Nuclear Power Plant in SG?
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its definitely a strategic business venture...and great returns if it is successful
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it could spell the end of Singapore
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Doesn't matter, singapore is technically dead already. You can't kill the dead.
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I will say, if for the next 3 years, there is no changes in immigration policies to control and reduce foreigners, lowering of property and cost of living, then we are technically dead. We may have to change Singapore name into the United Nation of Asia Allies.
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Originally posted by likeyou:
Trust me...sure increase.I never heard anything decrease, only increase.
but hdb resale price decrease. but not gov $$. so gov dun care -
Originally posted by Shotgun:
Nuclear plants are safe, and have a good track record. So far, none "blew" up in a mushroom cloud. Chernobyl was a Soviet Reactor, and if anyone of you ever bought any product made in a socialist economy, you will know its quality is horrible.
On the other hand, gas power plants have a greater propensity to blow up due to its explosive nature.
I think the only problem with building a nuclear power plant is a matter of lead time for construction, international safety approvals etc. It can take 10 - 25 years... who knows whether by then the output will be sufficient or not.
Although there are no catastrophic Chernobyl-esque explosions ever since the turn of the century, one can never assume that there are no cover-ups of negligence by private or even government nuclear companies. As can be seen in this link, there are smaller incidents that do not make it into world news headlines. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_civilian_nuclear_accidents)
With nuclear materiel, even a small radioactive leak will be enough to contaminate groundwater which even the best osmosis procedures from Hyflux cannot fix.
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Like any SG policy, it reeks of business interests. Obviously, there's going to be lots of money involved and any environmental or social benefits will be peripheral.
The nuclear option isn't really renewable since uranium or plutonium could be said to be limited. And even if we extended the lifespan of the nuclear option through other fuels like thorium, the high-cost associated with it doesn't make it a solution if the goal is energy-independence, liberating a society from energy and money interests.
News of advances in solar technology, here, here, here and here, constantly promise us low-cost, abundant, renewable energy. However, they rarely make their way into the mass market, available to the majority of society. Why? Could it be that it isn't in the interests of energy companies to give people access to abundant energy? If energy were in such abundance that it becomes cheaply available like how coke is cheaper than water in some countries, wouldn't that be an incentive against promoting and developing solar power? In that same breath, what does it say about a system that intentionally suppresses efficiency for the sake of monetary profit?
The alternative of solar, wind, tidal, wave and geothermal could easily power the world if the establishment were really set on doing it. But in an age of bigger and bigger governments, why would you want to liberate people, which might lead them to question authority. People are easier to manage when stressed by trying to meet the cost of living (WTF is that?! We have to pay simply to live?), chained to their jobs.
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only bthe strongest will prevail...the rest are cannon fodder.
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By the time nuclear plant build,i would probably be in other countries,n if a nuclear disaster hit Singapore,i would be watching it from abroad.
Hmm....actually,its quite "spectacular" to see so many ppl die on an island.
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And Lee Kuan Yew n his son LHL n their PAP ministers would be blamed n laughed across the world for their short-sighted n naive view of the potential nuclear disaster.
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Originally posted by angel7030:
it could spell the end of Singapore
Where got end of spore?New chapters coming. New species new party form.
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Originally posted by Tanrave:
And Lee Kuan Yew n his son LHL n their PAP ministers would be blamed n laughed across the world for their short-sighted n naive view of the potential nuclear disaster.
By the time it implemented, will be another 10 to 20yrs time, will mm lee and his son still around laughing? -
Oh,and talking about "Experts",....How many times have u,LKY n ur son LHL n ur Pig brains PAP ministers get cheated by ur "Experts" or "Expats" advisors?Huh?How many times u guys have listen to them in foreign investment and in the end lose your money in it?
Did ur "Experts" or "Expats" take up Singapore citizenship n live "Permanently" in here?If they do,how many of them?I bet after cheating the PAP government money,they run away n hide in their countries enjoying their lives.
So now,LHL listen to these "Experts" or "Expats" who say they can build nuclear plant for Singapore n it would be safe.But then,do they stay behind n live with us together in here for the rest of their lives,just to make sure its safe?No,they will earn the money after building the nuclear plant,n went back to their countries,call some hookers n enjoy their lives.
And if any disasters happen,they will just said"Hey i dont know,i have already give instruction to the engineers in Singapore.How the hell the nuclear reactors blow up,i have no idea,i am not going to be responsible for it."Then shrug their shoulders n carry on their lives.
Then what can LKY,LHL n the Pig Brain PAP ministers,LPPL lor.
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Experts?Expert my lanjiao ah!!!Experts wont make mistakes is it?Experts are "Saint" is it?
