It's very unsightly to see so many Bengalis on weekends

• ahtansh

  1 Jul 10, 10:40

  Who is liable for such Social problems? Anwser is here,

  LAW and Second Home Affairs Minister K. Shanmugam reiterated yesterday that the security of places like MRT depots should be a partnership between the Government, private corporations and the public.

  It is not the sole responsibility of the Government, for if it were so, taxpayers would end up paying the bill for the security of private sector companies.

  'You ask yourself: Is it fair? When you say Government, ultimately the people pay for it,' he said.

  'We have thousands of private organisations which are profit-oriented and make money for their shareholders. It is impossible, and unacceptable, to require the taxpayer to pay for the security of all these profit-making companies, both in terms of the manpower required and the sheer cost,' he added.

  Speaking on the sidelines of a community event in Sembawang GRC, he was replying to reporters' questions about the role of the Government in preventing security breaches at MRT depots.

  Some netizens have recently charged that the Government should take responsibility for the security lapse at the Changi depot and not shift the blame on to SMRT.

  They based their argument on the fact that Temasek Holdings, which is owned by the Ministry of Finance, has a majority stake in SMRT.

  Mr Shanmugam rejected these charges as based on a 'misconception' of SMRT.

  'It is not a government entity. It declares dividends which go to the shareholders. You and I, if we are not shareholders, we won't get the dividends,' he said.

  Since SMRT 'deals with the transport of millions of people', its security awareness 'has to be very high', he stressed.

  He also disputed the assertion that SMRT is not a private sector company simply because it is majority-owned by Temasek, saying that Temasek owns stakes in many companies in and outside Singapore.

  So Companies that brings in these Bengalis should make sure they are well behaved!

• sgdiehard

  1 Jul 10, 10:43

  TS and some posts here say very badly about Singaporean (if you are) as a people, and singapore as a multi racial society.

  I do not differentiate people by their skin colour, "dark skin", "yellow skin", or "white skin", I differentiate them by how polite, courteous, ....they are. You are not anywhere near what I would call civilized human being.

   Whether one appear "unsightly" or not is individual opinion. They may be unsightly to you but believe me or not, you are unsightly to all the rest of the people in singapore!

  Where they come from, bangala, india, china, myanmar...does not matter, they are in Singapore for a purpose, recognized by their boss, and the government. do you have a reason for your existance?

   

   

• Angjaydyn

  1 Jul 10, 10:51

  Originally posted by ahtansh:

  Who is liable for such Social problems? Anwser is here,

  LAW and Second Home Affairs Minister K. Shanmugam reiterated yesterday that the security of places like MRT depots should be a partnership between the Government, private corporations and the public.

  It is not the sole responsibility of the Government, for if it were so, taxpayers would end up paying the bill for the security of private sector companies.

  'You ask yourself: Is it fair? When you say Government, ultimately the people pay for it,' he said.

  'We have thousands of private organisations which are profit-oriented and make money for their shareholders. It is impossible, and unacceptable, to require the taxpayer to pay for the security of all these profit-making companies, both in terms of the manpower required and the sheer cost,' he added.

  Speaking on the sidelines of a community event in Sembawang GRC, he was replying to reporters' questions about the role of the Government in preventing security breaches at MRT depots.

  Some netizens have recently charged that the Government should take responsibility for the security lapse at the Changi depot and not shift the blame on to SMRT.

  They based their argument on the fact that Temasek Holdings, which is owned by the Ministry of Finance, has a majority stake in SMRT.

  Mr Shanmugam rejected these charges as based on a 'misconception' of SMRT.

  'It is not a government entity. It declares dividends which go to the shareholders. You and I, if we are not shareholders, we won't get the dividends,' he said.

  Since SMRT 'deals with the transport of millions of people', its security awareness 'has to be very high', he stressed.

  He also disputed the assertion that SMRT is not a private sector company simply because it is majority-owned by Temasek, saying that Temasek owns stakes in many companies in and outside Singapore.

  So Companies that brings in these Bengalis should make sure they are well behaved!

  Yes thank you! I agree! Like totally. But if only there can be some enforecement.

• Angjaydyn

  1 Jul 10, 10:58

  Originally posted by sgdiehard:

  "I differentiate them by how polite, courteous..."

   

  
  Yes I agree. Thanks.

• Annilator47

  1 Jul 10, 12:29

  Originally posted by ahtansh:

  Who is liable for such Social problems? Anwser is here,

  LAW and Second Home Affairs Minister K. Shanmugam reiterated yesterday that the security of places like MRT depots should be a partnership between the Government, private corporations and the public.

  It is not the sole responsibility of the Government, for if it were so, taxpayers would end up paying the bill for the security of private sector companies.

  'You ask yourself: Is it fair? When you say Government, ultimately the people pay for it,' he said.

  'We have thousands of private organisations which are profit-oriented and make money for their shareholders. It is impossible, and unacceptable, to require the taxpayer to pay for the security of all these profit-making companies, both in terms of the manpower required and the sheer cost,' he added.

