Stop suing journalists: RSF tells Singapore leaders
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Originally posted by assolingam:
Just 9 words in an article in the newspaper and IHT kena sued for $S 160,000.00.
What is your personal take on it ??
How ??
Is LKY the real father of LHL or not ??
That mistake they made was not in the article BUT THE TITLE. The article was about asian countries with leaders who got their current position via connections, and by putting LKY and LHL in they are indirecting saying that LHL got his position thru his dad. That's why IHT was sued...
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So if LHL is not LKY's son, would he be PM today?
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Originally posted by Fuck PAP & Lee Kuan Yew:
So if LHL is not LKY's son, would he be PM today?
If you don't mind getting sued...please continue...I'm sure they don't mind the extra cash.
Don't forget this is a public forum and anyone can see this...
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Why get sued? I am just asking a question about LHL.So if LHL is not LKY's son, would he be PM today? That is an innocent question.
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Originally posted by Fuck PAP & Lee Kuan Yew:
Why get sued? I am just asking a question about LHL.So if LHL is not LKY's son, would he be PM today? That is an innocent question.
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Your funeral....after all I did warn you...
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Originally posted by littlemissbonkers:
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Your funeral....after all I did warn you...
I don't understand.
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Originally posted by Fuck PAP & Lee Kuan Yew:
I don't understand.
I'll let the other forumers enlighten you -
Originally posted by littlemissbonkers:
I'll let the other forumers enlighten youSo what is your answer to my question?.So if LHL is not LKY's son, would he be PM today?
Yes or no?
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Originally posted by Fuck PAP & Lee Kuan Yew:
So what is your answer to my question?.So if LHL is not LKY's son, would he be PM today?
Yes or no?
How I know? You go and ask them directly la
I appreciate the fact that you think I'm all-knowing and omnipresent like God, but then again I think even God cannot predict events that did not happen.
By the way, I'm just a poor student who cannot afford to be sued with you.
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Originally posted by littlemissbonkers:
I'll let the other forumers enlighten youIf you think the comment by Fuck PAP & Lee Kuan Yew is harsh, you should visit the other alternative sites to see the comments they make there on the father and son team.
Fuck PAP & Lee Kuan Yew (I like your moniker, bro) is just using a swat to kill a fly compared to the heavy artillery they use there...
Over there, some even use a nuclear bomb to kill that poor fly.
Anyway, what is so wrong to ask if LHL is the son of LKY ??
You are more liable to be sued if you say otherhwise.
Isn't it ??
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Originally posted by littlemissbonkers:
By the way, I'm just a poor student who cannot afford to be sued with you.
Who is going to sue you? You talk strange things.
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Originally posted by Fuck PAP & Lee Kuan Yew:
Who is going to sue you? You talk strange things.
Diaoz...nevermind....
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Originally posted by littlemissbonkers:
Diaoz...nevermind....
You are just a small fry, why would anybody bother to sue you? You scare yourself only lah.
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Originally posted by Fuck PAP & Lee Kuan Yew:
You are just a small fry, why would anybody bother to sue you? You scare yourself only lah.
We are all small frys compared to JBJ / CSJ / TLH etc..
We are no threats to them, so they are not likely to be bothered with us.
Nevertheless, littlemissbonkers is right to warn posters to be extra careful, with the words used, in our postings...
..especially about the super-sensitive father and son team.
Whatever, never be afraid to speak your mind if you feel that the Government and the Ministers are not doing the right things for Singapore / Singaporeans and deserve your criticism.
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Originally posted by assolingam:
Did you say Guess ??
No need to guess.
Here's the reason why the International Herald Tribune was sued by the father and son team recently.
"The libellous article contained only one sentence about Singapore stating the fact that PM Lee is the son of MM Lee:
“The list of Asian countries with governments headed by the offspring or spouses of former leaders is striking: Pakistan has Prime Minister Asif Ali Zardari, widower of Benazir Bhutto, herself the daughter of the executed former leader Zulfikar Ali Bhutto. Bangladesh has Sheikh Hasina, daughter of the murdered first prime minister, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman . In Malaysia, Prime Minister Najib Razak is the son of the second prime minister, Abdul Razak. Singapore’s Lee Hsien Loong is Lee Kuan Yew’s son. In Kim Il-sung’s son Kim Jong-il commands party, army and country and waiting in the wings is his son Kim Jong-un.”
Just 9 words in an article in the newspaper and IHT kena sued for $S 160,000.00.
What is your personal take on it ??
