Think before you vote
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For PSLE and "O" "A" levels, still using UK system mah....how to be more creative in education? Just study and memorize hard to score....I think the American edu system is better....their youths are more creative and more street smart also....
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Creativity in SG can't make $ leh....only what scores counted.... Even until Univ level, scores are everything....you can sing or play the piano not important....
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Its paper chase in SG....the grab a diploma/degree system is unlikely to change....Even if opposition wins, I dun think this will help....
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Creative CEO is a Ngee Ann dropout, Street 77th boss is only o level, bengawan solo cake shop boss is only a nonya ah soh, Prime deli boss speak cantonese better than mandarin, no education, OCBC, UOB chairmen speak hokkien at meeting, those cannot understand, have to pack and go. Polar puff and cake boss is only a normal lady with secondary sch education. Not to mention those ah gua with only diploma haircutting and now a millionaires, haiz...so much for education
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oops, and me, pub's boss, diploma only
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
Creativity in SG can't make $ leh....only what scores counted.... Even until Univ level, scores are everything....you can sing or play the piano not important....
Yeah this is 20th century thinking about the education systemNo wonder many Singaporeans can't cope with the globalization of the 21st century
Expectations rose at a very steep pace more than ever
Majority of us did not really prepare well for the global age
Why? Because of our education system imposed on us
That's why the spurs are not stuck to our hides and our dictator had to say that's our problem
That's our fucking problem!
After Goh Keng Swee and Toh Chin Chye left PAP, the social system declined gradually for about 25 years now!
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Final Message to the Singaporean Youths
In a rare public interview in 1997 Radio Corporation of Singapore, Dr Toh passionately bemoaned the lack of idealism and creativity among the young and its implications for the future of Singapore. He said:“I would say the generation of the ‘50s and ‘60s took the plunge into politics without ever calculating the costs of the risk and the benefits to be gained. They were driven by ideology. Today’s generation has no culture and averse to taking political risk.
Really, an interest in politics is very necessary for the future.
But I cannot blame the present generations, because they see the heavy-handed response by the government to dissenting views, even though they know that these matters involve their daily lives.
So the result is that we have produced a younger generation who are meek and therefore very calculating.They are less independent-thinking and lack in initiative.
It does not bode well for the emergence of future leaders in politics and business.
Robots and computers can be programmed or if you like, can be trained.
But the trouble, of course, is that computers lack soul and what we need in Singapore is soul. Because it is soul that makes society.”
His words are aptly prophetic to our present society. Are we a soulless society? Maybe we are, but it is heartening to see great men like Dr Toh Chin Chye made passionate dreams for Singapore. Both in the development and building of modern Singapore, Dr Toh was instrumental in making the Singapore we know today. Dr Toh is truly one of the founders of Singapore. -
Today’s generation has no culture and averse to taking political risk.
Really, an interest in politics is very necessary for the future.
they see the heavy-handed response by the government to dissenting views, even though they know that these matters involve their daily lives.
t we have produced a younger generation who are meek and therefore very calculating.They are less independent-thinking and lack in initiative.
does not bode well for the emergence of future leaders in politics and business.
computers lack soul and what we need in Singapore is soul. Because it is soul that makes society.”
all caused by one man - Harry Lee Kuan Yew.
Everyone will agree.
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Originally posted by dare82:
Why bash Gerald Giam?
Go and read his book "Singapore Version 2.0 Alternative Proposals For A Better Singapore"
I agree that there's public safety from crime generally until 2 months ago. But safety as a result of strict laws must always commensurate with safety due to elimination of poverty.
I do not ever want to hear local people turning to crime to make a living as a result of lack of assistance from the government. I warn that if I ever were to hear of innocent people committing crime as a result of being sidelined, I will do something!
People need help for financial assistance had better be helped by government unless they themselves too greedy that they gamble or speculate heavily. If people can't cope with societal expectations, do help them!
But I still think that the PAP system of government will be better replaced so as not to continue such unhappiness with society despite PAP efforts to improve society.
I mean Lee Hsien Loong's proposals of the education system of not chasing the pinnacle this National Day Rally is long overdue and should have been done 20 year ago!
