Originally posted by PRP:For those who support death penalty for drug trafficking, what are your reasons that the punishment is appropriate?
Only one chap replied to my above question.I find the reply is not satisfactory.
This is question they should address to support their stand.
Originally posted by skythewood:
Tell me, why should we feed the criminals free of charge? We owe them one ah?
Your argument has no hole!
U should pose your questions to the govt.
Originally posted by PRP:Only one chap replied to my above question.I find the reply is not satisfactory.
This is question they should address to support their stand.
Learn to quote
Come on please... stop quoting yourself. Address that chap directly by quoting him. So in what way is the reply un-satisfactory ?
If the death penalty can effectively deter ppl from trafficking large amount of drug,I may support it.The turth is it can't.
Originally posted by PRP:If the death penalty can effectively deter ppl from trafficking large amount of drug,I may support it.The turth is it can't.
So what can ? Hanging is the ultimate deterance and punishment, if hanging cant deter, what can ?
Originally posted by PRP:If the death penalty can effectively deter ppl from trafficking large amount of drug,I may support it.The turth is it can't.
Hanging cannot deter everybody.
However, it can deter a lot of people. If the risk of hanging is enough to scare many people off drugs, then I have to say that deterrence does work. Don't come and tell me that the risk of hanging does not scare you. I know it does scare me. And it does scare a lot of other people.
While it is sadly true that it does not deter some people, that does not mean that deterrence does not work. All it means is that some people are just too stupid or too foolhardy to be deterred. If they are too stupid to think of the death penalty when accepting a drug-running assignment, then the fault is all theirs.
In the end, your point is as good as saying:
'The Police doesn't work, because they still don't deter some criminals.'
'The Army doesn't work, because we can't deter everyone from attacking us.'
There something higher than hanging, it might not deter everyone, but certainly, it will reduce the nos of offenders, torture till death.
Originally posted by PRP:I urge the govt to consider amending the law to abolish death penalty for drug trafficking. The reasons are as follows:
1. Death penalty is an inhumane punishment. It should not be used lightly and inappropriately.
2. The motive of drug trafficking is for money. So acts of drug trafficking don't deserve death penalty.
3. Drug traffickers should not solely be blamed for the availability of drug in Singapore. There are sellers of drugs who buy from traffickers and sell them to drug addicts.
4. Drug addicts buy drugs voluntarily. If you are not interested in narcotic drugs, you would not take it even if it is free of charge.
5. Many Western countries view death penalty very negatively. Punishing people from these countries with death penalty would result to controversies and bad publicity for the country.
6. Abolishing death penalty for drug trafficking would be a humane act which should be a value espouses by the National Kindness Movement.
 
I appeal to you and all MPs to actively support this suggestion.
Pls read my full reasoning.
Originally posted by TTFU:1) The wrong gets punished. I see nothing with that
2) Yes money, thats why you need a stern punishment
3) The one who sold and bought should be blamed. Who said sellers aint blamed ?
4) Voluntarily commiting the offence ? I see what you mean there
5) Bad publicity ? Check up how many countries actually has the death penalty as their punishment
6) See 1
And read mine
Originally posted by PRP:Those who support death penalty like to refute my opinions.I find all their refuttings are wrong but I leave them to the readers to judge whose arguments are right.
Why do they keep comment on my opinions?I argue death penalty for drug trafficking should be abolished and they can argue the opposite.Let us see their arguments why death penalty on drug trafficking should stay.Why have there been so few?
The govt says they respect ppl who argue against death penalty.
I support death penalty and I also dont support death penalty.
Originally posted by PRP:Pls read my full reasoning.
Murder. Deliberatly plotting to kill.
Inflicting grevious bodily harm. Purposely inflicting great injury.
Kidnap with harm. Cutting the ears, pinkie to induce payment.
Treason. Betray your fellow citizens to the enemy.
Just like drug trafficking, we want to discourage all these activities.
It seems the death penalty supporters consider only one aspect of the punishment, i.e. deterrent effect. Such kind of consideration is not thorough enough. I give 6 reasons why the death penalty should be abolished for drug trafficking. My consideration of the issue is certainly much more complete than theirs.
It seems the death penalty supporters consider only one aspect of the punishment, i.e. deterrent effect. Such kind of consideration is not thorough enough. I give 6 reasons why the death penalty should be abolished for drug trafficking. My consideration of the matter is certainly more complete than theirs.
Can death penalty use on rapists?
Originally posted by PRP:It seems the death penalty supporters consider only one aspect of the punishment, i.e. deterrent effect. Such kind of consideration is not thorough enough. I give 6 reasons why the death penalty should be abolished for drug trafficking. My consideration of the matter is certainly more complete than theirs.
And the deterrent is the most important factor of them all. Why do you want to give our punishment anyway, for fun ? Or backside itchy. Please read your own thread before replying. Its not just detterent effect only.
TTFU,
All my opinions are wrong.Don't read my msg again.
how can, if you want to post here, you must allow people to read and comment on it, if not, keep it to yourself.
Originally posted by PRP:Be constructive.
Don't keep commenting others are wrong.It is possible that others are not wrong.It is you who doesn't understand correctly.
Just formulate your own arguments to support your stand.
I think TTFU can't make her own argument to support her stand.
Originally posted by TTFU:And the deterrent is the most important factor of them all. Why do you want to give our punishment anyway, for fun ? Or backside itchy. Please read your own thread before replying. Its not just detterent effect only.
At first,I thought to let you think your argument is right and not to refute it.
According to u,deterrent is the most important factor of all.So death penalty can be used on all crimes.
Originally posted by PRP:I think TTFU can't make her own argument to support her stand.
well, as women, we dun not need to support any stand.
Originally posted by PRP:At first,I thought to let you think your argument is right and not to refute it.
According to u,deterrent is the most important factor of all.So death penalty can be used on all crimes.
Case by Case basis, if a rape causes someone death, then it can be a death sentence, and if proven that smuggling of drugs was not his/her intention but somehow been sabotaged, then the court may rule out of death sentence.
The laws is stern for one reason, and that is prevention, which is alway better than cure.
Originally posted by PRP:At first,I thought to let you think your argument is right and not to refute it.
According to u,deterrent is the most important factor of all.So death penalty can be used on all crimes.
Bold assumption there isnt it ? Its used on serious crimes, and thats that. To add on, singapore is a small country. We rely on people. We cannot afford to take chances. Thats why the stern punishment
And oh ya btw. I dint say you are wrong. Just that your reasons are funny. This question has no right and wrong answer. It depends on the way you look at life in general. You cannot please two sides. Is it starting to get chim for you ?
Nvm i'll see whats the response before making a suitable comment
All the comments on my arguments were wrong because we stand on different viewpoint.
So don't comment on my opinions.Make your own argument to support your viewpoint.
Should death penalty use on rape?