Originally posted by Devil7030:SAF has no intention to go into any wars with any country but it makes sure that any country that has any evil intention against Singapore , the enemy will suffer very heavy causaulties and at enormous cost.
The role of SAF is to act as a deterrent and makes the enemy to think twice before they intend to attack Singapore.
Apparently, you have not heard of LKY meeting with Dr M. This was prior to Newater technological discovery.
LKY warned Dr M that if Singapore supply of water is shut down, he will go in and restore the supply - not walk in, not invite in, not ask to go in. But to go in forcefully - read 'invasion'.
Journalists which have their origins from ISD are PAP best weapons. They would reconstructed any ones's interview to twist their words in accordance to PAP's aims.
Old trick, the American government used it to deceive their own citizens in the 60's and 70's.
Originally posted by Askingyouto:Journalists which have their origins from ISD are PAP best weapons. They would reconstructed any ones's interview to twist their words in accordance to PAP's aims.
Old trick, the American government used it to deceive their own citizens in the 60's and 70's.
well. then CSJ shall tell us what did he say.
Originally posted by lionnoisy:well. then CSJ shall tell us what did he say.
The entire mass media is controlled by PAP. The only way is to go to his SDP website.
did he say what I quoted?
the saf is to make money not for war
I agree our country will be destroyed in a war.
Even missiles hitting us,our flats will collaspe.
I believe our country should cut down on defense. But should still spend on some equipment.
He actually said tat focus should be on diplomacy
Originally posted by sbst275:He actually said tat focus should be on diplomacy
Of course war should be the last resort. Diplomacy to solve issues with other countries. War when people invade us.
Originally posted by Cute Dolphin:
Of course war should be the last resort. Diplomacy to solve issues with other countries. War when people invade us.
true
but deterrence is still good to have.. necessary evil
Originally posted by lionnoisy:did he say what I quoted?
SDP Shadow Budget 2011 on page 26
Security and external relations
E7. Ministry of Defence (MINDEF)
The
best defence of the nation is good relations with its neighbours. Our
defence policy will be founded upon building international friendships,
replacing the hostile and confrontational stance of the past. Amity
among nations will replace the need for high spending on armaments and
we will focus our efforts to increase economic and social/cultural
cooperation, the sharing of expertise and technology, and the pooling of
resources. We will thereforce reduce our defence force to one that
allows us to enjoy a peaceful and secure environment and unimpeded
access to our lines of communication.
A significant reduction in
defence spending is made. An immediate moratorium on the purchase of new
armaments will be established. We will allocate resources to study the
feasibility of scaling down our defence force to a fully professional,
non-conscript body. As part of this study, we will look into the
immediate reduction of NAtional Service to one year and the feasibility
of transferring surplus manpower to civilian sectors such as hospitals
and environmental clean-up units.
Mindef will pay full-time NSmen
the minimun wage of $1,200 as basic allowance. These men have been
called to serve the nation and they risk their lives in doing so. They
shall not be exploited.
....................................................................................................................................
Here's the full paragraph in the SDP Shadow Budget 2011 on page 26. It is a PDF format and I can't copy and paste. I typed it with my snail speed fingers.
I went to the chinese link that you gave, but I surrender when I saw the amount of Chinese texts.
German philiospher Luwig Wittgenstein has said that languages are like word games. In the 1920s, if I remember correctly, academics are very concerned with the problems of languages, meanings and stuff like that. There are loopholes or mistakes that can be exploited, for example, English to Chinese and so on.
The folks at SPH are well versed to emphasie what words will acheive their aims. They can't do a complete news blankout of opposition parties as people nowadays are more discerning, but they can still tweak certain words to influcence our thoughts. It will be subtle and not easily found out.
My family still has subscription to the Chinese and morning newspapers. I normally just skim through the headlines and do a quick read up if needed. Mostly I will try to find pictures of pretty girls to start me up instead. I am always wary of their reporting style. The most famous of them being Chua Mui Hoong (Political Editor) who is formerly from ISD.
