Hong Kong sets Minimum Wage - What one Singaporean thinks
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Originally posted by charlize:
Say No to minimum wage for Singapore workers.
Say Yes to minimum wage for the people at the top who sometimes do not have official duties or have no official portfolios.
When the top heard this, they will quickly change topic. -
Originally posted by likeyou:
The final say still lies with employer himself/herself.Put yourself into the employee shoes, and you will be able to see how staff struggle to meets the end especially cost of living increasing over the years.
That is what i meant by class struggle, typically, i am wearing both employer shoe on one side and an employee shoe on the other side. Life is born thru struggle, and that struggle must continue inorder to sustain life, without struggle, what is life? some people struggled hard at the begining of life and therefore have less struggle near the end of their life, some struggled less during young, but end up having to struggle hard for the rest of their life. And some, by fate, do not need to struggle alot, we call them, the elites -
Originally posted by Aceone10:
Should be Maximum Wages for the people at the top without official duty
The govt can set a maximum wages for themselves, no problem, as long as it is adjustable from year to year, no differences. -
Originally posted by likeyou:
When the top heard this, they will quickly change topic.
no lah, we are deaf to critics -
Originally posted by angel7030:
That is what i meant by class struggle, typically, i am wearing both employer shoe on one side and an employee shoe on the other side. Life is born thru struggle, and that struggle must continue inorder to sustain life, without struggle, what is life? some people struggled hard at the begining of life and therefore have less struggle near the end of their life, some struggled less during young, but end up having to struggle hard for the rest of their life. And some, by fate, do not need to struggle alot, we call them, the elites
Elites? They shake leg only and if something screw up, they just say honest mistake right? -
Originally posted by angel7030:
no lah, we are deaf to critics
numb liao. -
Originally posted by likeyou:
numb liao.
numb said they are deaf, dumb said they will take it seriously...dumb dumb -
Originally posted by likeyou:
Elites? They shake leg only and if something screw up, they just say honest mistake right?
ya, 11 over million siphoned at SLA also an honest mistake. Is there any minister coming out to clarify it, or where is that law minister, busy with funneral ar?? -
Originally posted by angel7030:
ya, 11 over million siphoned at SLA also an honest mistake. Is there any minister coming out to clarify it, or where is that law minister, busy with funneral ar??
Have not prepared theri script mah.Must wait wait.
And also must find the below to kick their ass.
So the top will stay and tell the public....honest mistake again, sorry folks.
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Originally posted by likeyou:
Have not prepared theri script mah.Must wait wait.
And also must find the below to kick their ass.
So the top will stay and tell the public....honest mistake again, sorry folks.
and those poor auditors, staffs working below the director are going to get it for sure, how come the law minister get nothing leh??? he is suppose to sign the last line of the audit. -
Join back topic again.
1) As usual, I don't support min wage.
2) I would rather ask for the median wage to be brought to a higher level. Like that, at least more people can benefit, and also would help to take off some burden in the higher cost of living. If cost of living increase, logically, median salary should too.
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if the min wage or meridan or max wage keep moving upwards, might as well forget about it, it is same as flexible wage system base on performances and economic outlook, if this is the case, we should be more focus on wages increases and the min max ratio to be reduce. For eg, civil servant, a mere basic adminstration staff starting pay gets $1500 per mth whereas a Minister starting gets $1.5 millions per year, that is a big ration between them, so inorder to reduce this ration, increase the lower basic and decrease the higher basic to a 1:5 ratio, which was recommended by the wage council of singapore, meaning that if the lower staff get 1k, the highest should get only 5k.
1.5k against 1.5millions is hell of a lot in term of ratio. OMG, that is the way we go into wage settlement, not to mention about max, min or meridan all those nonsense, Argue on the ratio.
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http://www.temasekreview.com/2010/10/01/lim-swee-say-minimum-wage-is-an-easy-solution/
No minimum wage.
Just cheaper, better and faster.
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and also safer
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Originally posted by angel7030:
and also safer
Wth has a minimum wage got to do with "safer"?
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Cheaper, better and faster. So condom also cheaper, more uncle can afford it, that's why safer for her
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Originally posted by Phantomnite:
Join back topic again.
1) As usual, I don't support min wage.
2) I would rather ask for the median wage to be brought to a higher level. Like that, at least more people can benefit, and also would help to take off some burden in the higher cost of living. If cost of living increase, logically, median salary should too.
It should be change to1) Affordable household wages
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Originally posted by likeyou:
It should be change to1) Affordable household wages
Minimum wage lor ...aiyo... -
Originally posted by Genie99a:
Minimum wage lor ...aiyo...
Min wage, employers will push all the way down...cheap cheap workers....workers cannot survive the money they earn.That's why, imho, not good to have min wage, rather than affordable household wages. Meaning it will not be fixed but will varied.
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Originally posted by likeyou:
Min wage, employers will push all the way down...cheap cheap workers....workers cannot survive the money they earn.That's why, imho, not good to have min wage, rather than affordable household wages. Meaning it will not be fixed but will varied.
Yar lar i noe... its minimum wages lor lol.That minimum wage is reviewed constantly (maybe annually not sure Sg) to keep it meaningful to current costs.
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Originally posted by Genie99a:
Yar lar i noe... its minimum wages lor lol.That minimum wage is reviewed constantly (maybe annually not sure Sg) to keep it meaningful to current costs.
Yes Gen agreed with you.Cos' every now and then, we got to hear this increase, that increase....very frustrating cos wages stagnanted.
Yes, review in quaterly/half year is better than annually.
There are many pple still earning a low wages, hardly enough to buy 3 meals per day for his/her family.
Are you from Hkg?
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Originally posted by likeyou:
Yes Gen agreed with you.Cos' every now and then, we got to hear this increase, that increase....very frustrating cos wages stagnanted.
Yes, review in quaterly/half year is better than annually.
There are many pple still earning a low wages, hardly enough to buy 3 meals per day for his/her family.
Are you from Hkg?
From Singapore...... At Oz
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Originally posted by likeyou:
It should be change to1) Affordable household wages
Affordable wage as in employer give wages that is affordable to them? Or have just-nice-salary to feed the house?
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Originally posted by Phantomnite:
Affordable wage as in employer give wages that is affordable to them? Or have just-nice-salary to feed the house?
But will employers so kind to guage a salary that be able to sustain the household expenses? I dont think so. As what my employer told us : BUSINESS DOESNT CARE.