Originally posted by MissZ:So sad..Heard from someone that NTU(if I'm not mistaken) scholarship has this clause-offered to S'poreans & Chinese Nationals only! It's such blatant pampering of the PRCs!
If it's offered on merit to foreigners I have nothing to say, but...
There's something seriously wrong here.
spore authorities like to suck up to PRC. its part of their grand sucking up plan.
Originally posted by Bio-Hawk:You idiots talk as if u had a few thousand years of history.Most of you are immigrant from China/M'sia/India or what not and just populated the place. Now wait for others better than u to replace u.
Evolution, behold.
another foreigner lamblasting sporeans ?
aiyah, admit it lah. it's bcos u can't find work in yr home country or yr home country conditions suck, that's why u are here. so why elevate yrself over sporeans ? go back home lah, if u are so damn good. if spore govt give u scholarship, uphold yr dignity by rejecting it. walk the talk. u dare or not ? bottom line is, foreigners are lured by money. so stop talk cock here in the land where you suck the money
Originally posted by angel7030:You young meh?? many here also young lor..
anyway, kor kor,
other countries have a big land mass, a big market, a big space, they dun mind people coming to work and contribute to their nation, mostly they want talented Singaporeans, maybe a 100 thousands in USA, a few thousand in Aust, Canada, and a few hundreds in middle east and china, not much changes to what is happening since 1970s, singaporeans have been migrating out to work and make their living there.
But the migrants coming to singapore is different, they are welcomed with open arms, be it indians, mynamars, chinese, etc etc, half talented or talent with fake cert or simply ill mannered or different culture are coming here, and we are talking about a few hundreds, it is going to be at least 2 millions, more than the 1.8 total singaporean workforce here. And our land mass is just a red or black dot on the map.
Singapore moving oversea to work is out of own willingness after considering all the pros and cons, but the foreigners coming here are being lure in thru promotion and connection. People in other countries excepted singaporeans because we are graceful peoples, educated and knows the manner well, but foreigner coming here are not well mannered, spit here and there, talk so loud, never respect our old peoples, do thing as tho this land belong to theirs, mark up our cost of living,...etc etc...so do you think Singaporeans is going to shut up and let this go on???
Kor, i am not an advocate of going against foreigners, but if you look at our land and our demographic conditions, do we need or really need so much foreigners by which i would say 30% out of the 100% are good only. There is simply no filtering here, because singapore govt have a different objective beside helping the economy, and that is birthrate which the other countries have no problem with it
U joker la, I 19, so old meh?
By the way, u r weird, some times pro PAP and now not. Which side r u standing?
Originally posted by Samuel Lee:U joker la, I 19, so old meh?
By the way, u r weird, some times pro PAP and now not. Which side r u standing?
that bugger is just a double headed snake
people are dulan cos of high expenses and lower/depress/fuck up salaries that they are recieving and not any dialects
yet some people happy happy adjust their salaries and give reasons why their salaries must increase
wow lah what is this
it just made many people dulan
Originally posted by Samuel Lee:I dont understand why there are people can accept Singaporeans went to overseas so as to work / study whatever for long term basis (Which is like a foreginer in other land) but not when others come into Singapore to work as foreginer, and calling nasty names such as aliens / they invaded us etc when some Singaporeans invaded US, Australia, Middle East, China etc land as well.
To me, it is again double standard. In short, I as a young Singaporean, does not totally support PAP, but still regard this as nonsense as well due to double standards policy.
first of all you must consider this: the size of the land here..how much space can it hold??
secondly you have to factor in the population here and understand why this is not happening in other countries becoz the number of people migrating to other places that are singaporeans are small in the recieving country standards .
how you ask..then you gotta consider the land/population ratio
thats where you start to see WHY this things which you said happen ONLY HERE.
i'll share with you another experiance:
when i was job hunting last year, i went for a walk in interview, which ended up as my job today but it was a tideous and nerve biting process, why?? if you ask
firstly, at my age of late 30s, i have to compete with my younger counterparts who may have just grad from poly or ITE
secondly- at that time, there was an economic crunch around, to make matters more worst, i have to compete with fellow workers around my age or younger who were retrenched,(i was retrenched too from my previous job)
lastly-unkown to me but this was later revealed by my interviewer, i had to compete with (abt 100++ interviewees total) some pinoy / PRC engineers who were willing to fight for a the lowest tech post just to get a job in singapore, however luckly for me resentment was quite high then so as a singaporean i kinda got luckly to get the job.
it did however cost me a few sleepless nights before i was told i got the job.
you are 19 now, age maybe your advantage, but not as big as before since there are more and more foriegn workers/FT coming in, with that the competition of the jobs get more and more fierece, should the job growth get lesser and lesser.
i hope you understand this well, since it also will have an effect on your siblings (if you have any younger ones) and in the future your kids should things continue this way.
