Who contributed more to economic development of Singapore?
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Lee Kuan Yew or Dr Goh Keng Swee?
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Who put a zilch resource island third on the list of the world largest oil refinery in the world after S.Korea and India?
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Originally posted by Vote PAP OUT to Save SG:
Lee Kuan Yew or Dr Goh Keng Swee?
u already have your own answer right, u just want other people to say it out for u right ?
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if you want to know, ask yourself.., who is Dr Goh's boss?.
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Originally posted by mancha:
Who put a zilch resource island third on the list of the world largest oil refinery in the world after S.Korea and India?
EXXON MOBIL
You ever consider what it means to be in the top 3 ? POLLUTION.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
EXXON MOBIL
You ever consider what it means to be in the top 3 ? POLLUTION.
If you are so concerned about POLLUTION, then don't shit. Don't eat even, so that you do not produce shit. Its seems possible to survive not eating and drinking.
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http://english.pravda.ru/society/anomal/13-05-2010/113360-indian_yogi-0Indian Yogi Lives Without Food and Water for Over 70 Years
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of course Dr Goh lar. u never read ST articles on him on saturday?
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Seems like Lee Kuan Yew's only contribution to economic development of Singapore was to appoint Goh Keng Swee to economic development of Singapore, otherwise Lee Kuan Yew contributed nothing.
Still want to brag so much about economy, this Lee Kuan Yew. He is trained in law, what fuck does he know about economy?
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
of course Dr Goh lar. u never read ST articles on him on saturday?
There was a blatant lie in the ST article when they wrote that Lee Kuan Yew came back to Singapore from London and started to "plot against the colonial masters in his basement."
That is a complete lie.
Lee Kuan Yew's first political act when he came back from London was to join a pro-british party and campaign for interests of the english speaking elite which he belongs.
That was the good old days when Lee was simply Harry.
ST can so shamelessly spread lies to public.
EGISLATIVE COUNCIL GENERAL ELECTION 1951The number of elected seats increased from six to nine, while the remaining 16 appointed seats would be status quo. The British government approved the suggestion by political parties to carve the six constituencies within the city according to municipal districts, including Balestier (North), Keppel (South), Katong (East) and Tanglin (West), while the rural area was divided into three instead of two. Gone were joint districts. One of the four Non-Officio Legislative Councillors and only woman Councillor appointed was war heroine Mrs Elizabeth Choy, who contested unsuccessfully in the 1950 Municipal Commission election.
Another new additional seat was allocated to a representative from the MC. PP's main political opponent at the municipal level, LP, entered the legislative fray. Well-known Malay politician Mansoor bin Adabi, husband of Maria Bertha Hertogh (also known as Natra binte Maarof), the young Dutch woman whose parentage controversy sparked a racial riot in Singapore a year ago, planned to contest Bukit Timah under PP but withdrew his nomination at the final minute for unknown reasons.
The campaign manager for PP vice-chairman John Laycock was Lee Kuan Yew, a legal assistant in the former's law firm. Voting was again not compulsory and the privilege of only certain citizens.
Old Council dissolution: 16 February 1951 [Fri]
Nomination day: 8 March 1951 [Thu]
Polling day: 10 April 1951 [Tue]
New Council convention: 17 April 1951 [Tue]Registered voters: 48,155
Total voter turnout: 25,065 (52.1%)Election deposit: $500
RESULTS Balestier City Rochore Bukit Timah Katong Seletar Changi Keppel Tanglin Total seats = 9 -
U really hate Lee Kwan Yee alot. Think when die u sure celebrate
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Originally posted by small-man:
U really hate Lee Kwan Yee alot. Think when die u sure celebrate
Most Singaporeans will be happy when he dies.
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Old man will tell you his contribution is more important because he was the conductor of the orchestra. GKS is but a mere player in there.
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I can tell u that when old man kicks the bucket, ST will sing his praises the way no journalistic paper has ever done.
You can be sure the entire week of headlines of ALL papers from the SAME company will feature him (well, there's only one company right lol).