How ??
Is LKY the real father of LHL or not ??
You reproduced the whole paragraph, and you see only the nine words.
Its the whole paragraph, dude, what does it impute.
Anyway what is it the writer want to say, his own lawyers can always explain to him. And IHT have some very expensive lawyers.
Explain or pay.
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If LHL's father is not LKY; by his own merit and talents, LHL would still be the PM of Singapore today.
That is true.
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Originally posted by assolingam:
If you think the comment by Fuck PAP & Lee Kuan Yew is harsh, you should visit the other alternative sites to see the comments they make there on the father and son team.
Fuck PAP & Lee Kuan Yew (I like your moniker, bro) is just using a swat to kill a fly compared to the heavy artillery they use there...
Over there, some even use a nuclear bomb to kill that poor fly.
Anyway, what is so wrong to ask if LHL is the son of LKY ??
You are more liable to be sued if you say otherhwise.
Isn't it ??
Are you joking? Use a nuclear bomb to kill a fly? Which country did that?
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Originally posted by assolingam:
We are all small frys compared to JBJ / CSJ / TLH etc..
We are no threats to them, so they are not likely to be bothered with us.
Nevertheless, littlemissbonkers is right to warn posters to be extra careful, with the words used, in our postings...
..especially about the super-sensitive father and son team.
Whatever, never be afraid to speak your mind if you feel that the Government and the Ministers are not doing the right things for Singapore / Singaporeans and deserve your criticism.
Hmmm...lucky sometime i talk good about PAP..heng ah! -
Originally posted by assolingam:
Did you say Guess ??
No need to guess.
Here's the reason why the International Herald Tribune was sued by the father and son team recently.
"The libellous article contained only one sentence about Singapore stating the fact that PM Lee is the son of MM Lee:
“The list of Asian countries with governments headed by the offspring or spouses of former leaders is striking: Pakistan has Prime Minister Asif Ali Zardari, widower of Benazir Bhutto, herself the daughter of the executed former leader Zulfikar Ali Bhutto. Bangladesh has Sheikh Hasina, daughter of the murdered first prime minister, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman . In Malaysia, Prime Minister Najib Razak is the son of the second prime minister, Abdul Razak. Singapore’s Lee Hsien Loong is Lee Kuan Yew’s son. In Kim Il-sung’s son Kim Jong-il commands party, army and country and waiting in the wings is his son Kim Jong-un.”
Just 9 words in an article in the newspaper and IHT kena sued for $S 160,000.00.
What is your personal take on it ??
that fella is just biased, period
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If its not true,why even bother to react to people insults??? Let alone sue ppl for hundreds of thousands!
If LHL really that good,let him go America to see if he becomes American President?
We live in a society that promotes harmonious behaviour.Our Leader say we must be harmonious. The fact that LKY sue other ppl for the sake of his own pride is a very big mistake.
It only highlights the facts that if u are rich and powerful,u can do anything u wan.
How can our Leaders preach one thing and do another???
No wonder our kids nowsaday say"i sue u ah!Dun anyhow say me hor!"
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Originally posted by assolingam:
We are all small frys compared to JBJ / CSJ / TLH etc..
We are no threats to them, so they are not likely to be bothered with us.
Nevertheless, littlemissbonkers is right to warn posters to be extra careful, with the words used, in our postings...
..especially about the super-sensitive father and son team.
Whatever, never be afraid to speak your mind if you feel that the Government and the Ministers are not doing the right things for Singapore / Singaporeans and deserve your criticism.
Harry Lee and his son lhl are diabolical liars and murderers -
Below article defames LKY and his son LHL, saying that LHL is part of a political dynasty. This is not true.
LHL is not part of any political dynasty or political family. He is PM purely because of his own merits. That his father is LKY plays no role whatsoever in him being PM.
All in the Family
By PHILIP BOWRING
HONG KONG — Are political dynasties good or bad?
Election time in the Philippines is a regular reminder of the roles that feudal instincts and the family name play in that nation's politics. Benigno Aquino, son of the late President Corazon Aquino, is the front runner to succeed President Gloria Arroyo, daughter of Diosdado Macapagal, a president in the 1960s.
Senate and Congressional contests will see family names of other former presidents and those long prominent in provincial politics and land-owning.
But the Philippines is not unique. Dynastic politics thrives across Asia to an extent found in no other region apart from the Arabian peninsula monarchies.