  Speaking on the sidelines of a community event in Sembawang GRC, he was replying to reporters' questions about the role of the Government in preventing security breaches at MRT depots.

  Some netizens have recently charged that the Government should take responsibility for the security lapse at the Changi depot and not shift the blame on to SMRT.

  They based their argument on the fact that Temasek Holdings, which is owned by the Ministry of Finance, has a majority stake in SMRT.

  Mr Shanmugam rejected these charges as based on a 'misconception' of SMRT.

  'It is not a government entity. It declares dividends which go to the shareholders. You and I, if we are not shareholders, we won't get the dividends,' he said.

  Since SMRT 'deals with the transport of millions of people', its security awareness 'has to be very high', he stressed.

  He also disputed the assertion that SMRT is not a private sector company simply because it is majority-owned by Temasek, saying that Temasek owns stakes in many companies in and outside Singapore.

  So Companies that brings in these Bengalis should make sure they are well behaved!

  isn't Temasek a GLC?? so why should SMRT be alone to bear the cost??, besides i think he does have dividends, just that he fail to see it in his account lol.

   

  btw wrong message here, what i know of SMRT, they don't have these type of workers, mostly these are sub contract from them or somewhere else.

   

   

• Asromanista2001

  1 Jul 10, 15:13

  Originally posted by eagle:

  Somehow I find this very funny

   

  i mean it ! i may be a hardcore racist but i'm a compassionate racist !

   

  by the way just read an article in dailymail.co.uk about one Ah Neh family in England got money to buy Porsche but still claim Govt handouts amounting to 170,000 pounds !!!

  this kind of fucking Ah Nehs deserve to kana public beating !

• Angjaydyn

  1 Jul 10, 15:20

  Originally posted by Asromanista2001:

   

  i mean it ! i may be a hardcore racist but i'm a compassionate racist !

   

  by the way just read an article in dailymail.co.uk about one Ah Neh family in England got money to buy Porsche but still claim Govt handouts amounting to 170,000 pounds !!!

  this kind of fucking Ah Nehs deserve to kana public beating !

  
  Hahaha!
  oops..

• Angjaydyn

  1 Jul 10, 16:35

  i feel it's the same as maid agencies have to train maids before they are being hired by any employer. they learn how to avoid conflict with their employer, where to seek help when needed etc.

• TYING

  1 Jul 10, 17:24

  Originally posted by Fenixx:

  
  Please lah..... TS is stating something in a matter-of-factly manner. BUT what you have stated is your own interpretation forced onto TS!

   

   

   

   

   

  My own interpretation? Look closely at the title typed by TS. 

  Is that title meant to mislead or he has indeed say what he was saying about skin colour. Not that I support white superiority, but if the same were to happen with a Caucasian, would TS say such things? He is uncomfortable because they are from Bangladeshi and that they are staring at him. 

  I didn't force anything upon him. He said and spelled everything clearly out himself. 

   

• SANTA CLAUSE

  2 Jul 10, 12:17

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• Angjaydyn

  3 Jul 10, 12:10

  Originally posted by SANTA CLAUSE:

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  You see! This is what I mean! Literally bathing in the open. Without a care whatsoever. Like this is not their country? Things brought up and simply nobody cares. Thanks SANTA CLAUSE.

• Kyron

  5 Jul 10, 00:18

  It's no use arguing over this issue when not much can be done unless you're a person in power.

• MissZ

  5 Jul 10, 02:30

  Even if you are racist get the race correct my dear.

  If you are referring to foreign workers from Bangladesh, they are Bangladeshis, not Bengalis.

  It makes me feel disturbed too when people are lacking in general knowledge.

  How do you feel about the HUGE influx here of native Chinese then? Any comments?

• sgdiehard

  5 Jul 10, 10:21

  Originally posted by MissZ:

  Even if you are racist get the race correct my dear.

  If you are referring to foreign workers from Bangladesh, they are Bangladeshis, not Bengalis.

  It makes me feel disturbed too when people are lacking in general knowledge.

  How do you feel about the HUGE influx here of native Chinese then? Any comments?

  who are the native chinese? born in china? then what about chinese from malaysia, taiwan, indonesia....? there is indeed a lacking in general knowledge.

  one racist leading to another racist?

• Arapahoe

  5 Jul 10, 10:30

  Originally posted by sgdiehard:

  who are the native chinese? born in china? then what about chinese from malaysia, taiwan, indonesia....? there is indeed a lacking in general knowledge.

  one racist leading to another racist?

  Had a MY supervisor transit in Mexico airport waiting at the transit lounge. Unfornately he sat beside a group of PRC.....the Mexican Police came rounded all the PRC including the MY supervisor..... he got detained for 1 night, missed the flight.

  I supposed if he speak spanish it would help. or Flash his MY passport. But again when I was in Germany the custom thought that i hold a Fake Singapore passport.

   

   

• MissZ

  5 Jul 10, 11:17

  Originally posted by sgdiehard:

  who are the native chinese? born in china? then what about chinese from malaysia, taiwan, indonesia....? there is indeed a lacking in general knowledge.

  one racist leading to another racist?

