Goh Keng Swee passes on
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RIP
If not for him, we wun even be able to start our economy. Jurong is macham his baby.
If not for him, we wun have an Army. Like it or not, NS came about thks mainly because of M'sia threats. They kicked us out hoping we would beg them for a merger under UMNO's condition.
If not for him, we wun have an strong finances. I think e other FM is Hon Suei Sen.
Some other founding fathers w/ vision are like the late Mr Howe Yoon Chong.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
RIP
If not for him, we wun even be able to start our economy. Jurong is macham his baby.
If not for him, we wun have an Army. Like it or not, NS came about thks mainly because of M'sia threats. They kicked us out hoping we would beg them for a merger under UMNO's condition.
If not for him, we wun have an strong finances. I think e other FM is Hon Suei Sen.
Some other founding fathers w/ vision are like the late Mr Howe Yoon Chong.
We being kicked out Msia is Singapore's version of history. Have you read the Msian version?
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
We being kicked out Msia is Singapore's version of history. Have you read the Msian version?
Dun forget the "Malaysian Malaysia" idea by e PAP was becoming a threat to e UMNO.Some figured probably Tungku knew wat the PAP preaches of equality would allow Singapore to thrive. But I think he knew as long as the idea and PAP stays in e federation, more problems would arise. For all we may know, e PAP might end up overthrow e UMNO govt if ppl have forsight of wat PAP's idea ko yok.
Nothing new, till to this day you see the problem of the BN govt over equality.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
Dun forget the "Malaysian Malaysia" idea by e PAP was becoming a threat to e UMNO.There is some intrigue behind that issue.
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
We being kicked out Msia is Singapore's version of history. Have you read the Msian version?
What's their version?
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so u havent read the Msian version then. I would say the above is a one sided conundrum of the past; true but it isn't the whole picture. LKY realised he couldn't do the independence thing alone and he had to rely on Tunku Abdul Rahman, of which Malaya had more lobbying power. Our SM knew he couldn't survive under the Malaysian idea of championing bumiputras so he wouldn't be exactly that sad to part with Msia.
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Originally posted by Vote PAP OUT to Save SG:
There is some intrigue behind that issue.
explain 1Malaysia?dun ever forget, we were intimidated. Our own PM 'has to be escorted' by MAF troopers to our own parliament back in Dec 1965!
Why? To protect MM???
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
so u havent read the Msian version then. I would say the above is a one sided conundrum of the past; true but it isn't the whole picture. LKY realised he couldn't do the independence thing alone and he had to rely on Tunku Abdul Rahman, of which Malaya had more lobbying power. Our SM knew he couldn't survive under the Malaysian idea of championing bumiputras so he wouldn't be exactly that sad to part with Msia.
Do you ever read MM's any interview? He ever said the regret he had was unable to make Malaysian Malaysia materialise.I still believe Tungku himself knew we can't be in e federation as long as ideology bet UMNO, MCA & PAP are of diff world.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
explain 1Malaysia?dun ever forget, we were intimidated. Our own PM 'has to be escorted' by MAF troopers to our own parliament back in Dec 1965!
Why? To protect MM???
There's some intrigue behind the malaysian malaysia, but I forgot the details. They can be found in Said Zahari's memoirs.
It seems that there was some sort of tacit agreement between Lee Kuan Yew and Tunku that once Singapore and Malaya merged, PAP wouldn't touch the status quo. But once both merged, Lee Kuan Yew raised the bumiputra issue to gain votes among the chinese in Malaysia.
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He introduced NS one, my cass many people scold and curse him. No joke.
Hes a greatman felt sorry for the scolding and curses he recived.
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Originally posted by Vote PAP OUT to Save SG:
There's some intrigue behind the malaysian malaysia, but I forgot the details. They can be found in Said Zahari's memoirs.
It seems that there was some sort of tacit agreement between Lee Kuan Yew and Tunku that once Singapore and Malaya merged, PAP wouldn't touch the status quo. But once both merged, Lee Kuan Yew raised the bumiputra issue to gain votes among the chinese in Malaysia.
in some sense it's true.But dun forget UMNO also tried to scratch us 1st on e 1964 S'pore state election.
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Malaysia: Merger Is a Must
Friday, Jul. 27, 1962
Ever since its victorious, twelve-year guerrilla war against Communist rebels, rubber-rich Malaya has been an eye of calm amidst the storm of Southeast Asia. From its plantations comes 40% of the world's rubber, and scores of new schools and factories give evidence of its quietly booming economy. But for some time Malaya has cast a wary eye at the spread of Communist influence directly to the south. On the island state of Singapore, Red-lining extremists threaten to topple the local government, and the British-run territories of Sarawak, Brunei and North Borneo (see map) are prey to the expansionist aims of Indonesia's left-leaning President Sukarno.
