Abolish death penalty for drug trafficking
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The question is, do we move ahead.. or backwards. Surely there are alternatives.
Like.. an island cum entertainment network.
lol
I know what u guys are thinking.. yup..
thats right... that movie.
xD
OR .. I know this is going to sound bold and insane.
Abolish the monetary system.
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Originally posted by PRP:
I urge the govt to consider amending the law to abolish death penalty for drug trafficking. The reasons are as follows:
1. Death penalty is an inhumane punishment. It should not be used lightly and inappropriately.
2. The motive of drug trafficking is for money. So acts of drug trafficking don't deserve death penalty.
3. Drug traffickers should not solely be blamed for the availability of drug in Singapore. There are sellers of drugs who buy from traffickers and sell them to drug addicts.
4. Drug addicts buy drugs voluntarily. If you are not interested in narcotic drugs, you would not take it even if it is free of charge.
5. Many Western countries view death penalty very negatively. Punishing people from these countries with death penalty would result to controversies and bad publicity for the country.
6. Abolishing death penalty for drug trafficking would be a humane act which should be a value espouses by the National Kindness Movement.
　
I appeal to you and all MPs to actively support this suggestion.
Of course, death penalty has deterrent effect.But I have 6 reasons to argue against it for drug trafficking.I hope you would take my reasons in total.
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Originally posted by PRP:
Of course, death penalty has deterrent effect.But I have 6 reasons to argue against it for drug trafficking.I hope you would take my reasons in total.
1) The wrong gets punished. I see nothing with that
2) Yes money, thats why you need a stern punishment
3) The one who sold and bought should be blamed. Who said sellers aint blamed ?
4) Voluntarily commiting the offence ? I see what you mean there
5) Bad publicity ? Check up how many countries actually has the death penalty as their punishment
6) See 1
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Originally posted by Tanrave:
This.
Enough said.
Really.
You still fail to see the message.
Reducing trafficking to a mere CIQ offence would encourage trafficking in drugs.
Death is the ultimate deterrent, if that fails, then I advocate hold it at that level and not compromise.
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What if your friend, who tries to bring drugs into Singapore, manages to slip a packet of it into your bag? What if in the queue, some strangers from behind slip something into your pocket/bags?
Don't laugh & think it's impossible, because it might & did happen. Lots of drug carriers are just pawns, or they are keep in the dark till its too late. I wonder how you will react if your siblings or parents are the victims of this & you know it's a death penalty waitng for them.
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Originally posted by Fallen-Angel:
What if your friend, who tries to bring drugs into Singapore, manages to slip a packet of it into your bag? What if in the queue, some strangers from behind slip something into your pocket/bags?
Don't laugh & think it's impossible, because it might & did happen. Lots of drug carriers are just pawns, or they are keep in the dark till its too late. I wonder how you will react if your siblings or parents are the victims of this & you know it's a death penalty waitng for them.
Thats why everyone should be careful when in the customs. You are responsible for your own belongings and things at the age of 18 or higher. Is that related to the topic anyway ? No.
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Death penalty should always be there to prevent more drug mules, let the drug lords know that they are sending their people here to die! Save public funds for trials, Hang them and kalas.
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let the death penalty continue. and who gives a damn about it? It keeps this place safer. There are more pertinent bread n butter issues in singapore.
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It is impossible to totally prevent drug from coming into this country because there are so many ppl pass through the custom every day.But for the local drug pedlars and distrbutors, why can't the police erradicate them?
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Originally posted by Fallen-Angel:
What if your friend, who tries to bring drugs into Singapore, manages to slip a packet of it into your bag? What if in the queue, some strangers from behind slip something into your pocket/bags?
Don't laugh & think it's impossible, because it might & did happen. Lots of drug carriers are just pawns, or they are keep in the dark till its too late. I wonder how you will react if your siblings or parents are the victims of this & you know it's a death penalty waitng for them.
To put large amount of drug would be too expensive.But putting small amount, I think someone may do such kind of thing.If he get caught, he has no way to escape punishment at all.
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Originally posted by ahtansh:
Death penalty should always be there to prevent more drug mules, let the drug lords know that they are sending their people here to die! Save public funds for trials, Hang them and kalas.
Ya.. I am sure the drug lords are shaking with fear and remorse.
lol
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Originally posted by PRP:
It is impossible to totally prevent drug from coming into this country because there are so many ppl pass through the custom every day.But for the local drug pedlars and distrbutors, why can't the police erradicate them?
Why dont you google about how drugs are produced. Its not just singapore, its all over the world
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Originally posted by PRP:
It is impossible to totally prevent drug from coming into this country because there are so many ppl pass through the custom every day.But for the local drug pedlars and distrbutors, why can't the police erradicate them?
