I think logically everybody should be able to speak, and then if the content of the speech is inflamatory or is hate speech, then there should be a law against it.
But it is not right to have a rule which says before you speak you must seek a permit first.
This is totally heavy-handed.
Also I wish people would stop quoting a certain person named Gopalan Nair, because he is precisely a counter example of what a good freedom of expression is. He is a perfect poster boy for stringent and heavy handed state control, because he has indeed uttered hate speech and inflamatory speech.
It is therefore counter-productive to use him to help promote freedom of speech.
You may remember him as someone who has uttered verbal abuse to policemen based on their ethnicity. You may also be familiar with some of his online writings, which in my opinion is very racist, extremist, inflammatory, primitive, and gutteral.
Someone who harbours such racial extremism and vitriol is unsuitable to be put up as a champion of freedom of speech.
Originally posted by Veggie Bao:I find it alarming that some people seem to support or agree to the jailing of Dr Chee.
The topics here in this forum, and the ideological and philosophical spectrum of some people have confused me totally.
On one hand, they disapprove of ministers salary, housing prices, and wanted to have minimum wage rule. There are some who even seem to fall hook, line, and sinker, and swallow some cheap political propaganda and posturing from opposition regarding Thaipusam ruling recently, which in my mind is treacherous and is playing the racial card. Strangely some people seem to want to play that game enthusiastically and set themselves up as equality zealots.
Yet, on this issue, there is very little support for Dr Chee, or more to the point, against the nature of this action by the government.
In my mind, I disapprove and disagree with this action, because it is so heavy handed and neo-fascist to jail someone just because he is an opposition figure.
Is it necessary to silent him and jail him ?
This kind of action severely undermine the credibility and moral authority of the government.
I do not know why the Singapore government likes to shoot itself on the foot like this, and still use 1960s mentality.
It is regrettable.
See how does Chee canvas for support in public is disturbing the way of life of Singaporeans.
Originally posted by Julian.khor:Hsien Loong is like Mubarak's son Gamal. We should rise up against the PAP dictator like the Egyptians. The trouble wif us is tat we luv our money n property so much tat we r not willing to fight for our freedom. Look at the Egyptians, they kena tear gas, rubber bullet and bullets, still want to fight. We must protest like 1 million man march to Joo Chiat make Angel7030 pub our head quarters.
So afterward the police will mistaken Angel as our spokesperson n arrest her.
The people of Egypt starve more than those in SG, so they do not fear death by getting crushed by armoured vehicles. Better than going hungry for their entire life.
frankly CSJ's a cheap fraud, an ass, an attention whore with a victim complex.. which says a lot about the people who follow him and eat his shit like it was the best caviar
to those who compare us to Egypt, get your head out of your ass.. we may not be the best around, but we're shitloads better than the poor bastards living there...
slashing yourself with an illegal weapon and then blaming the powers for arresting you for using an illegal weapon is not only stupid, it's fucking irresponsible and doesn't do anything to addressing the problem of the illegality of the weapon..
the assholes attention whoring is going to derail the whole elections again by distracting everyone from the real and important issues at hand...
the fucker has done this for so many elections, and now he's added to his arsenal of distraction by recruiting the other asswipe who almost derailed the WP, Gomez into his ranks...
attention whoring as a victim is despicable... and being an attention whore is not the policies which will lift Singapore further...
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Originally posted by the Bear:the fucker has done this for so many elections, and now he's added to his arsenal of distraction by recruiting the other asswipe who almost derailed the WP, Gomez into his ranks...
Aha, so you think Gomez saboed the WP team in ALJ back in 01?
Originally posted by Veggie Bao:I think logically everybody should be able to speak, and then if the content of the speech is inflamatory or is hate speech, then there should be a law against it.
But it is not right to have a rule which says before you speak you must seek a permit first.
This is totally heavy-handed.
Also I wish people would stop quoting a certain person named Gopalan Nair, because he is precisely a counter example of what a good freedom of expression is. He is a perfect poster boy for stringent and heavy handed state control, because he has indeed uttered hate speech and inflamatory speech.
It is therefore counter-productive to use him to help promote freedom of speech.
You may remember him as someone who has uttered verbal abuse to policemen based on their ethnicity. You may also be familiar with some of his online writings, which in my opinion is very racist, extremist, inflammatory, primitive, and gutteral.
Someone who harbours such racial extremism and vitriol is unsuitable to be put up as a champion of freedom of speech.