8 reasons why Singaporeans should move the **** out
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1) Land prices are ever rising. With a 4 room HDB flat at $400,000 now, interest rates and a 20-30 years loan, there is probably nothing left in the CPF come retirement. What kind of price will your children pay for their HDBs 30 years down the road? If you stay in landed properties, you will be sure you can afford a few big bungalows overseas with swimming pools.
2) CPF retirement is set to rise from age 62 as the years go by. The board will not be able to support a mass withdrawal of monies from citizens and hence schemes like CPF Life have come up. Come 2013, unless one meets the minimum sum, he would have to wait till retirement age before the monery trickles to him in the hundreds monthly.
3) This place will hit a population of 6.5 million population soon. With thousands of PMETs unemployed, jobs are still going to so called "global talents", what's next? Even fresh grads out of the local universities have to compete with their foreign peers who have their tuition fees sponsored; while they have to slog for years before they repay their tuition loans.
4) The land is too small for weekend recreation. Those who have stayed in other countries will tell you that their weekends are trips to the mountains, fishing lakes, historical places, scenic train rides etc. Here in Singapore, we have the neighbourhood malls to jalan jalan.
5) The education system is too stressful and breeds the kiasu / kiasee mentality. Just take a look at the teacher's workload. If these educators are so stressed up, what more down the line to the students? Performance bonuses are paid to teachers if their students do well, what kind of stress do these teachers (especially from the top schools) put on the children? And as if school isn’t enough, they still have to go for tuition after school to ensure they score the As.
6) As long as the government does not change, so will our economic strategy. Attracting foreign MNCs to set up shop, no doubt will provide jobs but we are forever a hunting ground for cheap (albeit skilled) labour. And with the influx of foreigners, the lower and middle income class can expect their salaries to stagnate (with relativity to inflation) for a long time. The environment is such that it is pro MNCs. One good example is the GST: it was raised primarily because the corporate tax was reduced in order to continue making Singapore a competitive place for businesses. The era where passing of skills to locals is now bygone. It's long overdue that an entrepreneurial culture has not been set in place. Children only study and aspire to be ministers, doctors or lawyers.
7) A fresh poly grad can earn up to $1500 a month on average 10 years ago, today it is still the same. A fresh university grad can command on average about $2500 a month 10 years ago, today it is about $3000; not much of a change considering that HDB prices have gone up 3 folds.
8) A car here easily costs 2 or 3 times those in other countries. While you slog it off and be a slave to your car for the next few years servicing the installments, in other countries it can be paid up in the blink of an eye.
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Times are bad.
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Oh yes, even Times are not selling well, most people use internet now.
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well... other countries aint too good either.
look at EU? north american. the cost of living there aint that low.
australia salary is higher. but do note of the tax. u earn +4k/mth. be prepare for 25-30% tax deduction/mth. considering a house in perth alone cost half million now, a bowl of noodles is AUD7-10.
NZ.. dont be deceived by Lord of the rings scenerio. the security issues in christchurch is so bad, local population form own crime watch.
i had a chance to go aust. i pass it. i never regret it.
singapore is not perfect, we stay, we rectify the problems. together we can make a difference.
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Nowadays ppl dont mind migrating from 1 place to another,due to the fact that ppl from different races or countries are looking more n more alike.And thats why racism cant work well anymore.
Yesterday,i saw a Chinese women who appearance look like Westerner.I also met some Chinese or other races ppl who look like Malay or Caucasian.Perhaps this is called "Evolution".The chemical like shampoo,bodywash lotion etc,n the food we eat,makes us look more n more alike.Thats why no one minds migrating this day.
Besides,when comes to work,it doesnt mean that if ur boss or supervisor is ur same race,they wont screw u or make things difficult for u if u have problem or they dont like u.Infact,most of the time,u will find that most boss who screw u are of the same race,depending on who is ur boss.This is another reason why racism cant work nowadays.
For me,i will choose those place i can afford to live in.And if the political situation wont change in Singapore,i wont hesitate to say "bye bye" to this goddamn place.
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And also,look at most of our PAP ministers,they are also "pure Chinese".But look at their behaviour n the way they treat their own countrymen n women,n their so-called "accomplishment".
Seriously,i feel ashame of them.
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Originally posted by Howlheje:
And also,look at most of our PAP ministers,they are also "pure Chinese".But look at their behaviour n the way they treat their own countrymen n women,n their so-called "accomplishment".
Seriously,i feel ashame of them.
Pure Chinese??? not Baba meh?? -
Why should I move out of my home country?
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Why not lets move to the moon ?
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Originally posted by reyes:
well... other countries aint too good either.
look at EU? north american. the cost of living there aint that low.
australia salary is higher. but do note of the tax. u earn +4k/mth. be prepare for 25-30% tax deduction/mth. considering a house in perth alone cost half million now, a bowl of noodles is AUD7-10.
NZ.. dont be deceived by Lord of the rings scenerio. the security issues in christchurch is so bad, local population form own crime watch.
i had a chance to go aust. i pass it. i never regret it.
singapore is not perfect, we stay, we rectify the problems. together we can make a difference.
Well, looking at the more same same but different kind of country to compare singapore will be much accurate in our assessement of Singapore living condition, i take HongKong, Taiwan and S Korea, including Singapore, a total of 4 old tigers. In term of people, Singaporean are in a way more individualistic, less exposed and yet like to complain and whine more. In term of work, all 4 countries are hardworking peoples. In term of security, Singapore is much much peaceful, S Korea are facing N korea, HK has a high crime rate, Taiwan is both high in illegal activity and national security due to china pressure across the strait. In term gender, koreans and taiwanese are still very much a country where man are above woman in a social aspect, in HK and Singapore, the gender equality is in a way on the same par.