Everybody can write storybooks nowadays, but not many people can earn that right to make their story into a reality.If Gerald Giam is so good like what you have claimed, why he cannot join PAP and then earn that right to make his story into a reality?
Obviously he does not have the people's interests in his heart, he placed his pride above the interests of the people and PAP have no use for such prideful individual who do not know how to place the people's interests above his priorities.
So Gerald Giam is not smart enough to realise his dream for the sake of the people, he is only concerned about realising his dream in his own prideful way.
Do you really think you want to place your support at the hands of such prideful and selfish individuals?
I would not, I would rather place my vote at the hands of people who have already earned their rights to do good for the people and who can do good for the people.
That's why opposition people are not very smart people and they are selfish and not really as people orientated as they project themselves to be.
Don't be fooled by sideshows please, focus on the politicians who are in power to make real changes for you and vote for the politicians who have already earned their rights to make real changes for you.
That is the wisest choice that people should take for the sake of their future generations.
And it definitely makes more sense than to waste your votes on a bunch of prideful, selfish, arrogant individuals who happened to be very good storytellers in reality.
What have these rebels done for the people? They are capable to do many things on for the people, but they aren't doing it because they think it's silly of them to do so or their selfish arrogant pride gets in their way of doing something for the people.
You reap what you sow, if you can't be bothered to sow good deeds for the people, then you can never reap any support from the people.
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Originally posted by parn:
Everybody can write storybooks nowadays, but not many people can earn that right to make their story into a reality.If Gerald Giam is so good like what you have claimed, why he cannot join PAP and then earn that right to make his story into a reality?
Obviously he does not have the people's interests in his heart, he placed his pride above the interests of the people and PAP have no use for such prideful individual who do not know how to place the people's interests above his priorities.
So Gerald Giam is not smart enough to realise his dream for the sake of the people, he is only concerned about realising his dream in his own prideful way.
Do you really think you want to place your support at the hands of such prideful and selfish individuals?
I would not, I would rather place my vote at the hands of people who have already earned their rights to do good for the people and who can do good for the people.
That's why opposition people are not very smart people and they are selfish and not really as people orientated as they project themselves to be.
Don't be fooled by sideshows please, focus on the politicians who are in power to make real changes for you and vote for the politicians who have already earned their rights to make real changes for you.
That is the wisest choice that people should take for the sake of their future generations.
And it definitely makes more sense than to waste your votes on a bunch of prideful, selfish, arrogant individuals who happened to be very good storytellers in reality.
What have these rebels done for the people? They are capable to do many things on for the people, but they aren't doing it because they think it's silly of them to do so or their selfish arrogant pride gets in their way of doing something for the people.
You reap what you sow, if you can't be bothered to sow good deeds for the people, then you can never reap any support from the people.
That's because he shares the same sentiments with many of us to change Sngapore you can't reallychange from within PAP, must change from the outside.
I think if you think like that, you would have opted for the British to stay in power in the 50s rather than to help to fight for self-government.
Or in India, rather than helping Gandhi, you would have also opted for the British to stay in power.
Or in China, rather than helping Sun Yat Sen and Chiang Kai Shek to fight for a Chinese republic, you would have opted for the Qing Dynasty to stay in power.
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Originally posted by dare82:
That's because he shares the same sentiments with many of us to change Sngapore you can't reallychange from within PAP, must change from the outside.
PAP I think is gone case for change already lah.
All the same old stale motherfuckers in power for decades. Hopeless.
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Originally posted by dare82:
That's because he shares the same sentiments with many of us to change Sngapore you can't reallychange from within PAP, must change from the outside.
I think if you think like that, you would have opted for the British to stay in power in the 50s rather than to help to fight for self-government.
Or in India, rather than helping Gandhi, you would have also opted for the British to stay in power.
Or in China, rather than helping Sun Yat Sen and Chiang Kai Shek to fight for a Chinese republic, you would have opted for the Qing Dynasty to stay in power.
Then you must also accept that fact that only winners will have the power to make real changes in their environment.
Losers are helpless until they become winners.
That's the fact of life. And you're being irrational if you chose to side with the losers and put the future of your family at risks.
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Originally posted by parn:
Then you must also accept that fact that only winners will have the power to make real changes in their environment.
