as i said many times, it is alway the next generation we are talking about, foreigner coming here are trying to adapt and we, are trying to get rid of them as we they are like a stranger coming to our house. This will go on for a while, at present, it is like going thru a stormy relationship, but when the storm is over, we will see the sunshine and that may not be in our generation.
Remember when our forefather chinese arrive here, nobody understand english or malay, we are consider 4th class, but our forefather struggle on, and the original peoples rebel against the chinese/indian coming, but as day goes by, generation after generation, we all become one citizen, one singapore, one nation. And all of the sudden, another big group of immigrants coming in and we, now acting as the origin of these land, will sure to rebel and revolt, that is understandable, but when our generation and their generation begin to form up, you will see Singapore booming for another 100 years. At that time a foreigner grand son will be a true singapore soldier.
Till then, seeya
Originally posted by angel7030:as i said many times, it is alway the next generation we are talking about, foreigner coming here are trying to adapt and we, are trying to get rid of them as we they are like a stranger coming to our house. This will go on for a while, at present, it is like going thru a stormy relationship, but when the storm is over, we will see the sunshine and that may not be in our generation.
Remember when our forefather chinese arrive here, nobody understand english or malay, we are consider 4th class, but our forefather struggle on, and the original peoples rebel against the chinese/indian coming, but as day goes by, generation after generation, we all become one citizen, one singapore, one nation. And all of the sudden, another big group of immigrants coming in and we, now acting as the origin of these land, will sure to rebel and revolt, that is understandable, but when our generation and their generation begin to form up, you will see Singapore booming for another 100 years. At that time a foreigner grand son will be a true singapore soldier.
Till then, seeya
Yes time for you to go and sleep and dream about your 4 fathers>Sweet Dreams
as i said many times, it is alway the next generation we are talking about, foreigner coming here are trying to adapt and we, are trying to get rid of them as we they are like a stranger coming to our house. This will go on for a while, at present, it is like going thru a stormy relationship, but when the storm is over, we will see the sunshine and that may not be in our generation.
Remember when our forefather chinese arrive here, nobody understand english or malay, we are consider 4th class, but our forefather struggle on, and the original peoples rebel against the chinese/indian coming, but as day goes by, generation after generation, we all become one citizen, one singapore, one nation. And all of the sudden, another big group of immigrants coming in and we, now acting as the origin of these land, will sure to rebel and revolt, that is understandable, but when our generation and their generation begin to form up, you will see Singapore booming for another 100 years. At that time a foreigner grand son will be a true singapore soldier.
Wow, you tell bedtime story ah? Angel can you don't so boh liao can or not?
What generation? who cares ? I was born yet. Angel teacher don't give us history lesson can or not. How about sex education, are you feeling horny?
Originally posted by Brandon kuan:as i said many times, it is alway the next generation we are talking about, foreigner coming here are trying to adapt and we, are trying to get rid of them as we they are like a stranger coming to our house. This will go on for a while, at present, it is like going thru a stormy relationship, but when the storm is over, we will see the sunshine and that may not be in our generation.
Remember when our forefather chinese arrive here, nobody understand english or malay, we are consider 4th class, but our forefather struggle on, and the original peoples rebel against the chinese/indian coming, but as day goes by, generation after generation, we all become one citizen, one singapore, one nation. And all of the sudden, another big group of immigrants coming in and we, now acting as the origin of these land, will sure to rebel and revolt, that is understandable, but when our generation and their generation begin to form up, you will see Singapore booming for another 100 years. At that time a foreigner grand son will be a true singapore soldier.
Wow, you tell bedtime story ah? Angel can you don't so boh liao can or not?
What generation? who cares ? I was born yet. Angel teacher don't give us history lesson can or not. How about sex education, are you feeling horny?
Uncle, u are suppose to second my opinon, not against it, if u dun like it , just keep quiet lah,
Uncle, u are suppose to second my opinon, not against it, if u dun like it , just keep quiet lah,
Angel, why you so like dat want? This forum your father open want is it? I cannot give opinon ah?
So, you another Saddam Hussien is it? Little girl want to be Dictator.
I like to talk like that cannot meh? You not happy is it? Eat me lah?
last time 'foreigners' really they have little education and mindset is different from foreigners now. still anything military no foriegners please.
last time 'foreigners' really they have little education and mindset is different from foreigners now. still anything military no foriegners please.
Angel why you change name? please explain? can you explain why you change name?
You don't like angel anymore, b'cos you no more angel?
Now your name is even more funny, Kcockicht? what kind of lously name is this?
Angel, you damn boh liao nothing to do is it?
Why you no boyfriend? can you explain to us why you no boyfriend?
Under the name of Angel you post 19,000 times
Under this silly name K-cock-icht you post 1,6965 times
What other names you have somemore? very free hor, nothing to do, ah?
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How could the PM ever been a good Platoon Commander ?
From the moment he entered the SAF as an NS recruit - his career path was already to prepare him to be a General.
Every step of his life in the SAF was that of a protected White Horse - when others were trained to be Section Leader or an Officer, his training was to observe how the training is being conducted and absorbed the characteristics of the Trainer and how the contents are delivered.
Any exercise manoevres that tested the individual leadership potential will not involve his participation, as his presence was to view the overall conduct of the exercise being planned and executed.
