Mah Bow Tan good at drawing graphs

• Calvin86

  8 Apr 10, 13:48

  http://singaporemind.blogspot.com/2010/04/mah-bow-tan-we-dont-fudge-numbers.html

  Mah Bow Tan : We don't fudge the numbers....

  Yeah? But they are pretty good producing nice graphs.
  

  In yesterday's Straits Times article about HDB flats being affordable, there was this chart:
  

  
  

  It shows household income rising in tandem with HDB prices.
  

  Credit goes to Hazel Poa[Link] for unveiling the trick here. Move the base year around and you get some other interesting graphs, here's one of the graphs generated by Hazel Poa:

  
  
  Yes, not so "in tandem" if the base year was 2001. In fact only when you choose 1999 to be the base year instead of any other year in the last 10 years, you can show this "in tandem" movement.
  
  Someone dropped a comment to the previous post on the topic to say that using household income is really inappropriate.
  
  Definitions of household income[Wikipedia]
  
  1. The residents of the household do not have to be related to the head of the household for their earnings to be considered part of the household's income
  
  2.That the size of a household is not commonly taken into account in such measures may distort any analysis of fluctuations within or among the household income categories, and may render direct comparisons between quintiles difficult or even impossible.[3]
  

  Using resident (which includes PRs) household income instead of Singaporeans household income takes us even further from the real situation for Singaporeans. The fact is HDB flats are expensive and put Singaporeans in debt for 30 years and that takes away their financial ability to retire properly.
• Fallen-Angel

  8 Apr 10, 14:06

  LOL @ the topic title.

• Fuck PAP & Lee Kuan Yew

  8 Apr 10, 14:14

  hopeless case this Mah Bow Tan.

  Useless.

• multipleviews

  8 Apr 10, 15:45

  look at the graph from ST.. prices increase rapidly from 2004 onwards.. after we got a new managing director for our company (nt country! we r a company)  tat aims to increase no of employees (not citizens!!) to 6 million for this company..

  think abt it la.. MBT is only manager of a dept.. if managing diretor says sth manager can dun follow meh?? Must target root of problem de... 

• As romanista2001

  8 Apr 10, 21:24

  Mah Bow Nao is well known for being an utterly useless bum that's absolutely good at nothing apart from bootlicking and dicksucking the Lees...........

• charlize

  9 Apr 10, 11:02

  Obviously they have to give you the nice figures.

   

  Election coming.

• charlize

  9 Apr 10, 11:48

  He probably didn't have to do the chart himself.

   

  He had to instruct his ministry or HDB to come up with as best a chart as they could do based on the figures they had.

• ahtansh

  9 Apr 10, 11:52

  The chart has a little mistake, Change the words.

  Red line - IMH: The number of singaporeans admitted into IMH due to this recession.

  Blue Line -RIP: The number of Singaporeans died due to this recession.

  Chart does not show how Singaporeans felt.

• charlize

  9 Apr 10, 12:38

  Originally posted by ahtansh:

  The chart has a little mistake, Change the words.

  Red line - IMH: The number of singaporeans admitted into IMH due to this recession.

  Blue Line -RIP: The number of Singaporeans died due to this recession.

  Chart does not show how Singaporeans felt.

  Haiz.

   

  Times are bad.

• CheckmateA1

  9 Apr 10, 12:40

  Originally posted by charlize:

  Haiz.

   

  Times are bad.

  
  people are very stress du lan

• charlize

  9 Apr 10, 12:50

  Originally posted by CheckmateA1:

  
  people are very stress du lan

   

  Nonsense.

   

  In the end, they still vote for incumbent party.

   

  And then complain and suffer again for the next 4 years.

• noahnoah

  9 Apr 10, 12:52

   

  I will be v happy

  if army pay me my 300 backs

  till now still no news

  Call themself worldclass ?

• CheckmateA1

  9 Apr 10, 12:53

  Originally posted by charlize:

   

  Nonsense.

   

  In the end, they still vote for incumbent party.

   

  And then complain and suffer again for the next 4 years.

  
  i take 2 hands to clap

  cos, they fear

  so they start to whine complaint when they had a chance

  cos they so used to whining and complaining - illegally to protest, etc

• Dondontan

  9 Apr 10, 12:53

  Originally posted by noahnoah:

   

  I will be v happy

  if army pay me my 300 backs

  till now still no news

  Call themself worldclass ?

  If they don't return you, treat it that you paid for expensive buffet they gave you.

• CheckmateA1

  9 Apr 10, 12:55

  1 army officer 41 yrs went back for his 1st ict

  he whine and complaint like siao

   

• noahnoah

  9 Apr 10, 12:58

  Originally posted by CheckmateA1:

  1 army officer 41 yrs went back for his 1st ict

  he whine and complaint like siao

   

  
  har officer 41 yrs then back for 1st ict

  then this officer must be chao keng one

  knn i not yet 35 already completed all le

  i always respect officers but now haiz

  think i am better,faster and cheaper

• CheckmateA1

  9 Apr 10, 13:01

  Originally posted by noahnoah:

   

  I will be v happy

  if army pay me my 300 backs

  till now still no news

  Call themself worldclass ?

  
  for your $300.00, tried to call Ministry of Finance (paya lebar is it)