To prevent Singapore from becoming an Asian Cuba off Malaya's coast and to stimulate the development of the backward Borneo territories, Malayan Prime Minister Tengku (Prince) Abdul Rahman last year proposed a sensible solution: the formation of a Malaysian Federation.
No Altruism. The Tengku's proposal would create a new independent nation of 10 million people with an area a little smaller than Japan. The federation would provide new political stability and end the "colonialism" propaganda issue, which has been a feeding ground for Communist growth. Malaya could use Singapore as a port instead of competing with it and could channel economic and technical aid into the Borneo territories with their rich oil and rubber resources. "There's not a single railroad track in all of Sarawak," says Abdul Rahman, "and not one road connecting any of the territories with each other." But the Tengku was not being just altruistic about the Borneo lands; he wants their inclusion in the federation because, being non-Chinese, they would preserve the existing cultural balance and keep the Malay-Moslem population from being swamped by the influx of Singapore's 1,250,000 Chinese.
Last week the Tengku was in London hopeful of hammering out the final details that would make his plan a reality. Britain has already tentatively okayed the federation, exacting only the promise that it could have continued use of its military base in Singapore. Sarawak, Brunei and North Borneo have all indicated a willingness to join, mainly because it would give them their independence far sooner than they might otherwise have expected.
Only Singapore remains a stumbling block.
Chaotic Alternative. Singapore's Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew is fighting to prevent Red rabble-rousers from ousting his government before the federation can be established. The once solid majority of Lee's Political Action Party in the Singapore Legislative Assembly has been dissipated through defections to a Communist-front known as the Barisan Socialists, who have been able to marshal tremendous support among the island's underfed, underemployed, predominantly Chinese masses.
Lee's all too nimble shifting of position from right to left in the past has also cost him conservative supporters, who now maintain the P.A.P. in power only because they regard it as a far lesser evil than Communism.
Lee's only chance of saving himself from political extinction in his fight with the Barisan Socialists is to maneuver Singapore into the federation as soon as possible.
Under the terms he proposes, the island would maintain a certain measure of autonomy by controlling its own labor and education policies, would let Malaya provide for internal and external security. Communist subversion would therefore be the responsibility of Malaya's powerful and expert police system.
Naturally the Barisan Socialists rant that Malaya's government is "reactionary, repressive and misguided." scream that the Malaysia Federation plan is a "sellout" that would make Singapore's Chinese "second-class citizens."
Lee is committed to a referendum on the federation question and is campaigning hard to rally his dwindling support behind his program for partial merger. Aware that time is running out, he bluntly lays on the line the alternative to Singapore's joining Malaysia. "I'm not threatening chaos," he says. "I'm predicting it.'
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,827471-1,00.html
Note the bias in the article as protraying Barisan Socialis as "communist front", when in fact it is only a left wing political party.
PAP in their official propaganda also uses the same bias terminology to label Barisan Socialis as "communist front'. This is to manipulate public opinion.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
Do you ever read MM's any interview? He ever said the regret he had was unable to make Malaysian Malaysia materialise.I still believe Tungku himself knew we can't be in e federation as long as ideology bet UMNO, MCA & PAP are of diff world.
Haha u got to be kidding. That's his "great hindsight" and he's being diplomatic. We all know what he's thinking deep inside.
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Originally posted by -StarDust-:
He introduced NS one, my cass many people scold and curse him. No joke.
Hes a greatman felt sorry for the scolding and curses he recived.
no Army no NS, sure kena bullied.On our independence, our water supply is alrdy not secured.
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
Haha u got to be kidding. That's his "great hindsight" and he's being diplomatic. We all know what he's thinking deep inside.
if Malaysia preaches equality, we would be starved to death.You wun be joking over here alrdy.
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Naturally the Barisan Socialists rant that Malaya's government is "reactionary, repressive and misguided." scream that the Malaysia Federation plan is a "sellout" that would make Singapore's Chinese "second-class citizens."
Seems that Barisan Socialists were correct.
If Lee Kuan Yew was concerned about equality issue, why did he agree to merger plan in the first place?
Fucking hypocrite that Lee Kuan Yew.
Lee's only chance of saving himself from political extinction in his fight with the Barisan Socialists is to maneuver Singapore into the federation as soon as possible.
Singapore's Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew is fighting to prevent Red rabble-rousers from ousting his government before the federation can be established. The once solid majority of Lee's Political Action Party in the Singapore Legislative Assembly has been dissipated through defections to a Communist-front known as the Barisan Socialists, who have been able to marshal tremendous support among the island's underfed, underemployed, predominantly Chinese masses.
Lee's all too nimble shifting of position from right to left in the past has also cost him conservative supporters, who now maintain the P.A.P. in power only because they regard it as a far lesser evil than Communism.