So means only 58% of the population are Singaporeans.
Wonder how PAP will feel if only 58% PAP members are in parliament. LOL....
so u let these people run and wipe off yer life slowly from u??
in fact it is possible they have china MPs with great connections in china....its already happening in some constituents or towns...i suppose it wont be long before they have some china mp pr in PAP.this china mp pr has toi have billion dollar connections to suzhou or million $$$ back in china industries.
as long as there is $$$ coming into spore mp and pm salaries...THATS ALL THAT COUNTS!
MEANWHILE THE REST OF SINGAPOREANS ARE REGARDED AS ROADKILL AND TOTALLY NEGLECTED FROM JOBS TO FUTURE.
HERE IN NZ, SOME WHITES SAY SINGAPOREANS IN GENERAL ARE RATHER POOR AND SHITTY AS COMPARED TO THE RICH TAIWANESE AND TECHNO ADVANCED SOUTH KOREANS!!!SINGAPOREANS DONT DRIVE IN NEW ZEALAND WITH THIS YEARS SPORTS CARS AND STAY ENMASS LIKE THE RICH TAIWANESE IN NEW ZEALAND .......
SINGAPOREANS ARE NOT GOOD IN MAKING ANYTHING THATS WANTED LIKE THE SOUTH KOREANS LG TV,SAMSUNG DVD PLAYER OR HYUNDAI CARS...
AND SPOREAN WEALTH CANT BE COMPARED TO THE HONG KONGERS WHO COME LOADED TO NEW ZEALAND IN PAST WITH 10 MILLION DOLLARS AND A COMPANY TO BOOT.
WHAT HAS SINGAPORE GIVEN OR CONTRIBUTED TO THE WORLD???THERES NO NAME OR GOODS PRODUCED OUT FROM SPORE AS IN SAMSUNG FROM KOREA OR EVEN CHEAP TOYS THATS MADE IN HONG KONG!!!SPORE GIVES OUT STUFF FROM ST AEROSPACE THAT NOBODY WOULD BUY AND A FAT CHANCE IF A DEAL IS EVER BROHERED IN THE FIRST PLACE!!WHAT EL;SE???CUTLLEFISH BALLS????WE DONT EVEN HAVE ANYTHING THAT WORLD REALLY NEEDS....WITH EXCEPTION OF CREATIVE SOUND LABS AND THAT TOO SEEMS LIKE ITS DYING.
WHERE ARE THE SINGAPOREANS???WORKING AS A CLEANER IN SOME FARM?WORKING AS A MILKMAN???WIPED OUT AND TRAUMATISED BY PAP AND STILL UNABLE TO RECOVER OVERSEAS???
ALTHOUGH NEW ZEALANDERS MIGHT NOT MAKE ANYTHING, THEY DO LOVE TO OBSERVE AND COMPARE.
Originally posted by Samuel Lee:With this and that adding up, I wont even mind even if 99% are foreginers, so long as my job is secure, I got a pretty wife and etc (Essential of a life) ...... will do.
You have simple ambitions, but it's already much better than the complain kings and queens around here :)
I once believed in PAP, but a forumer called Gazelle made me see through them. I treat everything much more objectively than before.
Originally posted by Annilator47:first of all you must consider this: the size of the land here..how much space can it hold??
secondly you have to factor in the population here and understand why this is not happening in other countries becoz the number of people migrating to other places that are singaporeans are small in the recieving country standards .
how you ask..then you gotta consider the land/population ratio
thats where you start to see WHY this things which you said happen ONLY HERE.
i'll share with you another experiance:
when i was job hunting last year, i went for a walk in interview, which ended up as my job today but it was a tideous and nerve biting process, why?? if you ask
firstly, at my age of late 30s, i have to compete with my younger counterparts who may have just grad from poly or ITE
secondly- at that time, there was an economic crunch around, to make matters more worst, i have to compete with fellow workers around my age or younger who were retrenched,(i was retrenched too from my previous job)
lastly-unkown to me but this was later revealed by my interviewer, i had to compete with (abt 100++ interviewees total) some pinoy / PRC engineers who were willing to fight for a the lowest tech post just to get a job in singapore, however luckly for me resentment was quite high then so as a singaporean i kinda got luckly to get the job.