In term of freedom, S korea and taiwan got more freedom as they take on the US kind of democracy, HK which is under adminstration with big brother china looking over them, are quite strict in their freedom to express and others, same goes to Singapore, freedom is still very much restricted in certain areas.
In term taxation, Taiwan n S korea, being attached to US kind of taxation, taxed their citizens alot so as to build their military and guard their lands, HK total taxation is also higher in term of less rebates for them.
In of political scenerios, Singapore is the most stable, peace and harmony, followed by HK, then korea, and then taiwan, which for every change of govt, there will be corruption, riot, protest and so on. However, in term of innovation and technology with own industrials, singapore are far behind, for countries like korea and taiwan, they can be self dependent with their own industrial such as Acer or bubble tea, and for korea samsung LG...etc, Singapore still very much need Foreign investment and also foreign workers and talents to run the show, and that is very fragile.
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
1) Land prices are ever rising. With a 4 room HDB flat at $400,000 now, interest rates and a 20-30 years loan, there is probably nothing left in the CPF come retirement. What kind of price will your children pay for their HDBs 30 years down the road? If you stay in landed properties, you will be sure you can afford a few big bungalows overseas with swimming pools.
2) CPF retirement is set to rise from age 62 as the years go by. The board will not be able to support a mass withdrawal of monies from citizens and hence schemes like CPF Life have come up. Come 2013, unless one meets the minimum sum, he would have to wait till retirement age before the monery trickles to him in the hundreds monthly.
3) This place will hit a population of 6.5 million population soon. With thousands of PMETs unemployed, jobs are still going to so called "global talents", what's next? Even fresh grads out of the local universities have to compete with their foreign peers who have their tuition fees sponsored; while they have to slog for years before they repay their tuition loans.
4) The land is too small for weekend recreation. Those who have stayed in other countries will tell you that their weekends are trips to the mountains, fishing lakes, historical places, scenic train rides etc. Here in Singapore, we have the neighbourhood malls to jalan jalan.
5) The education system is too stressful and breeds the kiasu / kiasee mentality. Just take a look at the teacher's workload. If these educators are so stressed up, what more down the line to the students? Performance bonuses are paid to teachers if their students do well, what kind of stress do these teachers (especially from the top schools) put on the children? And as if school isn’t enough, they still have to go for tuition after school to ensure they score the As.
6) As long as the government does not change, so will our economic strategy. Attracting foreign MNCs to set up shop, no doubt will provide jobs but we are forever a hunting ground for cheap (albeit skilled) labour. And with the influx of foreigners, the lower and middle income class can expect their salaries to stagnate (with relativity to inflation) for a long time. The environment is such that it is pro MNCs. One good example is the GST: it was raised primarily because the corporate tax was reduced in order to continue making Singapore a competitive place for businesses. The era where passing of skills to locals is now bygone. It's long overdue that an entrepreneurial culture has not been set in place. Children only study and aspire to be ministers, doctors or lawyers.
7) A fresh poly grad can earn up to $1500 a month on average 10 years ago, today it is still the same. A fresh university grad can command on average about $2500 a month 10 years ago, today it is about $3000; not much of a change considering that HDB prices have gone up 3 folds.
8) A car here easily costs 2 or 3 times those in other countries. While you slog it off and be a slave to your car for the next few years servicing the installments, in other countries it can be paid up in the blink of an eye.
Well said and true.Long time since some one actually wrote something for real.
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Hmmm..so all the while,...it is unreal.
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I think the IR thing will be the last card for SG...it will not raise the wages much compared to the developed world so long as cheaper labour keep flooding in...
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Originally posted by ditzy:
Why should I move out of my home country?
You don't move, where can you find the space to accomodate more people in the country?
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though the big ticket why we are here is because of political stability...unlike red Thai now....on the other side of stability, we are also taxed heavily. Our only thing left is we own stability...we dun our hard earned money.....plus giving one good half upon divorce.....Sing Singapore! Lamentably...
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Originally posted by angel7030:
Pure Chinese??? not Baba meh??I know got 1 banana,that old man is a banana,i know that.But the rest of the PAP ministers n Government-linked companies CEOs who most of them are Chinese what,like GCT,Tony T,Wong KS,Mah BT,Ho Chin,LKY daughter etc.Look how they treat their own race,ppl,n own countrymen n women.
Damn,their behaviour make me feel so ashame to be Chinese also.
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Originally posted by Howlheje:
I know got 1 banana,that old man is a banana,i know that.But the rest of the PAP ministers n Government-linked companies CEOs who most of them are Chinese what,like GCT,Tony T,Wong KS,Mah BT,Ho Chin,LKY daughter etc.Look how they treat their own race,ppl,n own countrymen n women.
Damn,their behaviour make me feel so ashame to be Chinese also.
Sometimes, jealous and envying overtake a good man mind and beset him with evil thot....i understand. -
Originally posted by Catknight:
I think the IR thing will be the last card for SG...it will not raise the wages much compared to the developed world so long as cheaper labour keep flooding in...
oh, no, singapore will keep changing, at the fastest rate of the region, you may not recognise the skyline 5 years from now if you return from overseas. the next card will be nuclear power