"This set me thinking back to 2001
during the general elections when I was campaigning at a market in
Jurong East with Dr Chee Soon Juan. Then-prime minister Goh Chok Tong
had showed up to campaign for the PAP.
Dr Chee had raised the issue of Singapore's secretive US$10 billion loan-pledge to Suharto just before the corrupt Indonesian dictator was toppled in May 1998.
Upon seeing Mr Goh, Dr Chee asked him “Where is our money?” referring to the US$10 billion. Mr Goh, without saying a word, pointed to his pocket and waved us away, giving the impression that the money had landed there.
The media seized on the exchange to portray Dr Chee as gangster-like. MediaCorp's edited footage made it look like the SDP secretary-general was tailgating and harassing the prime minister with the loudhailer.
This
was not what happened. We were outnumbered by those in white and
drowned out by chants of "PAP! PAP!" Dr Chee had to raise his voice to
make himself heard."
This excerpt is taken from the infamous 3in1 kopitiam, an exchange between two contributors.
http://forums.delphiforums.com/3in1kopitiam/messages?msg=40765.9
Perharps this is the real truth?
wha, so long ago..that time i was 11 years old only..so now, where is the US 10 billions?? should change to Reminbi..
Originally posted by Askingyouto:"This set me thinking back to 2001 during the general elections when I was campaigning at a market in Jurong East with Dr Chee Soon Juan. Then-prime minister Goh Chok Tong had showed up to campaign for the PAP.
Dr Chee had raised the issue of Singapore's secretive US$10 billion loan-pledge to Suharto just before the corrupt Indonesian dictator was toppled in May 1998.
Upon seeing Mr Goh, Dr Chee asked him “Where is our money?” referring to the US$10 billion. Mr Goh, without saying a word, pointed to his pocket and waved us away, giving the impression that the money had landed there.
The media seized on the exchange to portray Dr Chee as gangster-like. MediaCorp's edited footage made it look like the SDP secretary-general was tailgating and harassing the prime minister with the loudhailer.
This was not what happened. We were outnumbered by those in white and drowned out by chants of "PAP! PAP!" Dr Chee had to raise his voice to make himself heard."This excerpt is taken from the infamous 3in1 kopitiam, an exchange between two contributors.
http://forums.delphiforums.com/3in1kopitiam/messages?msg=40765.9
Perharps this is the real truth?
So Dr. Chee allowed the money to be loaned or he only found out after the money was loaned?
How did he found out? And why didn't he find out earlier?
My guess is Dr. Chee knew about the deal and he allowed the money to be loaned and when things goes wrong, he took on the opportunity to take a swipe at the government.
You won't see the truth coming from Dr. Chee, there's always an agenda behind it. And I don't need to say more to affirm that.
Lou Goh is not important in the parliament,i dont know why some ppl keep mention him.
Originally posted by parn:
So Dr. Chee allowed the money to be loaned or he only found out after the money was loaned?How did he found out? And why didn't he find out earlier?
My guess is Dr. Chee knew about the deal and he allowed the money to be loaned and when things goes wrong, he took on the opportunity to take a swipe at the government.
You won't see the truth coming from Dr. Chee, there's always an agenda behind it. And I don't need to say more to affirm that.
my guess is dr chee, who wasn't in parliament, would never had the authority or means to allow or disallow any money
Originally posted by Zweiz:my guess is dr chee, who wasn't in parliament, would never had the authority or means to allow or disallow any money
The how Dr. Chee know about the money?
Don't tell me Prataman got drunk at PAP D & D and revealed to Dr. Chee?
Originally posted by parn:
The how Dr. Chee know about the money?Don't tell me Prataman got drunk at PAP D & D and revealed to Dr. Chee?
he read it on sgforums lor...just like i read about all the gundam we have lor
Originally posted by Tanrave:Lou Goh is not important in the parliament,i dont know why some ppl keep mention him.
Another white elephant from PAP. This old goose is expensive to keep.
Originally posted by onźźa:
Another white elephant from PAP. This old goose is expensive to keep.
Ahaha,u were right.
But then again,i think he is a sheep,not goose.
Dr Chi really helps pap to gain support.
Making a opposition looks bad image.
Is he a gynae? Dr Chee
Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):
he read it on sgforums lor...just like i read about all the gundam we have lor
LOL...
Originally posted by angel7030:Is he a gynae? Dr Chee
Why Angel, gonna take appointment with dr che?
appointment with Dr Chee??? better not, later he see my PAP tattoo sure get angry one..
Originally posted by onźźa:
Another white elephant from PAP. This old goose is expensive to keep.
Sure it is...
Originally posted by parn:
The how Dr. Chee know about the money?Don't tell me Prataman got drunk at PAP D & D and revealed to Dr. Chee?
1) one 'knowing' about the loan doesn't mean one have the authority to allow or disallow the loan
2) the us 5 billion loan was reported in newspapers on 1997 including st, whole singapore (if they read st) knows
3) here's the timeline
1997 - us 5 billion loan to indonesia (suharto was president then)
1998 - suharto resigned
2000 - suharto investigated for embezzling funds & corruption
2001 - see ts 1st post
Originally posted by Askingyouto:"This set me thinking back to 2001 during the general elections when I was campaigning at a market in Jurong East with Dr Chee Soon Juan. Then-prime minister Goh Chok Tong had showed up to campaign for the PAP.
Dr Chee had raised the issue of Singapore's secretive US$10 billion loan-pledge to Suharto just before the corrupt Indonesian dictator was toppled in May 1998.
Upon seeing Mr Goh, Dr Chee asked him “Where is our money?” referring to the US$10 billion. Mr Goh, without saying a word, pointed to his pocket and waved us away, giving the impression that the money had landed there.
The media seized on the exchange to portray Dr Chee as gangster-like. MediaCorp's edited footage made it look like the SDP secretary-general was tailgating and harassing the prime minister with the loudhailer.
This was not what happened. We were outnumbered by those in white and drowned out by chants of "PAP! PAP!" Dr Chee had to raise his voice to make himself heard."This excerpt is taken from the infamous 3in1 kopitiam, an exchange between two contributors.
http://forums.delphiforums.com/3in1kopitiam/messages?msg=40765.9
Perharps this is the real truth?
yu believe in chee soon juan???
do u ? have u met him ? i haven't.
we all know CSJ from the media, which is biased.
As a spectator, i would like to see CSJ could publicly debate w any one from PAP, showing live on tv. (man to man, no sueing after).
i can say no one from PAP have balls to do it.
if our sport man don't compete against other countries in asian games, how good can u fair ?
u can't judge using previous years achievement.