MOE history textbooks will be enhanced and they will glorify him as if he were a saint. That's the PAP's version of course. I believe most of us would sing a different tune.
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I just hope got one more public holiday in calendar
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This Lee Kuan Yew is really a first class liar.
I have to admit defeat in front of Lee Kuan Yew.
I can't lie and act as well as him.
"I saw Britain and I saw the British people as they were. And whilst I met nothing but consideration and a certain benevolence from people at the top, at the bottom, when I had to deal with landladies and the shopkeepers and so on, it was pretty rough.
"They treated you as colonials and I resented that. Here in Singapore, you didn't come across the white man so much. He was in a superior position.
"But there you are in a superior position meeting white men and white women in an inferior position, socially, I mean. They have to serve you and so on in the shops.
And I saw no reason why they should be governing me. They're not superior. I decided, when I got back, I was going to put an end to this."
http://angeleong.tripod.com/leeky2.html
After his education in Britain, Lee Kuan Yew returned to Singapore in 1949 to practise as a lawyer in the law firm Laycock and Ong.
He became the honorary legal adviser for several trade unions after being acquainted with their leaders (in 1951) and subsequently caught the public eye in February 1952, when the Postal Workers Union succeeded, with his guidance, in obtaining important concessions from the colonial government.
According to his memoirs and this website, Lee Kuan Yew then proceeded to form the PAP with the help of the communists.Yet these sources conveniently neglect to mention Lee Kuan Yew's involvement in the Singapore Progressive Party in the 1951 legislative elections.
In fact, Lee acted as the election agent for his boss John Laycock, helping him to manage his campaign and canvass on his behalf. (See here and here for proof) He had thus entered into politics even before he became involved in the trade unions' dispute with the British. (Polling day for the 1951 legislative elections was on 10 April, we can assume that his political activities with the SPP started months before that)
If I may speculate, LKY joined the SPP initially to build up his political career there.However when the Rendel Constitution expanded the electoral rolls to include all local-born as voters, resulting in a significant increase in Chinese voters, LKY decided to jump ship and formed the PAP in 1954 because he saw that the SPP lacked the support of the Chinese working class. (So the next time LKY condemns politicians who change political parties, you know where he's coming from)
Yet the problem isn't solely that LKY jumped ship and didn't care to tell anyone about his great experience in his memoirs.The bigger problem lies in the fact that LKY supported the SPP despite the fact that it was
A) pro-British in both its policies and in its composition of members (mostly English-speaking upper class professionals)
B) unsupportive of achieving independence (it merely paid lip-service to the idea by declaring in October 1952, its objective of Singapore achieving independence through a Singapore-Malaya merger without setting a target date)
Lee Kuan Yew's miraculous change of heart on these issues when he joined the PAP only demonstrates how the pursuit of power can sometimes make one very flexible about their beliefs. Unfortunately for us, this flexibility of LKY's did not extend to the area of political freedoms.http://us.asiancorrespondent.com/secret-blog/2009/09/is-lee-kuan-yew-more-interested-in.html
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He is really talented in bald face lying!
"Because people had to live, you've got to submit. I started off hating them and not wanting to learn Japanese. I spent my time learning Chinese to read their notices.
"After six months, I learnt how to read Chinese, but I couldn't read Japanese. I couldn't read the Katakana and the Hiragana. Finally, I registered at a Japanese school in Queen Street.
"Three months passed. I got a job with my grandfather's old friend, a textile importer and exporter called Shimoda. He came, opened his office. Before that, it was in Middle Road. Now it's a big office in Raffles Place. I worked there as a clerk, copy typist, copied the Japanese Kanji and so on. It's clerical work. "But you saw how people had to live, they had to get rice, food, they had to feed their children. Therefore, they had to submit. So it was my first lesson on power and government and system and how human beings reacted.