Under the terms he proposes, the island would maintain a certain measure of autonomy by controlling its own labor and education policies, would let Malaya provide for internal and external security. Communist subversion would therefore be the responsibility of Malaya's powerful and expert police system.
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All Male Sinkies must remember Him.
Dr Goh became Singapore's first Interior and Defence Minister, overseeing the introduction of National Service!
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A Tribute to Dr Goh Keng Swee
Episode 1
. . .. Showing tonight at 7.30 pm ..... repeat telecast at 11.30 pm
on channelnews asia
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This is interesting that Dr Goh used engineers fr MINDEF to refrom MOE!
Dr Goh Keng Swee, who was then the Minister of Defence and had received these soldiers and knew what the output was, went over to the Ministry of Education and became the Minister for Education. He brought in systems engineers from Ministry of Defence to overhaul the education system. It was a systems overhaul by looking at the entire process, the input, the output, the materials, the transformation and the curriculum, asking ‘how do we do this?’ and ‘what are the tradeoffs?’.
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Prime Minister's Office - PM Lee's speech at the 9th World Principals Conference
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Tan Siok Sun 2007 - 222 页bgb
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PMO press release-
The body of the late Dr Goh Keng Swee will lie in state at the Parliament from 20 May to 22 May. The public may pay their last respects during this period. A State Funeral will be held on 23 May 2010. Further details will be announced soon.
4 As a mark of respect for Dr Goh Keng Swee, the State flag on all Government buildings will be flown at half-mast from 20 May to 23 May.FYI-State Funeral wait for LKY back fr PRC and Japan on 22 May.
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Originally posted by Vote PAP OUT to Save SG:
Seems that Barisan Socialists were correct.
If Lee Kuan Yew was concerned about equality issue, why did he agree to merger plan in the first place?
Fucking hypocrite that Lee Kuan Yew.
Lee's only chance of saving himself from political extinction in his fight with the Barisan Socialists is to maneuver Singapore into the federation as soon as possible.
Singapore's Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew is fighting to prevent Red rabble-rousers from ousting his government before the federation can be established. The once solid majority of Lee's Political Action Party in the Singapore Legislative Assembly has been dissipated through defections to a Communist-front known as the Barisan Socialists, who have been able to marshal tremendous support among the island's underfed, underemployed, predominantly Chinese masses.
Lee's all too nimble shifting of position from right to left in the past has also cost him conservative supporters, who now maintain the P.A.P. in power only because they regard it as a far lesser evil than Communism.
Under the terms he proposes, the island would maintain a certain measure of autonomy by controlling its own labor and education policies, would let Malaya provide for internal and external security. Communist subversion would therefore be the responsibility of Malaya's powerful and expert police system.
can u yell me clearly which is quote and which is your valuable words.
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Originally posted by Vote PAP OUT to Save SG:
Seems that Barisan Socialists were correct.
If Lee Kuan Yew was concerned about equality issue, why did he agree to merger plan in the first place?
Fucking hypocrite that Lee Kuan Yew.
Lee's only chance of saving himself from political extinction in his fight with the Barisan Socialists is to maneuver Singapore into the federation as soon as possible.
Singapore's Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew is fighting to prevent Red rabble-rousers from ousting his government before the federation can be established. The once solid majority of Lee's Political Action Party in the Singapore Legislative Assembly has been dissipated through defections to a Communist-front known as the Barisan Socialists, who have been able to marshal tremendous support among the island's underfed, underemployed, predominantly Chinese masses.
Lee's all too nimble shifting of position from right to left in the past has also cost him conservative supporters, who now maintain the P.A.P. in power only because they regard it as a far lesser evil than Communism.
Under the terms he proposes, the island would maintain a certain measure of autonomy by controlling its own labor and education policies, would let Malaya provide for internal and external security. Communist subversion would therefore be the responsibility of Malaya's powerful and expert police system.
With the passes on of Dr Goh Keng Swee . . .. . . Singaporeans come to reality . . . .. that LKY is not the only one .. . . contributing to the growth and development of Singapore.Lee Hsien Loong ,, ,, in Charlie claimed his father the one . .. . . . putting aside .. . . throw away those oother ministers
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Originally posted by -StarDust-:
He introduced NS one, my cass many people scold and curse him. No joke.
Hes a greatman felt sorry for the scolding and curses he recived.
Nothing wrong with NS. You should curse your officers and warrants offciers making you sign extras. -
Originally posted by we sacrifice:
With the passes on of Dr Goh Keng Swee . . .. . . Singaporeans come to reality . . . .. that LKY is not the only one .. . . contributing to the growth and development of Singapore.Lee Hsien Loong ,, ,, in Charlie claimed his father the one . .. . . . putting aside .. . . throw away those oother ministers
why he resigned early and never stay on in his career? Puzzles me. -
dunno got holiday or not?