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What is your problem with mainlanders ? Do you think that you are the first people in Singapore ? First in was Malaysian, then British and then Chinese. Do you think that you are British ?
Hahaaha funny thread. Hey Singapore welcome to the first world. There is nothing going on here that isn’t going on in any other developed nation.
The truth is that Singapore’s economy is much more advanced than the population can sustain. No Foreigners = No First world, modern, economically stable Singapore.
If you want to get rid of the Foreigners then you better get to breading.
Sinkapore dismal breading is due to severe erectile dysfunction by the local males and masculine characteristics of local females. It is a " you die, your own business world" out here so local guys can't errect while girls become guys to survive. Of course local girls can always find Western men as they usually are "BIGGER" and should have no problem at the call of duty. The local guys can only suck thumb and become " The Last of the Mohicans".
The governement here suppress dissenting voices, locking up oppositions people and they control all the media in this Sinkapore Inc. There no room for alternative opinions. Locals look at this kind of environment and wonder if this is the kind of country they want to bring up their children in, as Slaves for the government? First World ?
Our wages are super low, hardly the kind that you can ever imagine. We are still competing with India and China for the kind of things we produce. What innovation do we have to command top dollars for anything we do? Our stupid government even tells us to be ," Cheaper, Better and Faster." They even openly declare that they are deaf to all criticisms. First World?
Our brainless governement only know how to suck up to MNCs and provide them with cheap labour, in schools, you can see foreigners getting all the scholarships while the locals have to cough up hundreds of thousands of dollars to send their children abroad. Why is that so? Foreigners still have only a vague idea of how the government here works, and they are grateful to the government, so the government is actually breading their own loyal supporters at the expense of the locals. The locals are doomed to extinction. First World?
Go to this website and take a look at the kind of people the government is importing and you will know it is only buying supporters for the survival of their own party. First World?
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=149829531713549&set=o.153492722129
The incentives given out by the government is so low that it is not worth any one to consider those things when giving birth, the governement only knows how to suck up to big bosses. The labour law in Sinkpore is so dismal that people get worried if they go on maternity leave. Companies only get a slap on the wrist if they flout any labour law so locals can only suck it all up, don't forget, dissenting voices will be ignored and if you disgust the government so much, you will suffer at the creative hands of the government. The judicial system here only work for their paymaster , the government and will rule always in their favour. First World?
The government have even robbed the people of their means of retirement through the delay of withdrawn of CPF, a retirement fund or if someones wants to buy flats, their retirement fund will be wiped out. With low wages, influx of cheap labour, non-existence means to survive in old age, we don't even have adequete medical benefits, if there's any serious illness, I think throwing yourself down to MRT tracks will be more worth it than dragging your family into debts. Hospitals will sent people to chase after you if you cannnot pay your bills. First World?
The term, "First World" is only a term for failed Western Countries
The West thought they could change China just as they have defeated Soviet Union with money but China is a different sparring partner. You look around and see, how the West can only grovel at the feet of China and meekly toe the line. They virtually bankrupted themselves letting go lots of manufacturing jobs and only consuming goods from China. Britain now can only share aircraft carriers with France and even their Queen have to spend wisely while China is buying aircraft carrirers. I think the Queen is poorer than even some of the people in China.
The problems facing Sinkapore is very grave and has some resemblance to the West but it differs on some major points, so I would advise you to read in depth into the woes facing my fellow countrymen, you got to stay off mainstream media and look harder as I've stated earlier, the media is controlled by the government.
And, yes, hahaha, I'm a funny guy as I started this thread. I'm just a horny loafer with excessive amount of time on my hands.Ooops, I've got all my man juice on my mouse.
Originally posted by Gary oak77:
What kind of people do Singaporeans welcome here then ?