Losers are helpless until they become winners.
That's the fact of life. And you're being irrational if you chose to side with the losers and put the future of your family at risks.
Aiya, there must be losers in this world mah, if not where get winners, some are born losers, some naturally losers and some are actually winners but make themselve a loser thru lack of discipline and behavior.But if you are born losers or naturally, a loser, nevermind, lose lose lor, so what, as long as you dun owe, loan, gamble, drink, anyhow sex, spent anyhow, just work a 9 to 5 job, go back relax...its ok.
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Originally posted by Vote PAP OUT to Save SG:
PAP I think is gone case for change already lah.
All the same old stale motherfuckers in power for decades. Hopeless.
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Originally posted by parn:
Then you must also accept that fact that only winners will have the power to make real changes in their environment.
Losers are helpless until they become winners.
so everyone vote oppositions and all problems solved
yeah that's what parn said
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Originally posted by angel7030:
Creative CEO is a Ngee Ann dropout, Street 77th boss is only o level, bengawan solo cake shop boss is only a nonya ah soh, Prime deli boss speak cantonese better than mandarin, no education, OCBC, UOB chairmen speak hokkien at meeting, those cannot understand, have to pack and go. Polar puff and cake boss is only a normal lady with secondary sch education. Not to mention those ah gua with only diploma haircutting and now a millionaires, haiz...so much for education
Wah u know so much about the entrepreneurs in Singapore....becos u are also one right?
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
Wah u know so much about the entrepreneurs in Singapore....becos u are also one right?
sure lah, me also know bread talk 3 CEOs, two from NUS, one with PSLE only, then also that those Bak Kwa bosses, where got education? Entrepreneurship is not about education, is about opportunity and foresight, execution and guts -
Originally posted by angel7030:
sure lah, me also know bread talk 3 CEOs, two from NUS, one with PSLE only, then also that those Bak Kwa bosses, where got education? Entrepreneurship is not about education, is about opportunity and foresight, execution and gutsYup plus lots of luck.....You have a diploma, why u start your pub business? Are u into any other biz before becoming the boss of your present pub? Have u wrote to EDB for any kind of funding?
If opposition win, how will it affect your pub biz?
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Originally posted by parn:
Then you must also accept that fact that only winners will have the power to make real changes in their environment.
Losers are helpless until they become winners.
That's the fact of life. And you're being irrational if you chose to side with the losers and put the future of your family at risks.
Yes
If you want PAP in your life, we are going to be swarmed by foreigners!
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I want to refute parn..
with the direction the pap had set for themselves in recent years, I think it's very difficult to change things from the inside. sometimes it is just impossible(y) hard.
I think competing with pap head on is a good start. it gives the electorate something to choose which benefits them and singapore as a whole. so far gerald's views were commendable. I am not saying all his opinions are good, but so far he had refute some of pap's failed policies properly and suggested some good ones.
for example regarding education, I do agree our system is just too robotic. M&R. I think that is the mantra for students even up till jc (uni even). memorise and regurgitate. although schools had tried to improve by providing a much more holistic education, they can only do that much when the overarching education system is robotic in nature.quite a number of my friends all commented that they seriously have no idea what they are going to do in the future, because they had not found their niche (or interest) even after having examinations for a wide variety of subjects. even ccas had not piqued their interest.
of course. society at large do not get represented by a small group of people but the trend now in singapore is that some of pap's policies are seriously degrading the meaning of being a citizen of singapore (please go read up yourself I lazy to type wall of text).I don't wish for opposition to get a resounding mandate this coming elections however I do wish that they do get a substantial amount of votes so they can force pap to work along with them to improve the lives of citizens here.
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Originally posted by henrykrz:
I want to refute parn..
with the direction the pap had set for themselves in recent years, I think it's very difficult to change things from the inside. sometimes it is just impossible(y) hard.
