Balcony for drying cothings in HDB flats
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Originally posted by mancha:
Your proposed law also doesn't seem to solve any problems. You are not addressing the fear of parents of children falling from the balconies.
Perhaps HDB can design it safer to children. Anyway, residents can install grill if they want.
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Originally posted by PRP:
Perhaps HDB can design it safer to children. Anyway, residents can install grill if they want.
Are you not being contradictory?
You want laws to prevent closing up the balcony, now you say can put up grill.
Put grill must maintain, laws must not allow aluminium rivets too, and every 6 June and 12 December must conduct checks.
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Originally posted by mancha:
Are you not being contradictory?
You want laws to prevent closing up the balcony, now you say can put up grill.
Put grill must maintain, laws must not allow aluminium rivets too, and every 6 June and 12 December must conduct checks.
not contradictory lah according to PRP.
When the water problem is raised with his balcony idea, he next patches up his idea and say that there should be a drainage for the water.
So, when the danger of open balcony problem is raised, he next patches up his idea and say that grill should be put up.
So, where got problem right, PRP balcony idea is the best, just that his idea has many holes now and he is trying very hard to cover the holes only mah.
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Originally posted by mancha:
Are you not being contradictory?
You want laws to prevent closing up the balcony, now you say can put up grill.
Put grill must maintain, laws must not allow aluminium rivets too, and every 6 June and 12 December must conduct checks.
Why are your knowledge so lacking?
Your should know grill and windows are different.Even with windows, some ppl put up grill for security and preventing kids from falling down.
U can keep on finding fault with my ideas but actually there are few.
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Originally posted by Devil7030:
not contradictory lah according to PRP.
When the water problem is raised with his balcony idea, he next patches up his idea and say that there should be a drainage for the water.
So, when the danger of open balcony problem is raised, he next patches up his idea and say that grill should be put up.
U can go ask an architect whether he would design a balcony but wouldn't provide drainage in it.
Windows are also dangerous for kids, what would u do?
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Originally posted by PRP:
Why are your knowledge so lacking?
Your should know grill and windows are different.Even with windows, some ppl put up grill for security and preventing kids from falling down.
U can keep on finding fault with my ideas but actually there are few.
You are getting better, you at least admit your ideas have faults, but only a few.
So the law must state clearly, that grills can be installed at balconies, but not windows.
Won't this be more dangerous, children will climb up the cage like grille because there are no windows. Grille are mostly aluminium and will most likely collapse under the weight of the children. Grille and children then becomes killer litter to those below.
This is not finding fault, but true facts.
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Originally posted by mancha:
You are getting better, you at least admit your ideas have faults, but only a few.
So the law must state clearly, that grills can be installed at balconies, but not windows.
Won't this be more dangerous, children will climb up the cage like grille because there are no windows. Grille are mostly aluminium and will most likely collapse under the weight of the children. Grille and children then becomes killer litter to those below.
This is not finding fault, but true facts.
U try to say my proposal won't work and I keep defend that it would work.
You lack common sense.What u pointed out is not a fault but your lack of common sense.
I wonder whether there are readers laugh at your comments in this thread.
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Originally posted by PRP:
U try to say my proposal won't work and I keep defend that it would work.
You lack common sense.What u pointed out is not a fault but your lack of common sense.
I wonder whether there are readers laugh at your comments in this thread.
Anyone with common sense can tell you that your proposal will never work. -
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Anyone with common sense can tell you that your proposal will never work.Really?Show me one comment which you and your group members said is valid.
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Originally posted by PRP:
Really?Show me one comment which you and your group members said is valid.
Balcony get closed up, this is something you acknowledged, and proposed laws be implemented to prevent it.
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Originally posted by mancha:
Balcony get closed up, this is something you acknowledged, and proposed laws be implemented to prevent it.
I said a balcony should not have window.So I proposed law to prohibit this.
Window and grill are 2 different things.
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Originally posted by mancha:
Balcony get closed up, this is something you acknowledged, and proposed laws be implemented to prevent it.
This point was raised by me and not from u and your group members.
Most ppl would use the balcony for what it intended.But some ppl may want to 'improve' it.They would build windows and extend their kitchen area.Then some may dry their clothing in the common corridor.
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Originally posted by PRP:
This point was raised by me and not from u and your group members.
Most ppl would use the balcony for what it intended.But some ppl may want to 'improve' it.They would build windows and extend their kitchen area.Then some may dry their clothing in the common corridor.
You say that people don't know how to use the balcony, I say that people always will close up the balcony for extra space and safety. Your proposal to counterr that is laws.
Isn't that a valid comment.Devil7030 says that you idea is full of holes, and he is correct as you keep patching up your ideas as this thread goes along.
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Originally posted by mancha:
You say that people don't know how to use the balcony, I say that people always will close up the balcony for extra space and safety. Your proposal to counterr that is laws.
Isn't that a valid comment.Devil7030 says that you idea is full of holes, and he is correct as you keep patching up your ideas as this thread goes along.
The comment was made by me and not you. So now you make use of my own comment to criticise me.I asked u which of your comments was correct?When HDB design a balcony and one want to change it to interior space,he need to apply to the authority to make the change.The authority may not approve.
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Originally posted by PRP:
Really?Show me one comment which you and your group members said is valid.
That your ideas are not for the common people of Singapore. -
Originally posted by ahtansh:
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Their laundry must be very expensive ones, need a balcony to air dry! Interesting, how come our MPs didn't think of it? Prevent bamboos and maids from flying down.
Seriously, MPs must do someting to address our problems, laundry!
Thank him
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Originally posted by PRP:
U are rich so u can buy blowing machine.Some HDB residents do not even have washing machine.There is problem of dripping water from upper floors when hanging clothes outside.That is the reason for my suggestion.Somemore,not very nice and neat to see hanging clothes outside the flats.Even Mahathir commented it is 3rd word country to let ppl to see one's panties.
Good idea, but will resident bear the cost? Not cheap to build a balcony in the old hdb flats. -
Originally posted by likeyou:
Good idea, but will resident bear the cost? Not cheap to build a balcony in the old hdb flats.
Thank you.Implementing the idea for new flats shouldn't be a problem.
When HDB did main upgrading for old flats, they even built a small room for residents.So building balcony should be affordable and the govt should give much subsidy because it is to solve a problem of the existing flats.
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PRP
Your idea of a balcony for drying clothes has already been implemented by the HDB, there is this service balcony incorporated into the flat since more than 10 years ago. All new flats have service balcony. Is it your idea?
What makes you think your idea of another balcony for drying clothes would work.
You want a balcony built out from a balcony?
Which will be closed up anyway. Singaporeans are smart enough to get round any laws.
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Originally posted by PRP:
Thank you.Implementing the idea for new flats shouldn't be a problem.
When HDB did main upgrading for old flats, they even built a small room for residents.So building balcony should be affordable and the govt should give much subsidy because it is to solve a problem of the existing flats.
So, PRP, how much does a unit need to fork out? $10,000? -
with those BTOs up, do you think it is a good idea for the govt to built balcony on old HDB flats??
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...just for drying clothes???
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Originally posted by likeyou:
So, PRP, how much does a unit need to fork out? $10,000?I don't know.Should be affordable if HDB agrees to build.The govt would susidise.
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Originally posted by PRP:
I don't know.Should be affordable if HDB agrees to build.The govt would susidise.
HDB subsidise?? depend on how much you have in your CPF lor -
Material cost + labour + professional fees x 300% less 40% = subsidised.