Sinkaporeans normally welcome all kinds of people, as Sinkaporeans likes to travel so they have a very broad knowledge of different cultures. The problem now is that our country is overcrowded at this point, everyone is jostling for space, plus the unstable future facing locals because of over importing of foreign labour which ranged from the low skilled all the way to even executives and manager positions, so they are feeling the heat at the moment.
Generally if you have the right skills and you prove yourself to be a hardworking guy who will respect our culture, I don't see why you will not be welcome here. Locals are not blind, the problems with some of the so called foreign talents is that they can't really perform their jobs adequately and some even have a more atrocious command of English than me, and they are sometimes paid more than locals. LOL
I believe that everything has a limitation, a threshold point before the bubble burst, today, the economy is brewing well, and that almost everyone is employed, be it top or low jobs, with paid, most will spend and therefore consumer index will be good, and that help to further strengthen the economy. However, as said, once a the threshold is met, everything will tumbles down, the rich leaves, the poor go jobless, the business become poor. In most of our recession, we had managed to get of it on our own, meaning Singaporeans tightened their belts, bite the bullet, take the cut and get over the tide of recession, we had seen the last one in 2009 where we had a difficult times and the lost was tremedous, the most worst of the decade recession. But not to worry, we will be getting a far more worst one coming soon, cos recession aren't going to be like those years where singaporeans are willing to give and take, the next recession will affect the FT, FW or so call 40% of Foreign workforce, how they react will be totally different from singaporeans. I bet most will go home and leave an empty shell here for singaporeans to pick up.
Originally posted by Askingyouto:Sinkapore dismal breading is due to severe erectile dysfunction by the local males and masculine characteristics of local females. It is a " you die, your own business world" out here so local guys can't errect while girls become guys to survive. Of course local girls can always find Western men as they usually are "BIGGER" and should have no problem at the call of duty. The local guys can only suck thumb and become " The Last of the Mohicans".
The governement here suppress dissenting voices, locking up oppositions people and they control all the media in this Sinkapore Inc. There no room for alternative opinions. Locals look at this kind of environment and wonder if this is the kind of country they want to bring up their children in, as Slaves for the government? First World ?
Our wages are super low, hardly the kind that you can ever imagine. We are still competing with India and China for the kind of things we produce. What innovation do we have to command top dollars for anything we do? Our stupid government even tells us to be ," Cheaper, Better and Faster." They even openly declare that they are deaf to all criticisms. First World?
Our brainless governement only know how to suck up to MNCs and provide them with cheap labour, in schools, you can see foreigners getting all the scholarships while the locals have to cough up hundreds of thousands of dollars to send their children abroad. Why is that so? Foreigners still have only a vague idea of how the government here works, and they are grateful to the government, so the government is actually breading their own loyal supporters at the expense of the locals. The locals are doomed to extinction. First World?
Go to this website and take a look at the kind of people the government is importing and you will know it is only buying supporters for the survival of their own party. First World?
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=149829531713549&set=o.153492722129
The incentives given out by the government is so low that it is not worth any one to consider those things when giving birth, the governement only knows how to suck up to big bosses. The labour law in Sinkpore is so dismal that people get worried if they go on maternity leave. Companies only get a slap on the wrist if they flout any labour law so locals can only suck it all up, don't forget, dissenting voices will be ignored and if you disgust the government so much, you will suffer at the creative hands of the government. The judicial system here only work for their paymaster , the government and will rule always in their favour. First World?
The government have even robbed the people of their means of retirement through the delay of withdrawn of CPF, a retirement fund or if someones wants to buy flats, their retirement fund will be wiped out. With low wages, influx of cheap labour, non-existence means to survive in old age, we don't even have adequete medical benefits, if there's any serious illness, I think throwing yourself down to MRT tracks will be more worth it than dragging your family into debts. Hospitals will sent people to chase after you if you cannnot pay your bills. First World?
