Will votes for opposition increase or decrease in elections?
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Originally posted by tranquilice:
Educate them, tell them what they don't know about PAP, make them see the other side of PAP.There is no need.
It is better for them to see for themselves.
In 10 years time, their sons will kpkb to them why they have to do NS for 12 or more years while "other people" don't have to.
Their daughters will kpkb to them when they can afford a $1 million dollar HDB flat when they are earning a median salary of $3,000 (projected target set by the people at the top in 10 years time).
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And the new citizens will kpkb to the government why cost of living is so high, GST is so high, ERP is so high, minister salaries are so high.
And why they are being replaced by cheaper, better, faster workers.
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Originally posted by trolol:
Since PAP is not transparent, how will we know if the votes are not fixed(by the PAP)?
Just saying.
Robert Ho alleges that Lee Kuan Yew rigged 1963 Elections
In the 1963 GE, LIE KY cheated again. The Barisan was leading by a landslide in the counting, in 30 constituencies out of the 50. Then, PM LEE KY caused an electricity ‘blackout’ around the City Hall counting centre, ordered everyone out, and changed the votes. After 6 hours, when electricity was ‘restored’, LIE ‘won’ by a landslide. Go to the National Library and check the microfilms of all the Chinese and English newspapers then...
http://i-came-i-saw-i-solved-it.blogspot.com/2009/06/rh-on-lky-lhl-wks-cheating-elections.html
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lol. means sure lose what - for the opposition.
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Originally posted by trolol:
lol. means sure lose what - for the opposition.
Based on? -
My guess...slightly more or less than 66.6%.
New citizens will vote for PAP, old pple (make up of huge percentage) will vote for pap, govt pple, dont want to look for jobs pple....left only youngsters and jobless pple...(How many percentage left?)
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Originally posted by likeyou:
My guess...slightly more or less than 66.6%.
New citizens will vote for PAP, old pple (make up of huge percentage) will vote for pap, govt pple, dont want to look for jobs pple....left only youngsters and jobless pple...(How many percentage left?)
Many jobless people out there... Just that most of them are working part time or on a 2 years contract kind of work that they are considered EMPLOYED.. They are technically employed but not gainfully employed.
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Originally posted by likeyou:
My guess...slightly more or less than 66.6%.
New citizens will vote for PAP, old pple (make up of huge percentage) will vote for pap, govt pple, dont want to look for jobs pple....left only youngsters and jobless pple...(How many percentage left?)
It will be less, cannot be more.1991: 61%
1997: 65%
2001: 75% (superb performance thank to 911)
2006: 66% -
2011: 80%, (thank to Casinos)
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Originally posted by angel7030:
2011: 80%, (thank to Casinos)
No, will not be 80%. Even PAP build 100 casinos will also not get 80%. -
PAP performance in elections over the past 50 years.
1955: 55.7%
1959: 54.1%
1963: 46.9%
1968: 86.7%
1972: 70.4%
1976: 74.1%
1980: 77.7%
1984: 64.8%
1988: 63.2%
1991: 61.0%
1997: 65.0%
2001: 75.3%
2006: 66.6%
Source: http://www.singapore-elections.com/
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Originally posted by Vote PAP OUT to Save SG:
Robert Ho alleges that Lee Kuan Yew rigged 1963 Elections
In the 1963 GE, LIE KY cheated again. The Barisan was leading by a landslide in the counting, in 30 constituencies out of the 50. Then, PM LEE KY caused an electricity ‘blackout’ around the City Hall counting centre, ordered everyone out, and changed the votes. After 6 hours, when electricity was ‘restored’, LIE ‘won’ by a landslide. Go to the National Library and check the microfilms of all the Chinese and English newspapers then...
http://i-came-i-saw-i-solved-it.blogspot.com/2009/06/rh-on-lky-lhl-wks-cheating-elections.html
Who is this Robert Ho? I find that the video one in Youtube (On your given link to his blog) is unconvincing as the men is top naked.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQCab3QZbBk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY8LepVK4K8
http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/11/20-years-of-the-grc-a-closer-look-part-one/
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Originally posted by tranquilice:
PAP performance in elections over the past 50 years.
1955: 55.7%
1959: 54.1%
1963: 46.9%
1968: 86.7%
1972: 70.4%
1976: 74.1%
1980: 77.7%
1984: 64.8%
1988: 63.2%
1991: 61.0%
1997: 65.0%
2001: 75.3%
2006: 66.6%
Source: http://www.singapore-elections.com/
2011: 90% , anyone?