Many a times,those so-called "Experts" make more mistakes than normal ppl,i tell u.
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Originally posted by likeyou:
Where got end of spore?New chapters coming. New species new party form.
foam party at sentosa again? -
FOAM PARTY WHERE MOST PEOPLE ARE ALL BOTAK DUE TO SIDE EFFECTS OF CARELESS PEOPLE WERKIN AT NEAQRBY NUCLEAR PLANT.
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quite dangerous to have nuclear power plant in singapore
during war time, enemy just fire one missile at the nuclear power plant and we will be totally wipe out.
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not worried bout wars n nuclear missile.....just worried everybody end up at foam party all looking like gollum with a few strands of long hair n missing teeth from radioactive leaks....its alright...its safe......just that u lose a few tufts of hair here n there n look funny.
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Originally posted by enghou:
quite dangerous to have nuclear power plant in singapore
during war time, enemy just fire one missile at the nuclear power plant and we will be totally wipe out.
dun worry, only the Lees and my house got lead bunkers that can evade nuclear attack. We will still be around. -
And i believe if a nuclear plant is built in Singapore,the land property prices will also drop drastically.As no one would want to live in a place permanently where nuclear disaster can strike anytime n have nowhere to run.
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Contrary to popular belief, Nuclear Reactors these days are much safer, especially the Gen 3 and Gen 3+ that are emerging, as well as the Gen 4 reactors, which is currently in building in Japan and China. Also, radioactivity are contained well within the cooling waters and the waste casings. The wastes casing can withstand a train wreck with nothing but a slight scratch as evidence and it requires almost no maintenance. The stigma of Chernobyl Disaster still exists BUT there has only been 1 Nuclear Reactor accident in the past century with more than 5 fatalities, as compared to the hundreds by other energy-production facilities like Coal and Gas power plants.
The Chernobyl Disaster is due likely to its reactor design which has been vastly improved upon and unlikely that it will be targetted as systems these days are geared towards PREVENTING the processing of uranium waste into weapons-grade enriched nuclear material.
I support the existence of nuclear power plants as it will significantly reduce emissions and also electricity bills, which in turn will gear towards increased manufacturing and 24/7 systems such as business and trade, driving the economy to another level.
In fact, with recycling of nuclear waste, we can expect to extend the world's power life expectancy by a few hundred years, alongside with existing fossil fuel-based reactors.
And if there's war, with or without a Nuclear Plant, what are Singapore chances in surviving either way, especially with the existence of long-range artillery in China, India, N. Korea and the mobile naval/aerial fleet of other countries + compactness of our city buildings.
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Originally posted by Toiletries:
The stigma of Chernobyl Disaster still exists BUT there has only been 1 Nuclear Reactor accident in the past century with more than 5 fatalities, as compared to the hundreds by other energy-production facilities like Coal and Gas power plants.
The Chernobyl Disaster is due likely to its reactor design which has been vastly improved upon and unlikely that it will be targetted as systems these days are geared towards PREVENTING the processing of uranium waste into weapons-grade enriched nuclear material.
Reactor design or safety systems regardless, the cause of the Chernobyl Disaster - just like many other smaller incidents in advanced countries like Japan - was caused by the human factor - negligence, ineptly equipped or trained operators, etc. - in Chernobly's case, Wikipedia has this to say:
In this view, the catastrophic accident was caused by gross violations of operating rules and regulations. "During preparation and testing of the turbine generator under run-down conditions using the auxiliary load, personnel disconnected a series of technical protection systems and breached the most important operational safety provisions for conducting a technical exercise."[58] This was probably due to their lack of knowledge of nuclear reactor physics and engineering, as well as lack of experience and training. According to these allegations, at the time of the accident the reactor was being operated with many key safety systems turned off, most notably the Emergency Core Cooling System (ECCS), LAR (Local Automatic control system), and AZ (emergency power reduction system). Personnel had an insufficiently detailed understanding of technical procedures involved with the nuclear reactor, and knowingly ignored regulations to speed test completion.
In the nuke business, there is no room for "honest mistakes."
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Originally posted by Toiletries:
I support the existence of nuclear power plants as it will significantly reduce emissions and also electricity bills,
U think if the nuclear plant is built,the government will reduce our electricity bills?Come on,it is the PAP we are talking about.
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Think the only problem is that it is another money making excercise by PAPist, it is fine, I just be a gollum with bald hair and empty eye sockets when the nuclear plant explode. All these years of PAPist rule has already reduced me to one already, only now I can still see the horrors, the bleak future of Sinkapore with my eyes.
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Come on folks, by the time something like this hits the news, it probably means the decision is already made.
Should it even surprise you all that SG may already own nuclear reactors, hosted somewhere far away...