The term, "First World" is only a term for failed Western Countries
The West thought they could change China just as they have defeated Soviet Union with money but China is a different sparring partner. You look around and see, how the West can only grovel at the feet of China and meekly toe the line. They virtually bankrupted themselves letting go lots of manufacturing jobs and only consuming goods from China. Britain now can only share aircraft carriers with France and even their Queen have to spend wisely while China is buying aircraft carrirers. I think the Queen is poorer than even some of the people in China.
The problems facing Sinkapore is very grave and has some resemblance to the West but it differs on some major points, so I would advise you to read in depth into the woes facing my fellow countrymen, you got to stay off mainstream media and look harder as I've stated earlier, the media is controlled by the government.
And, yes, hahaha, I'm a funny guy as I started this thread. I'm just a horny loafer with excessive amount of time on my hands.Ooops, I've got all my man juice on my mouse.
Ok fist off, for some reason I think that you are a little deeper than just a horny loafer with excessive amount of time on your hands.
You are obviously a bright person who has put a lot of real thought into this subject. But after reading your post I still don’t see anything happening in Singapore that doesn’t happen anyplace else in the world.
Look at the Muslim uprisings in France. Look at the monumental illegal immigrant problem in the US. Look at the overwhelming number of Pakistanis in the UK. And all of these groups are trying with success to change the culture of whatever country they are in. You have no idea how angry I get when I see a Mexican or Honduran flag being flown in the US.
There is no nation on the planet whose government truly represents the people. It’s a wicked cycle of self preservation. Members of Parliament, Congress, Senate or whatever the group is called are loyal only to the people who put them in power and that is almost always businesses, unions or some other group. There is no reason to represent the common citizen.
Your comment about allowing all of the immigrants for votes is also fare but the exact same thing is going on in the US. As I speak there are plans in the works for a blanket amnesty for ALL illegals in the US. And yes this is 100% about votes.
Originally posted by Calmday:Ok fist off, for some reason I think that you are a little deeper than just a horny loafer with excessive amount of time on your hands.
You are obviously a bright person who has put a lot of real thought into this subject. But after reading your post I still don’t see anything happening in Singapore that doesn’t happen anyplace else in the world.
Look at the Muslim uprisings in France. Look at the monumental illegal immigrant problem in the US. Look at the overwhelming number of Pakistanis in the UK. And all of these groups are trying with success to change the culture of whatever country they are in. You have no idea how angry I get when I see a Mexican or Honduran flag being flown in the US.
There is no nation on the planet whose government truly represents the people. It’s a wicked cycle of self preservation. Members of Parliament, Congress, Senate or whatever the group is called are loyal only to the people who put them in power and that is almost always businesses, unions or some other group. There is no reason to represent the common citizen.
Your comment about allowing all of the immigrants for votes is also fare but the exact same thing is going on in the US. As I speak there are plans in the works for a blanket amnesty for ALL illegals in the US. And yes this is 100% about votes.
I guess I'm mistaken about your good intentions, but thanks for sharing about what's happening in other parts of the world.
I'm also a bit curious and bewildered when I first heard about the amnesty for illegals immigrants, so it's another rich men call for more profits. Democracy has been betrayed by Capitalism. Democracy nutured and protected Capitalism from Communism but Capitalism has grown too big for any country to handle.
The only people who are going to be safe in the future will be rich people. We will be exploited even more by them and I think Communism or some other form close to those ideology will rear its' head again. The world seems to be moving forward to another kind of revolution to overthrow the rich and the powerful, to upset the balance of power once more, this will happen when the boiling point has been reached, but I don't think I'll be around. It is currently not obvious yet.
One of the most glaring problem is that everyone talks about democracy like it's free and everyone can use it, well, it's not. Sometimes sacrifice have to be made.
I applaud Google co-founder Sergey Brin to show his disapproval of China censorship of the internet, but I'm not sure how long can Google withstand those kind of pressure. Will Google eject their co-founder when their earnings start to drop big time? Already the Baidu chairman is gloating about how his company has profitted from Google China exit. A very rich China guy openly throttling Democracy, tramping on the civil rights of his own country men for the sake of profits. I see more dark times ahead for people anywhere around the world and when more rich businesses starts to run China and when that China extend its diplomatic pressure around the world, woe be unto all nations.