it did however cost me a few sleepless nights before i was told i got the job.
you are 19 now, age maybe your advantage, but not as big as before since there are more and more foriegn workers/FT coming in, with that the competition of the jobs get more and more fierece, should the job growth get lesser and lesser.
i hope you understand this well, since it also will have an effect on your siblings (if you have any younger ones) and in the future your kids should things continue this way.
Good post, this is what I wanted before I read things as double standards.
Too long never read
Singapore is made up of immigrants to began with. What this government need to do is to be fair and make sure that Citizens are taken care of first! before PRs than Foreigners.
The rights given to SG Citizen to Vote is our power to demand attention.
Originally posted by Samuel Lee:U joker la, I 19, so old meh?
By the way, u r weird, some times pro PAP and now not. Which side r u standing?
Kor, 19yo is consider old already, in many third world country, 19yo is already a father liao. To me, anything above 18 yo is consider unrated and old liao.
We must be impartial to things and policies, some of PAP policies are good, and some are bad, to be frank, kor, there is never going to be a perfect good govt, in fact, all govt are consider bad, but as long as there is a 30% good in them, most people will survive and live quite normally. Therefore, we need to be objectives, good is good, bad is bad, pro and support without impartial judgement will only blind your senses.
I have no doubt that if PAP was overthrown, the new party will still maintain some of the good stuffs that PAP had nurtured here, policies like education, learning and training is something they should follow up.
Originally posted by ahtansh:Singapore is made up of immigrants to began with. What this government need to do is to be fair and make sure that Citizens are taken care of first! before PRs than Foreigners.
The rights given to SG Citizen to Vote is our power to demand attention.
"I guarantee you that Singaporean will alway come first" LHL on last year national day rally.
Originally posted by angel7030:
Kor, 19yo is consider old already, in many third world country, 19yo is already a father liao. To me, anything above 18 yo is consider unrated and old liao.
1st point - Which century is this now? if you say is the 1870s-1890s in europe i accept.
Originally posted by One Harmonius Blend:
1st point - Which century is this now? if you say is the 1870s-1890s in europe i accept.
when i visited africa, rural china, india, mynamar, laos....etc ...i see the gal only 16 and the guy 18 get married liao...no wonder they got no birthrate problem.
I think singapore must learn from them, like many of my aunties, old old then marry, later give birth also cannot conceive...haiz!! and even if give birth, only can give one weak baby due to old age giving birth
Originally posted by Hitman+:so u let these people run and wipe off yer life slowly from u??
in fact it is possible they have china MPs with great connections in china....its already happening in some constituents or towns...i suppose it wont be long before they have some china mp pr in PAP.this china mp pr has toi have billion dollar connections to suzhou or million $$$ back in china industries.
as long as there is $$$ coming into spore mp and pm salaries...THATS ALL THAT COUNTS!
MEANWHILE THE REST OF SINGAPOREANS ARE REGARDED AS ROADKILL AND TOTALLY NEGLECTED FROM JOBS TO FUTURE.
HERE IN NZ, SOME WHITES SAY SINGAPOREANS IN GENERAL ARE RATHER POOR AND SHITTY AS COMPARED TO THE RICH TAIWANESE AND TECHNO ADVANCED SOUTH KOREANS!!!SINGAPOREANS DONT DRIVE IN NEW ZEALAND WITH THIS YEARS SPORTS CARS AND STAY ENMASS LIKE THE RICH TAIWANESE IN NEW ZEALAND .......
SINGAPOREANS ARE NOT GOOD IN MAKING ANYTHING THATS WANTED LIKE THE SOUTH KOREANS LG TV,SAMSUNG DVD PLAYER OR HYUNDAI CARS...
AND SPOREAN WEALTH CANT BE COMPARED TO THE HONG KONGERS WHO COME LOADED TO NEW ZEALAND IN PAST WITH 10 MILLION DOLLARS AND A COMPANY TO BOOT.
