Lee Kuan Yew's Singapore forces foreigners to become citizen
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Lee Kuan Yew's Singapore forces foreigners to become citizens
Ladies and Gentlemen,
In Singapore's state controlled newspaper the Straits Times online edition of Sept 9, 2010, there is the shocking story, "SM clarifies PR (permanent residence) renewal".
Lee Kuan Yew's Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong, who does not have any full time position, but whose job it appears is to make periodical speeches which take his fancy, for which by the way, he is paid $3.7 million dollars a year, is reported to have said "In the past we could just give you permanent residence without taking up Singapore citizenship. Moving forward, we are going to approach some of them to take up Singapore citizenship. If they don't then their PRs (Singapore permanent residence) will not be renewed"!
Only in Singapore where nepotism and corruption rules with draconian punishment for critics in a fear ridden society will a man who has no full time government position, and nothing to do, is paid $3.7 million dollars a year, but that story is for some other day.
But coming back to this story of forcing people to becomes Singapore citizens, what this man is saying is that Singapore is going to force people to become citizens. If you don't want to be a citizen, you would be booted out. They are not going to allow you to work there unless you become their citizen!
Frankly this is the first time I have ever heard any country doing this, and it smacks of desperation. Mostly it is the other way round. People living in foreign countries may like it and apply for citizenship. The host country would accept qualified applicants and reject others. Citizenship should be at the request of the applicant, not the country forcing you to be one!
No country, not even Iraq or Afghanistan who have seen an exodus of people escaping the war, have forced anyone to become their citizens. This threat by Lee Kuan Yew's Singapore upon foreigners is not only desperate, it is pathetic.
Of course you know why they have stooped so low. Singapore's name has been internationally discredited as a country that hangs teenagers with the highest execution rate in the world. A place that brutally beats petty criminals (they call it "caning"). A one party state with no rule of law, and where defamation court actions is the preferred instrument to destroy political opponents.
As a result, the city state with a greatly limited land area of only 16 miles by 26 miles, has the lowest fertility rate in the world, the lowest marriage rates and a population which has been found to the unhappiest in the world. It also has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, with between 1 and 2 people taking their lives daily, the preferred method being jumping off the ubiquitous high rise apartments or by jumping onto oncoming trains and being crushed.
So it is not surprising that no one wants to become a citizen of the country preferring to spend some time there to earn some money and get the Hell out of there.
Of course there is this blog that further aggravates the situation for those in power in the island, as well as the Internet which on a daily basis tells it as it is.
Finally, this man Goh Chok Tong should realise that even if anyone became a citizen of that Alice in Wonderland island, having succumbed to the threats of deportation, what sort of citizens would they become? Not very good ones, I don't think.
I suppose I should finish by saying you can take a horse to water, you cannot make him drink.
Gopalan Nairhttp://singaporedissident.blogspot.com/2010/09/lee-kuan-yews-singapore-forces.html
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PAP is now pushing a policy to force aliens to become Singapore citizens, what are your views on this move?
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checkmate on pr.......trap has been set for them....serves them right too fo being ammo for gov against sporeans in 1st place.
if froeign workers wanna ruin positions of sporeans by messing up proportion n being ammo for gov.....then it serves them right .
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here we are fighting against gov policies decades ago n then u get total strangers from another country sayin....let us in./..let us in...we will werk harder n cheaper than yer sporean citizens......now they end up placed as target practice too.
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If this really happen, I bet many good one choose to leave. What left are those who speak half F english foreigner.
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i think they need better faster n cheaper newer pr.those that are almost expiring will be asked.the newer ones will be left alone.its logical due to economic sense.they surely wont ask an IT tech or engineer or some cleaner.the chosen ones should be older folks.....the ones not contributing.....etc etc.
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Cheaper, better and faster!
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a usual strategic move to make the world as stakeholders of singapore....the more the better on their palate...
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sign....does anyone ever thought that these are just words before election....
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gov is is not stupid at all.they will ask those who is earning million to stay in sg.this this will help singapore collect more tax.i forgot which gov idiot said this( we should welcome PRs as they buy a house here and they do not stay here or buy cars. they are jus buying a empty flat and bring in money for singapore) i jus went to china lat month. is fking relax there.i can walk very slow on the street and nt rushing to anywhere.when i came bak here, fk i not going to anywhere but i am just rushing my time to donno where. singapore is a busy country nobody likes this type of country.those PRs ar ethe same. they wont gonna stay here.i guess jus will jus throw the PR bak to singapore and said( i earn enough already i gonna go somewhere else and relax.).don force ppl to do something if they does not wants to do. they will nt make them stay.
ok wat am i talking?i also donno ^_^
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PR for a limited term only. Say for 10 years. Then out you go.
So that others may have a chance.
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He is forcing foreigners to be Singaporeans, and at the same time, forcing Singaporeans to become foreigners.
Killing two birds with one stone.