These are big times for big leaders, leaders who will have to walk an even tighter road than what History has been written so far to balance the integrity of a Nation, the survival of a Nation without losing her soul to the money men.
We, as citizens, despite all odds, still have to remind those people to remember their duty to safeguard the nation at all times, and with a sense of self-sacrifice to the nation.
So far from what leaders we have, I can only give them a big "F". They are only money faced little people.
And, yeah, regarding the Mexican flag thing, the First Amendment has been rightly abused by aliens, no respect at all for the country that hosted them. I, myself, don't really go out much, too much aliens around in my country, but I like China girls, they are cute.
well, frankly speaking, my china gals also prefer singapore men, they are more clean, well behave, timid, easily con and got money to spare.
not to worry about capitalism and the exploitation of poor, history shall repeat itself, it just take another mao or stalin to overturn the table again, in the earlier 1900++ china also have big rich business people in peking, nanjin, shanghai etc , and those rural area are full of poor peoples, that gives mao the chance to recruit all these poors to stage a revolution by promising a fair share of wealth. Now, back to the same again, so those who fought and died in the earlier revolution must be cursing and crying if they see what happen today, same same, just different leaders and type of rich and poor. It just take one man to stand out to lead the revolutionary flag of justice, fair and impartial rules, maybe you can be one of them.
Well we all know what happens when "everyone gets there fare share of the wealth". The whole nation becomes a broke shithole. Strongly enough, the communist nations that are succeeding are doing so with capitalism.
Askingyouto. I don’t disagree with anything that you said in your last post. I was going to disagree with your comment about communism rearing its head again but then I thought about what’s going on in the US with the election of obama.
Communism is actually a very good and better system than democracy, the hindsight is that the creator fail to understand that human with all their greed and carving, cannot take up such system. It shows that the fall of communism is human faults. The creator had created communism merely out of a idealogy/theory, in practice, it failed.
Originally posted by Askingyouto:I guess I'm mistaken about your good intentions, but thanks for sharing about what's happening in other parts of the world.
I'm also a bit curious and bewildered when I first heard about the amnesty for illegals immigrants, so it's another rich men call for more profits. Democracy has been betrayed by Capitalism. Democracy nutured and protected Capitalism from Communism but Capitalism has grown too big for any country to handle.
The only people who are going to be safe in the future will be rich people. We will be exploited even more by them and I think Communism or some other form close to those ideology will rear its' head again. The world seems to be moving forward to another kind of revolution to overthrow the rich and the powerful, to upset the balance of power once more, this will happen when the boiling point has been reached, but I don't think I'll be around. It is currently not obvious yet.
One of the most glaring problem is that everyone talks about democracy like it's free and everyone can use it, well, it's not. Sometimes sacrifice have to be made.
I applaud Google co-founder Sergey Brin to show his disapproval of China censorship of the internet, but I'm not sure how long can Google withstand those kind of pressure. Will Google eject their co-founder when their earnings start to drop big time? Already the Baidu chairman is gloating about how his company has profitted from Google China exit. A very rich China guy openly throttling Democracy, tramping on the civil rights of his own country men for the sake of profits. I see more dark times ahead for people anywhere around the world and when more rich businesses starts to run China and when that China extend its diplomatic pressure around the world, woe be unto all nations.
These are big times for big leaders, leaders who will have to walk an even tighter road than what History has been written so far to balance the integrity of a Nation, the survival of a Nation without losing her soul to the money men.
We, as citizens, despite all odds, still have to remind those people to remember their duty to safeguard the nation at all times, and with a sense of self-sacrifice to the nation.
So far from what leaders we have, I can only give them a big "F". They are only money faced little people.