Sure, it is also impossible to prevent anything from coming into singapore, however, we can minimise it, by taking up the preventative measures, that is either thru laws, orders or censorship. And prevention is better than cure.By setting up a stern laws and orders here on drug smuggling, the laws have so far, serve us well, we may see some drug movement going out, but definitely, very minor, and surely very much less than other countries. So, why should we amend a laws that had served us so well thru out our nation building and so on? Aren't we kicking ourselves to abolish it? If the west do not serve capital punishment, that does not mean we have to follow them, we are no more their colonies, why should we follow them on those bad laws, we take only the good from them, leave the bad for themselves.
If PAP is unable to eradicate people like you, you think the police can eradicate all smugglers?? it is a cat and mouse game ya
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Originally posted by TTFU:
Thats why everyone should be careful when in the customs. You are responsible for your own belongings and things at the age of 18 or higher. Is that related to the topic anyway ? No.
Ya, as if people make no mistakes & can be 100% safe about their belongings lidat. If there is nothing such as 100%, i don't think the judge or law have the right to put a person to death without any chance given. This is related to the topic. Yes.
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Originally posted by likeyou:
If you killed somone, yes death sentences.
If you trafficking...maybe life sentences. Case by case? Harsh? If convicted twice...death sentence. If once, life sentences. Must catch the head, not the runner.
Head dies, runner lives.
The above person knows the right principle of punishment.There are many ppl here don't seem to know.To them,they may support death penalty on rapists too.
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Originally posted by Fallen-Angel:
Ya, as if people make no mistakes & can be 100% safe about their belongings lidat. If there is nothing such as 100%, i don't think the judge or law have the right to put a person to death without any chance given. This is related to the topic. Yes.
Thats why dont anyhow take things from stranger or friend in custom ? How sure are you that the person will be put to death penalty in your case ? If the person is really wrongly convicted, is any sentence fair in this case ?
We are talking about Voluntarily commiting the offence.
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Originally posted by PRP:
The above person knows the right principle of punishment.There are many ppl here don't seem to know.To them,they may support death penalty on rapists too.
If got head no runner will there be any case ? how about got runner no head ? The word peaceful comes with a price. And oh ya, being a small country, singapore cant take any chances.
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this discussion is heading no where...
but it is good to have strict rules...
if you don't like it (here)... look somewhere else that may suit you better...
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Originally posted by Just_do_it_lah:
this discussion is heading no where...
but it is good to have strict rules...
if you don't like it (here)... look somewhere else that may suit you better...
I don't rebut those who commented on my opinions in this thread.Readers can judge themselves whose argument is right.So u can make your own judgement too. -
For those who support death penalty for drug trafficking, what are your reasons that the punishment is appropriate?
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Originally posted by PRP:
One guy get caught and is hanged but some others are not caught.So illegal drugs are still available here.Is the problem solved?
the purpose of the death sentence is not to eradicate the drug problem but to reduce it. the death sentence serves as a deterrent. there are countries without the death sentence. why bring drugs here when they know we have the death sentence? if the mule doesnt want to die for his silly crime dont traffick drugs into singapore. bring it to countries that do not have the death penalty.
its simple and straight forward.
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If there is no argument, why borther to post comments
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Originally posted by PRP:
For those who support death penalty for drug trafficking, what are your reasons that the punishment is appropriate?
Why has there been no member reply to my above question?
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Many has already given their reply, including you
Originally posted by troublemaker2005:The gahmen is on right track. Death penalty stays for drugs. when your sons and daugghters are drug addicts, you will know and feel the pain. if you don't then at least don't make my sons and daughters take drugs and make me feel the pain.
even if a 5 year old boy or girl paddle drugs, if i can make the law i will still hang him or her.
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Then drug runners can always be first-timers, it doesn't get rid of drug trafficking.Originally posted by mancha:.The death sentence for drug traffickers is not to solve the problem, but to deal with the traffickers. Lesser punishment is not sufficient, the max is death.
With the death sentence, you and I and many others will never consider trafficking drugs. But if the sentence is two weeks jail for a Customs and Quarantine offence, there will be a long line of volunteers to carry drugs.
Originally posted by ahtansh:Death penalty should always be there to prevent more drug mules, let the drug lords know that they are sending their people here to die! Save public funds for trials, Hang them and kalas.
Originally posted by PRP:It is impossible to totally prevent drug from coming into this country because there are so many ppl pass through the custom every day.But for the local drug pedlars and distrbutors, why can't the police erradicate them?
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What if death sentences impose wrongly to a person?
Something like being make use of?