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Originally posted by tranquilice:
It will be less, cannot be more.1991: 61%
1997: 65%
2001: 75% (superb performance thank to 911)
2006: 66%
I do hope the percentage will drop further even though PAP win this GE. A drop will make them wake up and sit and think hard! -
Originally posted by charlize:
2011: 90% , anyone?
You didn't saw my post above? I already said 80% not possible. -
Originally posted by likeyou:
I do hope the percentage will drop further even though PAP win this GE. A drop will make them wake up and sit and think hard!
2011: PAP 55% - 60% -
Originally posted by charlize:
2011: 90% , anyone?
Siao. Highest record was 86% in 1972 or 1968 if I did not recalled wrongly.
Well, they can build 1 casino but with 75% or above support, that is to
1:) Restore that fucking free shuttle bus
2:) Remove that fucking levy gravy.
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Originally posted by Fire Engine:
Siao. Highest record was 86% in 1972 or 1968 if I did not recalled wrongly.
Well, they can build 1 casino but with 75% or above support, that is to
1:) Restore that fucking free shuttle bus
2:) Remove that fucking levy gravy.
The reason is was cancelled was because they feel more people are against gambling... but the fact is got free bus... uncles aunties... working adults.... happy...
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Originally posted by tranquilice:
2011: PAP 55% - 60%I agree with you.... should be around there... =)
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Originally posted by Junyang700:
I agree with you.... should be around there... =)
I disagree. 60% ~ 65% is likely (A.k.a a slight drop), unless LHL, wants to be sacked and go work as DHL.
The lowest record ever since PAP on rule, is 61% by Goh. The people here speculating PAP votes will increase, and I may agree to some extent is due to:
1: It seemed that virgin PM has less support. PM Goh is an example
2: Now got FTs converted citizens to replace the "real" Sinkies, so whatever opposition votes was countered by these people.
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Originally posted by Fire Engine:
I disagree. 60% ~ 65% is likely (A.k.a a slight drop), unless LHL, wants to be sacked and go work as DHL.
The lowest record ever since PAP on rule, is 61% by Goh. The people here speculating PAP votes will increase, and I may agree to some extent is due to:
1: It seemed that virgin PM has less support. PM Goh is an example
2: Now got FTs converted citizens to replace the "real" Sinkies, so whatever opposition votes was countered by these people.
You got your point there too...
If its higher... one thing is clear.... all the foreigners you see here and are complaining about are actually the same as you... they are singaporeans....and not all the tiongs that you complain.... -
Originally posted by Fire Engine:
I disagree. 60% ~ 65% is likely (A.k.a a slight drop), unless LHL, wants to be sacked and go work as DHL.
The lowest record ever since PAP on rule, is 61% by Goh. The people here speculating PAP votes will increase, and I may agree to some extent is due to:
1: It seemed that virgin PM has less support. PM Goh is an example
2: Now got FTs converted citizens to replace the "real" Sinkies, so whatever opposition votes was countered by these people.
Ok, adjust to between 57% - 63%.You cannot compare PM Goh with PM LHL. Different style of leadership.
Unpopular policies can cause a sharp drop of percentage to PAP. In 1980, they got 77.7%, in 1984, it dropped almost 13% to 64.8% as a result of LKY's unpopular policies.
With LHL's unpopular policies in the recent years, it is expected that this coming election will see a further drop of percentage.
Quote from http://www.singapore-elections.com/parl-1984-ge/
In his 1983 National Day Rally speech, Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew lamented that declining birth rates and large number of graduate women remaining single or not marrying their intellectual equal could see Singapore's talent pool shrink. The PAP government then proceeded to launch the "Graduate Mother Scheme" to entice graduate women with incentives to get married. These were said to have caused a big dip in PAP's support for this GE and its share of votes plunged by more than 10% to below 70%, the biggest fall and the lowest for PAP since the 1963 GE.
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Originally posted by charlize:
And the new citizens will kpkb to the government why cost of living is so high, GST is so high, ERP is so high, minister salaries are so high.
And why they are being replaced by cheaper, better, faster workers.
Yes, the new citizens in no time, they too will be replaced by a cheaper, betterest, fasterest workers coming here to work and stay.Right now, new citizen will vote for PAP, that's for sure. Already win some votes even GE still a long way to go.
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Originally posted by tranquilice:
2011: PAP 55% - 60%
I hope it will hit around 60%...