just stupid idealistic theories.
Singapore population used to be more left wing and even PAP declared itself leftwing, later Lee Kuan Yew carried out the policy of depolitisation of Singapore society, destroy all politics etc and thus resulted in the de-ideological state of Singapore politics.
Lee Kuan Yew doesn't care about political ideology. He is only interested in power.
At first he was right wing, with the pro-british progressive party, then later switch to left wing and finally back to right wing.
Which ideology serves his interests of obtaining power, he will follow.
After his education in Britain, Lee Kuan Yew returned to Singapore in 1949 to practise as a lawyer in the law firm Laycock and Ong.
He became the honorary legal adviser for several trade unions after being acquainted with their leaders (in 1951) and subsequently caught the public eye in February 1952, when the Postal Workers Union succeeded, with his guidance, in obtaining important concessions from the colonial government.
According to his memoirs and this website, Lee Kuan Yew then proceeded to form the PAP with the help of the communists.
Yet these sources conveniently neglect to mention Lee Kuan Yew's involvement in the Singapore Progressive Party in the 1951 legislative elections.
In fact, Lee acted as the election agent for his boss John Laycock, helping him to manage his campaign and canvass on his behalf. (See here and here for proof) He had thus entered into politics even before he became involved in the trade unions' dispute with the British. (Polling day for the 1951 legislative elections was on 10 April, we can assume that his political activities with the SPP started months before that)
If I may speculate, LKY joined the SPP initially to build up his political career there.
However when the Rendel Constitution expanded the electoral rolls to include all local-born as voters, resulting in a significant increase in Chinese voters, LKY decided to jump ship and formed the PAP in 1954 because he saw that the SPP lacked the support of the Chinese working class. (So the next time LKY condemns politicians who change political parties, you know where he's coming from)
Yet the problem isn't solely that LKY jumped ship and didn't care to tell anyone about his great experience in his memoirs.
The bigger problem lies in the fact that LKY supported the SPP despite the fact that it was
A) pro-British in both its policies and in its composition of members (mostly English-speaking upper class professionals)
B) unsupportive of achieving independence (it merely paid lip-service to the idea by declaring in October 1952, its objective of Singapore achieving independence through a Singapore-Malaya merger without setting a target date)
Lee Kuan Yew's miraculous change of heart on these issues when he joined the PAP only demonstrates how the pursuit of power can sometimes make one very flexible about their beliefs. Unfortunately for us, this flexibility of LKY's did not extend to the area of political freedoms.
http://us.asiancorrespondent.com/secret-blog/2009/09/is-lee-kuan-yew-more-interested-in.html
Originally posted by Rock^Star:PAP no balls wor.........It will be a good thing to let singaporeans compare the shadow budget and the real one. Let singaporeans know what's best and what's not. Obviously, party interests come before citizens.
Vote them out!
I see how CSJ can implement e budget
Cut defence spending but want to increase NS allowance or even go into regular army. CSJ say his budget not populist, he's owning himself.
I would always say one thing
Whole day say budget cut populist policy... End up you run e govt, I see how you're going to do wat you promised when it comes to that moment.
Neither is it to be pro-PAP or watever. It's all budget balance
I want to have a debate with CSJ over the SDP's shadow budget in the speaker's
corner forum of the sgforums.com, can I ?
CSJ claims that SDP has a right to voice its opinion as an opposition party.
So, as an eligible voter, CSJ should give me the right to debate with him over the
shadow budget too in sgforums.com.
Will he respond to a nobody like me ?
aiya...that is why our Mr LKY is the top man of a country. Can't beat him, join him lor.
Originally posted by Devil7030:I want to have a debate with CSJ over the SDP's shadow budget in the speaker's
corner forum of the sgforums.com, can I ?
CSJ claims that SDP has a right to voice its opinion as an opposition party.
So, as an eligible voter, CSJ should give me the right to debate with him over the
shadow budget too in sgforums.com.
Will he respond to a nobody like me ?
SDP asks for debate with PAP in talking point
Devil7030 asks for debate with CSJ in speaker's corner of sgforums. com
Why CSJ asks for fairness but he does not practise why he says leh ?
No response from CSJ to a nobody like me.
Originally posted by Devil7030:I want to have a debate with CSJ over the SDP's shadow budget in the speaker's
corner forum of the sgforums.com, can I ?
CSJ claims that SDP has a right to voice its opinion as an opposition party.
So, as an eligible voter, CSJ should give me the right to debate with him over the
shadow budget too in sgforums.com.
Will he respond to a nobody like me ?
Like this, I also want, as a PR and lady here, I also want to have a say in Singapore, CSJ should take the ground from all walk of life, let have a 3 parties debate, and to be fair, I am not a nobody, I got some body in me