And, yeah, regarding the Mexican flag thing, the First Amendment has been rightly abused by aliens, no respect at all for the country that hosted them. I, myself, don't really go out much, too much aliens around in my country, but I like China girls, they are cute.
FYI: no matter how terribly dsiappointing democracy has been, it has never been worse than communism. look at history. this fact alone has proved itself in countless times. it is in human nature that fair distribution can ever be achieved, for it is in the fact that some get paid higher than others that society manages to function successfully. greed will always stand in the way of communism, so while many suffer cos of democracy, many others enjoy the benefits of it while in communism, EVERYONE SUFFERS while the hypocrites at the top laugh and enjoy life.
in communism, fair equality is supposed to work, but what happened? look at stalin, look at vietnam, look at cuba. what happened? the top enjoy life, the rest suffer.
democracy may be lousy, yes, but that's the way of life. communism can never succeed because basic human instinct forbids it.
Originally posted by Casopia-maplesea:FYI: no matter how terribly dsiappointing democracy has been, it has never been worse than communism. look at history. this fact alone has proved itself in countless times. it is in human nature that fair distribution can ever be achieved, for it is in the fact that some get paid higher than others that society manages to function successfully. greed will always stand in the way of communism, so while many suffer cos of democracy, many others enjoy the benefits of it while in communism, EVERYONE SUFFERS while the hypocrites at the top laugh and enjoy life.
in communism, fair equality is supposed to work, but what happened? look at stalin, look at vietnam, look at cuba. what happened? the top enjoy life, the rest suffer.
democracy may be lousy, yes, but that's the way of life. communism can never succeed because basic human instinct forbids it.
I just think all systems will fail in the end but, humans will not stop trying to realign the balance of powers when either side becomes overwhelming. The realigning of powers is happening and is still happening, through seen and unseen changes happening in our world, many different areas, ex. businesses, workforce changes, natural disasters, the different changing fortunes of countries, all these will accumulate to the formation of humans reaction to many different factors, some factors require immediate attentions, some factors are not even known at that particular time.
The human factor is the one that always sets the ball rolling and is also always the one that destroys it. Democracy has served us well, but if you look at how China has sucessfully sidestepped the West democratic overtures, I would just say that certain principals of democracy is just not working. China has read the West move very well.
We, at current time, cannot envisage, another form of system that will be used in the future, but Time has always been full of surprises. I'm not advocating that communism is a good system but those welding communism have adapted far better to the current situation than democracy, so these will be interesting times.
Originally posted by Askingyouto:I just think all systems will fail in the end but, humans will not stop trying to realign the balance of powers when either side becomes overwhelming. The realigning of powers is happening and is still happening, through seen and unseen changes happening in our world, many different areas, ex. businesses, workforce changes, natural disasters, the different changing fortunes of countries, all these will accumulate to the formation of humans reaction to many different factors, some factors require immediate attentions, some factors are not even known at that particular time.
The human factor is the one that always sets the ball rolling and is also always the one that destroys it. Democracy has served us well, but if you look at how China has sucessfully sidestepped the West democratic overtures, I would just say that certain principals of democracy is just not working. China has read the West move very well.
We, at current time, cannot envisage, another form of system that will be used in the future, but Time has always been full of surprises. I'm not advocating that communism is a good system but those welding communism have adapted far better to the current situation than democracy, so these will be interesting times.
Do you really believe that the USA actually is democratic ? The elections are rigged. The USA is far to powerful to be left to the American voter to decide who runs and how to run the country
I heard USA is Demoncratic.
By and large, the ideology of all systems are good in nature, just that men who created it, also took advantage and abuse it. Instead of putting the system to good use and govern, men used the system to get the ultimate gain for themselves.
So many pple not really happy with it.
not all, in most countries, if a govt can satisfy and make the upper 20% class happy, it is enuf for them to carry on, the rest 80% are just mere followers
Isnt england are protesting to their govt that the foreigners are taking over their jobs? Am I right?