The list of Asian countries with governments headed by the offspring or spouses of former leaders is striking: Pakistan has Prime Minister Asif Ali Zardari, widower of Benazir Bhutto, herself the daughter of the executed former leader Zulfikar Ali Bhutto. Bangladesh has Sheikh Hasina, daughter of the murdered first prime minister, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman . In Malaysia, Prime Minister Najib Razak is the son of the second prime minister, Abdul Razak. Singapore's Lee Hsien Loong is Lee Kuan Yew's son. In North Korea, Kim Il-sung's son Kim Jong-il commands party, army and country and waiting in the wings is his son Kim Jong-un.
In India, the widow Sonia Gandhi is the power behind the technocrat prime minister, Manmohan Singh, and her son Rahul is showing political promise and being groomed in the hope of leading the Congress party and eventually filling the post of prime minister, first occupied by his great grandfather Jawaharlal Nehru.
In Japan, Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama is the scion of a Kennedy-like political dynasty: His father was a foreign minister, and his grandfather was a prime minister.
Indonesia's last president, Megawati Sukarnoputri, is the daughter of its first, and family ties could well play in the next presidential election when the incumbent, President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, must retire. In Myanmar, the durability of the opposition to the military owes much to the name of Aung San Suu Kyi's independence-hero father as well as to her stoicism.
Thailand lacks obvious political dynasties but that is likely because there is already a monarch. South Korea's rough and tumble democracy would seem to leave little scope for dynasties but even there, the political career of Park Chung Hee's daughter, Park Geun Hye, has benefited much from her father's reputation.
With the exception of North Korea, Asian dynasties are a phenomenon of countries that are more or less democratic.
In China, family connections help immensely but the party is still a relatively meritocratic hierarchy. Vietnam is similar. In the Philippines, it is easy to blame dynastic tendencies for the nation's stark economic failures. But its problems go much deeper into the social structure and the way the political system entrenches a selfish elite. It is a symptom not the cause of the malaise.
In India, the Gandhi name has been an important element in ensuring that Congress remains a major national force at a time when the growth of regional, caste and language based parties have added to the problems of governing such a diverse country. In Bangladesh, years of fierce rivalry between Sheikh Hasina, daughter of one murdered president and widow of another, have been a debilitating factor in democratic politics. But their parties needed their family names to provide cohesion and without them there could have been much more overt military intervention. Ms. Megawati was a poor leader but just by being there helped the consolidation of the post-Suharto democracy.
Dynasties can be stultifying too. In Malaysia, the ruling party was once a grassroots organization where upstarts like former Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad could flourish but over time it has become a self-perpetuating patronage machine. Too many of the key players are the offspring or relatives of former leaders.
There are more fundamental problems, too. Most current Asian dynasties trace themselves to the post-1945 political transformation. In that sense they have become a crutch, reflecting a failure to devise systems for the transfer of power to new names, faces and ideas.
Dynasties are a poor commentary on the depth of democracy in their countries. Without parties with a coherent organization and a set of ideas, politics becomes about personalities alone and name recognition more important than competence. Parties run by the elite offspring of past heroes easily degenerate into self-serving patronage systems.
So dynastic leadership in Asia's quasi-democracies can provide a focus for nations, a glue for parties, an identity substitute in countries that used to be run by kings and sultans. But it is more a symptom of underlying problems than an example to be followed. -
Originally posted by mancha:
You reproduced the whole paragraph, and you see only the nine words.
Its the whole paragraph, dude, what does it impute.
Anyway what is it the writer want to say, his own lawyers can always explain to him. And IHT have some very expensive lawyers.
Explain or pay.
Aiyah... 10,000 people read the article 9,999 don't see any problem with it, or even bother about it, except the super-sensitive father and son team.
If anybody should sue IHT from that article, it should be Malaysian PM Najib Rajak.
His father passed away years ago, and there have been 4 PMs in Malaysia since then, so where is the nepotism in his case ??
The defamation suit against IHT just shows how petty the father and son team is, and make them (as well as Singapore ??) a laughing stork...
The love letter they received from Reporters Sans Frontier is well-deserved, in my opinion.
If LKY is not the faher of LHL then who is the real father ??
That's something for you to ponder.
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Originally posted by Samuel Lee:
Are you joking? Use a nuclear bomb to kill a fly? Which country did that?
Re-read my comment again lah, Sam.
It's nothing to do with a country, but about comments made in other alternative site forums that will make even the most thick-skinned person cry, let alone a super-sensitive father and son team...
For them, it will be like being hit by a nuclear bomb.