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I don't see what's wrong with this. Basically, it's just if you aren't going to commit yourself to Singapore and instead you are just using Singapore as a stepping stone, fuck off! I like this idea.
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Originally posted by tranquilice:
He is forcing foreigners to be Singaporeans, and at the same time, forcing Singaporeans to become foreigners.
Killing two birds with one stone.
..... : )
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Originally posted by nfshp253:
I don't see what's wrong with this. Basically, it's just if you aren't going to commit yourself to Singapore and instead you are just using Singapore as a stepping stone, fuck off! I like this idea.
that is not the point....The point is that it is a useless strategy because you can't control people to have dual citizenship....people can still retired overseas....
For example the half a million newly Indians........they can still retired in India as a Sg citizen so long as they declared Indian origin. They fly back to Sg once every 2 years for a period of 2 months than fly back to India.
Their children match make their bride from India. continue to strengthen their ties with India generation thru generation.
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SM Goh, how can I believe u now when ur wife said $600k is peanut....
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How about those who has been PRs for more than 10 yrs? Wil they get force to become a citizens? Or those less than a certain amount of years will get converted?
Seem like the statement is incomplete.
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this one i really dont give a care haha
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http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/09/keep-discussion-on-immigration-in-perspective-dpm-teo/
Apparently Singaporeans are all foreigners.
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Originally posted by charlize:
http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/09/keep-discussion-on-immigration-in-perspective-dpm-teo/
Apparently Singaporeans are all foreigners.
I think its not the first time they used this "propaganda"...
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Originally posted by Junyang700:
I think its not the first time they used this "propaganda"...
Next time when all the new citizens complain about their foreigner policies, they will use this again.
Really.
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Originally posted by Vote PAP OUT to Save SG:
Lee Kuan Yew's Singapore forces foreigners to become citizens
Ladies and Gentlemen,
In Singapore's state controlled newspaper the Straits Times online edition of Sept 9, 2010, there is the shocking story, "SM clarifies PR (permanent residence) renewal".
Lee Kuan Yew's Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong, who does not have any full time position, but whose job it appears is to make periodical speeches which take his fancy, for which by the way, he is paid $3.7 million dollars a year, is reported to have said "In the past we could just give you permanent residence without taking up Singapore citizenship. Moving forward, we are going to approach some of them to take up Singapore citizenship. If they don't then their PRs (Singapore permanent residence) will not be renewed"!
Only in Singapore where nepotism and corruption rules with draconian punishment for critics in a fear ridden society will a man who has no full time government position, and nothing to do, is paid $3.7 million dollars a year, but that story is for some other day.
But coming back to this story of forcing people to becomes Singapore citizens, what this man is saying is that Singapore is going to force people to become citizens. If you don't want to be a citizen, you would be booted out. They are not going to allow you to work there unless you become their citizen!
Frankly this is the first time I have ever heard any country doing this, and it smacks of desperation. Mostly it is the other way round. People living in foreign countries may like it and apply for citizenship. The host country would accept qualified applicants and reject others. Citizenship should be at the request of the applicant, not the country forcing you to be one!
No country, not even Iraq or Afghanistan who have seen an exodus of people escaping the war, have forced anyone to become their citizens. This threat by Lee Kuan Yew's Singapore upon foreigners is not only desperate, it is pathetic.
Of course you know why they have stooped so low. Singapore's name has been internationally discredited as a country that hangs teenagers with the highest execution rate in the world. A place that brutally beats petty criminals (they call it "caning"). A one party state with no rule of law, and where defamation court actions is the preferred instrument to destroy political opponents.
As a result, the city state with a greatly limited land area of only 16 miles by 26 miles, has the lowest fertility rate in the world, the lowest marriage rates and a population which has been found to the unhappiest in the world. It also has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, with between 1 and 2 people taking their lives daily, the preferred method being jumping off the ubiquitous high rise apartments or by jumping onto oncoming trains and being crushed.
So it is not surprising that no one wants to become a citizen of the country preferring to spend some time there to earn some money and get the Hell out of there.
Of course there is this blog that further aggravates the situation for those in power in the island, as well as the Internet which on a daily basis tells it as it is.
Finally, this man Goh Chok Tong should realise that even if anyone became a citizen of that Alice in Wonderland island, having succumbed to the threats of deportation, what sort of citizens would they become? Not very good ones, I don't think.
I suppose I should finish by saying you can take a horse to water, you cannot make him drink.
Gopalan Nairhttp://singaporedissident.blogspot.com/2010/09/lee-kuan-yews-singapore-forces.html
Well written post,LKY,LHL n that sheep GCT should read this.It is totally contradicting with what they n their propaganda said about Singapore.And it states the ugly truth that those cowards dont dare to face.
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It doesn't look nice to reject PR renewal for people who refuse to become singaporean. It is like telling the world that singapore is not an ideal place to live.
They should tighten the criteria to renew PR.
If the PR feel insecure, either convert or take the risk of not having their PR renewed.