"Some were heroic, maybe misguided. They listened to the radio, against the Japanese, they spread news, got captured by the Kempeitai, tortured. Some were just collaborators, did everything the Japanese wanted. And it was an education on human beings, human nature and human systems of government."
http://angeleong.tripod.com/leeky2.html
His ancestors were Hakka, the Chinese tribesmen who migrated from northern China to Fujian and have a reputation for pugnacity and clannishness. Lee was a third generation Straits Chinese, however, and grew up speaking Malay, English and the Cantonese dialect of his family's maid.
Ever the pragmatist, he was later to teach himself Japanese, Mandarin and Hokkien as the political situation in Singapore required. During the Japanese occupation of Singapore he worked for a Japanese government propaganda department...
http://www.time.com/time/asia/asia/magazine/1999/990823/lee1.html
"Now, from all the already released records in London as well as other historical researches, it is clear that in launching Operation Cold Store, Lee Kuan Yew was serving the then strategic interests of Britain which wanted Singapore to continue to provide a forward military base in Southeast Asia," said Lim
"It is also now an undeniable fact that Lee worked earlier for the Japanese military during the Occupation making Britain's English materials available in Japanese-language for the occupiers," he added.http://www.singaporedemocrat.org/articlelimhocksiew.html
Seems that to succeed in politics, you must really learn how to lie.
The king of shameless lying in Singapore is not in dispute.
No one can beat him.
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So wat are you trying to say?
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He is saying Vote PAP out to SAVE SG
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Originally posted by mancha:
If you are so concerned about POLLUTION, then don't shit. Don't eat even, so that you do not produce shit. Its seems possible to survive not eating and drinking.
LOL !!!
Shit is not pollution OK ? It's BIODEGRADABLE. You can't even differentiate that from pollution.. geesh..
OFCORS I am concerned about POLLUTION. Arn't you ?
Sure, go live in your multi million condo, but die of cancers and other illness caused by POLLUTION. Feed your children petroluem by-products.
You want to eat polluted food and drink polluted water.. sure.. nobody is stopping you.
I thought you were a smart lady.. I guess I was so wrong... tsk tsk.
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Originally posted by jojobeach:
LOL !!!
Shit is not pollution OK ? It's BIODEGRADABLE. You can't even differentiate that from pollution.. geesh..
OFCORS I am concerned about POLLUTION. Arn't you ?
Sure, go live in your multi million condo, but die of cancers and other illness caused by POLLUTION. Feed your children petroluem by-products.
You want to eat polluted food and drink polluted water.. sure.. nobody is stopping you.
I thought you were a smart lady.. I guess I was so wrong... tsk tsk.
Of course, you are wrong, as usual.
You failed to see the significant of a little red dot, developing a refinery started decades ago, (by a newly formed country) into the third largest refinery in the world today.
You can only see crap.
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Originally posted by mancha:
Of course, you are wrong, as usual.
You failed to see the significant of a little red dot, developing a refinery started decades ago, (by a newly formed country) into the third largest refinery in the world today.
You can only see crap.
Yeah yeah...the price we pay for that 3rd place glory.
There are many countries with the ability to do so, but they didn't, not because they do not have the resources to do it.
Not because those big oil companies arn't eager to set one up in those countries.
Because the countries know the environmental damage refineries bring.
Yes indeed, we have been prostituting our country for economic development.
We sold off Christmas island to build a bridge.
We gave up the many pristine islands to build refineries/chemical depot for big oil companies.
We let foreigners step all over our backs so they can have a cushy retirement back in their own country.
What else is new ?
Can't see the bigger picture ? Well.. look who's talking lady !
You got kids right ? Why don't you go tell them it's OK to prostitute themselves for money to help pay the bills ? So what if they defile their own body for "economic/financial development" eh ?
Get the big picture yet ? Ok, good.
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Wow!, your perchant to be wrong knows no limit.
What more you are an insult to your own kind.
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Originally posted by mancha:
Wow!, your perchant to be wrong knows no limit.
What more you are an insult to your own kind.
My own kind ? LOL..
Dude/dudette you can't even admit what you are is a pity. I shall forgive, because you are entitled to your insecurities.
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Goh Keng Swee contribute more,just take a look at the 2 pics,u can already tell who is smarter.