PAP did not spend these few decades acquiring independent newspapers and grouping them all under SPH for nothing. I don't think it really brings in money nowadays, SPH, if I'm not mistaken dabbles in other stuff to earn most of their revenues. PAP believe that it is a valuable tool and time and time again, during elections PAP have the upper hand.
OK
so who wants to sign on?
reduce NS to 1 year... you sure you're going to train commanders? Seriously the places tat needs NSF is the Home Team be it police or ICA.
Min wage of $1200??? Cut GST, still got a $$ to increase allowance?
CSJ just want to be popular.
By talking about banning NS he targets those who are afraid of NS.
By talking about handouts to old people, he targets the uncles and aunties.
By talking about throwing out foreign workers, he targets those who don't know how to land a job.
He has a doctorate, and he reduced the strongest opposition party Singapore ever had into a gathering of babbling rowdies. And now want to regain popular support by populist rethorics.
He should see a psychiatrist, about his political ambitions.
while i was in NS, a Warrant Officer once asked me. Do you think NS should be gone? i said no for various 'society/character' reasons. not impt.
he then asked me who are we most likely go to war with? i said Msian and Indo. Then he asked me. Who will most likely win the war. i replied cfm them. coz the amount of soldiers is enough to flatten us.
then he told me one scenario. imagine u are a man with a wife and daughter at home. a few robbers forced and broke into ur house. they also raped your wife and daughter. he asked me what would i do? try to fight off the robbers to prevent this even though u know u cant stop it? or sit or do nth while they are being raped?
he then said even if u tried and cannot fight off the robbers, ur wife and daughter will still come treat ur wounds after the incident and will bring the family closer. if u did nth, its over, no more respect. thought over it. quite true.
so... i think NS is essential. but i do think the expenditure abit too high.
btw i dont rmb CSJ saying he wan abolish NS.
Ns is important but cut it to 1.5 year lah.
Cut down on defense budget and spend it on the poor is better.
Originally posted by Cute Dolphin:Ns is important but cut it to 1.5 year lah.
Cut down on defense budget and spend it on the poor is better.
no ask your Jesus or god to save Singapore, wouldn't it be better?
when war comes, will your Jesus or god come to aid Spore? May god save Singapore.
Give more NS allowance is good too.
Singapore is a land super blessed by God. No earthquakes and no natural disasters.
Originally posted by Cute Dolphin:Give more NS allowance is good too.
Singapore is a land super blessed by God. No earthquakes and no natural disasters.
how come god doesnt bless Singapore to be without dengue mosquitoes?
Originally posted by Rooney9:how come god doesnt bless Singapore to be without dengue mosquitoes?
We are already better than other countries why complain so much.
Be thankful you ain't born in India and middle east countries.
Singapore is a land of religious freedom and we Christians are persecuted lesser.
Pls be contend.
Originally posted by Cute Dolphin:
We are already better than other countries why complain so much.Be thankful you ain't born in India and middle east countries.
Singapore is a land of religious freedom and we Christians are persecuted lesser.
Pls be contend.
you mean these are blessed by god? show proof
Originally posted by Rooney9:you mean these are blessed by god? show proof
Of course Singapore is blessed. It's better than other countries right.
Countries who attained developed countries or near this status are blessed by God.
Originally posted by Cute Dolphin:
Of course Singapore is blessed. It's better than other countries right.Countries who attained developed countries or near this status are blessed by God.
Jews are chosen people. so why are they persecuted and mortar attacks? god didnt protect them?
Originally posted by Rooney9:Jews are chosen people. so why are they persecuted and mortar attacks? god didnt protect them?
They did not accept Jesus as messiah.
Where got Singapore not persecuted.
Never heard ot Singapore bashing.
Singapore cannot be less than perfect, because these fellows will start their condemnation, criticisms, and jokes at any inperfections.