Homogenous citizen tends to protest over foreign intruder, our is a multi racial society, it is very difficult to get all together and protest, if you care chinese, you go tell the malay or indian to protest, they said you go ahead, leave us alone, if you're malay, u ask the chinese and indian, they said you're terrorist, if you are indian, you go ask the malay and chinese to participate in protest, they will tell you, ah neh, you gila liao, siao liao. Our genius govt see this as an advantage to them, multiracial works toward their gain, because not being homogenous, we are not united, and that allow the govt to play with us. UNDERSTAND!!
Originally posted by likeyou:Isnt england are protesting to their govt that the foreigners are taking over their jobs? Am I right?
No it's muslims in britain protesting Britain being in Iraq and Afghanistan burning flags.
Originally posted by Gary oak77:
No it's muslims in britain protesting Britain being in Iraq and Afghanistan burning flags.
oic...brits all over their countries...
Originally posted by likeyou:
oic...brits all over their countries...
That is an interesting perpective. I say @#$% them. Pull the troops out and send all the haters of Britain back to their own countries
Originally posted by angel7030:Communism is actually a very good and better system than democracy, the hindsight is that the creator fail to understand that human with all their greed and carving, cannot take up such system. It shows that the fall of communism is human faults. The creator had created communism merely out of a idealogy/theory, in practice, it failed.
It seems to me that communism is good for backward countries as it forces everybody to become educated but once the population is educated then maybe it is time to move on. If the west hadn't aided the taliban during the Russian invasion then islam would have been wiped out and the population would be too educated to go back to what it is now. Most Afghaistanis don't even know why the Americans are there . These bearded fanatics are pretty clueless. Plus their sexual attraction to young boys is a disturbing fact that they want keep quiet as nobody wants to help people like them and they know it
Originally posted by Rambo Wong:
It seems to me that communism is good for backward countries as it forces everybody to become educated but once the population is educated then maybe it is time to move on. If the west hadn't aided the taliban during the Russian invasion then islam would have been wiped out and the population would be too educated to go back to what it is now. Most Afghaistanis don't even know why the Americans are there . These bearded fanatics are pretty clueless. Plus their sexual attraction to young boys is a disturbing fact that they want keep quiet as nobody wants to help people like them and they know it
it is not the communism belongs to backward countries, not just becos you see those commie country become poor, it represent communism is no good, in fact, at University, people study more on communism than demorcracy, they wanted to know how come communism dun work, and the findings were, as i said before, human cannot take such a stringent/strict system, human are an indiscipline lots who like to flirt, free, win, have pride, egos, rich, money...sex...be served and so on.
Even when you talk about religion, no one on this earth can live up and said I follow my religion truthfully, but that does not mean that the religion is bad, just that human cannot take the strict rules of it. You can see priest having sex with minor, you can see muslim drinking, you can see monks raping young gals, you can see indian stealing and fighting each other,...and so on.
People must understand that a system is a system, but if people cannot follow or live up to it, it is not the written system fault, is it human fault, they choose to want a more easy going, can con and cheat world, so they take democracy.
Originally posted by angel7030:
it is not the communism belongs to backward countries, not just becos you see those commie country become poor, it represent communism is no good, in fact, at University, people study more on communism than demorcracy, they wanted to know how come communism dun work, and the findings were, as i said before, human cannot take such a stringent/strict system, human are an indiscipline lots who like to flirt, free, win, have pride, egos, rich, money...sex...be served and so on.Even when you talk about religion, no one on this earth can live up and said I follow my religion truthfully, but that does not mean that the religion is bad, just that human cannot take the strict rules of it. You can see priest having sex with minor, you can see muslim drinking, you can see monks raping young gals, you can see indian stealing and fighting each other,...and so on.
People must understand that a system is a system, but if people cannot follow or live up to it, it is not the written system fault, is it human fault, they choose to want a more easy going, can con and cheat world, so they take democracy.
What is your religion ?