WHAT HAS SINGAPORE GIVEN OR CONTRIBUTED TO THE WORLD???THERES NO NAME OR GOODS PRODUCED OUT FROM SPORE AS IN SAMSUNG FROM KOREA OR EVEN CHEAP TOYS THATS MADE IN HONG KONG!!!SPORE GIVES OUT STUFF FROM ST AEROSPACE THAT NOBODY WOULD BUY AND A FAT CHANCE IF A DEAL IS EVER BROHERED IN THE FIRST PLACE!!WHAT EL;SE???CUTLLEFISH BALLS????WE DONT EVEN HAVE ANYTHING THAT WORLD REALLY NEEDS....WITH EXCEPTION OF CREATIVE SOUND LABS AND THAT TOO SEEMS LIKE ITS DYING.
WHERE ARE THE SINGAPOREANS???WORKING AS A CLEANER IN SOME FARM?WORKING AS A MILKMAN???WIPED OUT AND TRAUMATISED BY PAP AND STILL UNABLE TO RECOVER OVERSEAS???
ALTHOUGH NEW ZEALANDERS MIGHT NOT MAKE ANYTHING, THEY DO LOVE TO OBSERVE AND COMPARE.
all well, sporeans are indeed culled by PAP fm the time they are born. the culling is so successful that now PAP thinks sporeans are stupid so they rather bring in foreigners who without culling and are hungry, snap up jobs in this little red dot for a lower pay which employers accept happily. PAP believe it's more worth while giving foreigners scholarship n investing in them.
where are the sporeans ? leaving them to snap up crumbs in their home country, whilst mocked at as stupid and incompetent by their leaders n foreigners alike...
yes, this is the spore that we are looking at today. no wonder foreigners look down on local sporeans. even the leaders whom we vote into power don't look us up.
for the record, i don't believe foreigners are better or more competent than sporeans. it is only a perception which PAP is trying to psycho sporeans to believe in.
Originally posted by luvcfood:all well, sporeans are indeed culled by PAP fm the time they are born. the culling is so successful that now PAP thinks sporeans are stupid so they rather bring in foreigners who without culling and are hungry, snap up jobs in this little red dot for a lower pay which employers accept happily. PAP believe it's more worth while giving foreigners scholarship n investing in them.
where are the sporeans ? leaving them to snap up crumbs in their home country, whilst mocked at as stupid and incompetent by their leaders n foreigners alike...
yes, this is the spore that we are looking at today. no wonder foreigners look down on local sporeans. even the leaders whom we vote into power don't look us up.
for the record, i don't believe foreigners are better or more competent than sporeans. it is only a perception which PAP is trying to psycho sporeans to believe in.
That's why they got PAP childcare, PAP nursery pre school, and PAP kindergarden, once the parent leave their kids there, they start to program the kids with PAP softwares.
And not all singapore are culled by PAP, luckily for me and HITMAN, we got anti virus shield protection.
Originally posted by Samuel Lee:U joker la, I 19, so old meh?
By the way, u r weird, some times pro PAP and now not. Which side r u standing?
Be wary of this type of person, a double-headed snake. This type superb in backstabbing to ruin others for personal benefits.
Originally posted by One Harmonius Blend:
1st point - Which century is this now? if you say is the 1870s-1890s in europe i accept.
She is posting all garbage to derail threads.
Originally posted by MissZ:So sad..Heard from someone that NTU(if I'm not mistaken) scholarship has this clause-offered to S'poreans & Chinese Nationals only! It's such blatant pampering of the PRCs!
If it's offered on merit to foreigners I have nothing to say, but...
There's something seriously wrong here.
Unfair to other nationalities.
There's something seriously wrong here. -- serving personal selfish agenda
U joker la, I 19, so old meh?
Originally posted by Dragonaxe:Are younger Singaporeans still able to trust the PAP anymore? NO
They are stealing our jobs away. Imagine 5 years down the road.
There are 6 million people in Singapore. 80% of the population are foreigners meaning 4.8 million. Imagine a small bunch of 500 thousand males protecting 4.8 million foreigners. Everyone wont even have a sense of home, there will be a high cost, PAP is destroying Singapore. At the rate we are going, Singaporeans will go extinct within 50 years.
so serious???
Originally posted by ~PEPPER~:
so serious???
YOu so ignorant?
Originally posted by Vote PAP OUT to Save SG:No wonder you have simplistic and naive political views. After you grow older your views will change already.Then you come back and look at your old posts and laugh.
Besides this, we have other adults under the same category.