I think competing with pap head on is a good start. it gives the electorate something to choose which benefits them and singapore as a whole. so far gerald's views were commendable. I am not saying all his opinions are good, but so far he had refute some of pap's failed policies properly and suggested some good ones.
for example regarding education, I do agree our system is just too robotic. M&R. I think that is the mantra for students even up till jc (uni even). memorise and regurgitate. although schools had tried to improve by providing a much more holistic education, they can only do that much when the overarching education system is robotic in nature.quite a number of my friends all commented that they seriously have no idea what they are going to do in the future, because they had not found their niche (or interest) even after having examinations for a wide variety of subjects. even ccas had not piqued their interest.
of course. society at large do not get represented by a small group of people but the trend now in singapore is that some of pap's policies are seriously degrading the meaning of being a citizen of singapore (please go read up yourself I lazy to type wall of text).I don't wish for opposition to get a resounding mandate this coming elections however I do wish that they do get a substantial amount of votes so they can force pap to work along with them to improve the lives of citizens here.
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
Yup plus lots of luck.....You have a diploma, why u start your pub business? Are u into any other biz before becoming the boss of your present pub? Have u wrote to EDB for any kind of funding?
If opposition win, how will it affect your pub biz?
Well, the lack of natural resources in Singapore does not mean elitism!There are other ways to foster creativity and inventiveness in Singapore and the PAP system is too outdated to do so
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Originally posted by henrykrz:
I want to refute parn..
with the direction the pap had set for themselves in recent years, I think it's very difficult to change things from the inside. sometimes it is just impossible(y) hard.
I think competing with pap head on is a good start. it gives the electorate something to choose which benefits them and singapore as a whole. so far gerald's views were commendable. I am not saying all his opinions are good, but so far he had refute some of pap's failed policies properly and suggested some good ones.
for example regarding education, I do agree our system is just too robotic. M&R. I think that is the mantra for students even up till jc (uni even). memorise and regurgitate. although schools had tried to improve by providing a much more holistic education, they can only do that much when the overarching education system is robotic in nature.quite a number of my friends all commented that they seriously have no idea what they are going to do in the future, because they had not found their niche (or interest) even after having examinations for a wide variety of subjects. even ccas had not piqued their interest.
of course. society at large do not get represented by a small group of people but the trend now in singapore is that some of pap's policies are seriously degrading the meaning of being a citizen of singapore (please go read up yourself I lazy to type wall of text).I don't wish for opposition to get a resounding mandate this coming elections however I do wish that they do get a substantial amount of votes so they can force pap to work along with them to improve the lives of citizens here.
you have a progressive view of politics.
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Originally posted by parn:
Everybody can write storybooks nowadays, but not many people can earn that right to make their story into a reality.If Gerald Giam is so good like what you have claimed, why he cannot join PAP and then earn that right to make his story into a reality?
Obviously he does not have the people's interests in his heart, he placed his pride above the interests of the people and PAP have no use for such prideful individual who do not know how to place the people's interests above his priorities.
So Gerald Giam is not smart enough to realise his dream for the sake of the people, he is only concerned about realising his dream in his own prideful way.
Do you really think you want to place your support at the hands of such prideful and selfish individuals?
I would not, I would rather place my vote at the hands of people who have already earned their rights to do good for the people and who can do good for the people.
That's why opposition people are not very smart people and they are selfish and not really as people orientated as they project themselves to be.
Don't be fooled by sideshows please, focus on the politicians who are in power to make real changes for you and vote for the politicians who have already earned their rights to make real changes for you.
That is the wisest choice that people should take for the sake of their future generations.
And it definitely makes more sense than to waste your votes on a bunch of prideful, selfish, arrogant individuals who happened to be very good storytellers in reality.
What have these rebels done for the people? They are capable to do many things on for the people, but they aren't doing it because they think it's silly of them to do so or their selfish arrogant pride gets in their way of doing something for the people.
You reap what you sow, if you can't be bothered to sow good deeds for the people, then you can never reap any support from the people.
The question for me to you is.... why must he join PAP????
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Originally posted by Junyang700:
The question for me to you is.... why must he join PAP????
Easiest way for him to climb through the hierarchy and gain real power to be able to implement real changes to benefit the people.The best way to make changes to a successful ruling party is to join them and make real changes in them from the inside out.
Is that not the reason why he desire to be a politician in the first place?
Ohh....does he has other more important reasons that are beneficial to himself more than the people he is going to represent?
I see.