  
  Likewise for you Deer...think you answered the first part yourself ;) They are Chinese born in China.

  My purpose in asking him that question was to see what he felt about other ethnic/cultural groups especially those who presumably are the same colour as he is.

   

• sgdiehard

  5 Jul 10, 11:42

  Originally posted by Arapahoe:

  Had a MY supervisor transit in Mexico airport waiting at the transit lounge. Unfornately he sat beside a group of PRC.....the Mexican Police came rounded all the PRC including the MY supervisor..... he got detained for 1 night, missed the flight.

  I supposed if he speak spanish it would help. or Flash his MY passport. But again when I was in Germany the custom thought that i hold a Fake Singapore passport.

   

  Mexican police can't tell a chinese, from a korean, a japanese, or a vietnamese, neither can we tell a bangladeshi, from a tamil, hindi, sri lankan, or a pakistani, or telling the difference between a german, a french, an italian.....

  go to mexico, expect the mexican way.. 

• sgdiehard

  5 Jul 10, 11:43

  Originally posted by MissZ:

  
  Likewise for you Deer...think you answered the first part yourself ;) They are Chinese born in China.

  My purpose in asking him that question was to see what he felt about other ethnic/cultural groups especially those who presumably are the same colour as he is.

  actually I don't assume that the TS is a chinese.

• Arapahoe

  5 Jul 10, 15:13

  Originally posted by sgdiehard:

  Mexican police can't tell a chinese, from a korean, a japanese, or a vietnamese, neither can we tell a bangladeshi, from a tamil, hindi, sri lankan, or a pakistani, or telling the difference between a german, a french, an italian.....

  go to mexico, expect the mexican way.. 

  When did Japanese and Korean become a individual nations and not considered prt of China?

  you know at somepoint singaporean will have to decide what come first....being Singaporean or being ethnically chinese. It is part of nationhood maturity.

   Although the government is trying to renew its demographics by creating a generation that are connected to mainland china and india and better reflect the region at some point in the future the population will decide irregardless of correctness.

   

• likeyou

  5 Jul 10, 15:35

  Without them, we wont have any beautiful hdb flats to live in, dont have any good condition roads, clean paveway, etc...thanks to them for making spore clean.

• sgdiehard

  5 Jul 10, 18:46

  Originally posted by Arapahoe:

  When did Japanese and Korean become a individual nations and not considered prt of China?

  you know at somepoint singaporean will have to decide what come first....being Singaporean or being ethnically chinese. It is part of nationhood maturity.

   Although the government is trying to renew its demographics by creating a generation that are connected to mainland china and india and better reflect the region at some point in the future the population will decide irregardless of correctness.

  when were japan and korea ever part of China?

  Singapore will remain a multi racial country with different ethnicities. Nationhood is defined by people with common identity to the land, the country, the constitutions, not defined by people who speak the same language or have the same religion.

   

• Arapahoe

  5 Jul 10, 21:50

  Originally posted by sgdiehard:

  when were japan and korea ever part of China?

  Singapore will remain a multi racial country with different ethnicities. Nationhood is defined by people with common identity to the land, the country, the constitutions, not defined by people who speak the same language or have the same religion.

   

  
  Singapore will remain a multi racial country with different ethnicities. Nationhood is defined by people with common identity to the land, the country, the constitutions, not defined by people who speak the same language or have the same religion.

  All these are the characteristics of a nation. But it will take the population to mature and bond together and unmistakenly called themselved Singaporean.

   

• Angjaydyn

  5 Jul 10, 21:59

  When I step out of my house, I want to feel the pride that I am a Singaporean. I do not wish to feel more and more that I am in Bangladesh or wherever.

  When public holiday comes, like our national day, I want to join in the celebration, even if I might not be at the parade. I do not want this thought to be killed and think of, hey maybe we should head to malaysia.

  I am born and and I belong here. I do not wish to have anyone or anything to take away the pride that I am a Singaporean. I do not want to dread being a Singaporean.

• Deino

  6 Jul 10, 09:51

  We're like the ancient Egyptians or something. 

• sgdiehard

  6 Jul 10, 11:08

  Originally posted by Angjaydyn:

  When I step out of my house, I want to feel the pride that I am a Singaporean. I do not wish to feel more and more that I am in Bangladesh or wherever.

  When public holiday comes, like our national day, I want to join in the celebration, even if I might not be at the parade. I do not want this thought to be killed and think of, hey maybe we should head to malaysia.

  I am born and and I belong here. I do not wish to have anyone or anything to take away the pride that I am a Singaporean. I do not want to dread being a Singaporean.

  What make you proud of as a singaporean?

  how can anyone take away that pride?

  I am proud of Singapore because I can show my foreign visitors that you can feel like India when you are in serangoon, china when in china town, or may be geylang, a malaysian kampung when in geylang serai, and like in any cospomolitan city when you are in orchard road.

  I am proud to show people the many different places of worships, especially a chinese temple, a church, and an indian temple side by side.

  why are you so concerned about the bangladeshi in Singapore? why are you worried about being killed?