His level of training was far higher then the value of what he can possibly gain running around, to be shouted at, and to be tested on the limits of his mental and physical endurance in exercise scenarios.
His presence was to observe the overall execution of the exercise as it unfold - much like a General observing how an army manoevre.
Was he ever a Platoon Commander, or was he not assigned to Battalion HQ straight from OCS, then onwards to MINDEF HQ ?
What possibly does he know about leading men as a Platoon Commander ?
Singapore citizens are not at advantage to have such a PM .
I think to discuss LHL behaviour as army leader is a waste of time. The result of what Singapore is today, together with the behaviour of his ministers is a reflection of his leadership style.
The PAP leaders are disconnected from the ppl, the ppl sentiments are ignored and planning for this country is done in classrooom by the so call 'elites'. How could one chart the future of the country by not touching the ground, stubbordly believing every western idologies and having no friends with its neigbours and the big dragon PRC? The Chinese still remember who visited Taiwanese Chen SB and irating them in LHL first oversea trip as PM.
Originally posted by Wmyongj:I think to discuss LHL behaviour as army leader is a waste of time. The result of what Singapore is today, together with the behaviour of his ministers is a reflection of his leadership style.
The PAP leaders are disconnected from the ppl, the ppl sentiments are ignored and planning for this country is done in classrooom by the so call 'elites'. How could one chart the future of the country by not touching the ground, stubbordly believing every western idologies and having no friends with its neigbours and the big dragon PRC? The Chinese still remember who visited Taiwanese Chen SB and irating them in LHL first oversea trip as PM.
How could LHL have been an army leader of any kind ?
His meteoric rise from 2nd LT to Major, then from Lt Col to BG was all planned and fixed as was his own place in politics to be the PM after his father had to have GCT be an interim seat warmer.
Even when he was in the SAF - he was accustomed to all the issues being ironed out for him in advance, there will be no issues with vehicle cock-ups, no ration delays from the cook-house, no messed up during recall exercises, no firing range mess - everything is always in perfect state as a well oiled military should be.
Has he ever had the opportunity to be a problem solver at the lower level ?
Even his leadership in the ‘Singapore Cable Car Accident in 1983’ - was a joke, when those who were trapped in the cable car was not rescued until some four to five hours after the incident began at 6.00pm.
During that agonising period, the rescue effort under his leadership was dithering over the few suggested options - which included sending Commandos to pull themselves across the cable to reach the bubble cars, and lower the trapped person from each bubble car by rope to the waiting pontoon below; or with the use of fire engine snorkels with their long armed platform to reach the bubble cars while afloat on pontoon.
Even when the decision to use helicopters to reach the occupants in the bubble cars - was the final option left, he insisted that Israeli 'dry run' with actual mock-up models be conducted to test the method before the move was put into operation.
It did not dawn on the BG that winching rescue operation was part and parcel of air-sea rescue operation of the RSAF - and despite the fact that the helicopter pilot was a New Zealander that was on loan to train the RSAF pilots.
Four to five hours of agonising wait, with some of the bubble cars hanging very precariously - having one of the two wheels dislodged from the cable, and already seven passengers had been earlier flung out of the bubble cars at the moment of the accident.
In any war, four to five hours would have been more then enough time for an invading army to walk into Singapore, while the dithering continue over the best method to be decided.
More then six months after the disaster, and with repeated public criticism continuing, an European reporter suddenly appeared to write an editorial contribution that it is normal for such rescue operations to take such long hours in Switzerland.
Was the reporter paid to brush up the otherwise burnished view of the Singapore operation ?
Could Switzerland be so inexperienced when cable car operation has been in longer operation there and with experiences gained from earlier cable car incidents ?
One has to revisit one of the famous speeches from LKY in the 1956 - said in the Legislative Assembly - to understand the true meaning of his words -
"Then an intimidated press and the government-controlled radio together can regularly sing your praises, and slowly and steadily the people are made to forget the evil things that have already been done, or if these things are referred to again they’re conveniently distorted and distorted with impunity, because there will be no opposition to contradict."
Originally posted by angel7030:"If we stop NS now, our national security would be in danger and our old generation uncles would felt revengeful with unfairness as they had done their NS and now being stopped"
Anyway, NS provide our handsome young men with the necessary tools that is better than other country young men.
NS teaches our boys how to be discipline, preventing them becoming gay, planing and leadership and how to think of a way out.
And also, it teaches them how to exercise well, eat well, take care of each other well and good bonding. It certainly tone our young boys up.
if you compare with young men in indonesia, india or malaysia with no NS, they have
poor discipline, gangsterism, immature, never exercise, poor in planing and leadership, sick and get ill as they grow older, not well dress up, end up with no direction in life...etc etc
So, i as a singapore gal, SUPPORT NS for our boys. Take NS as something special out of life, enjoy it and stay fit
Since ns cannot be scrape,give 2 basic needs to the ns boys.
1) Increase their ns pay to $1k+++ per month.
2) Reduce the ns to 1 year.
Originally posted by likeyou:Since ns cannot be scrape,give 2 basic needs to the ns boys.
1) Increase their ns pay to $1k+++ per month.
2) Reduce the ns to 1 year.
Hello Like you ar,
The diminishing of birth = to the diminishing of NS intake, previously per year i heard NS can take in 50,000 young men, today only 15,000 to 20,000 men per year. I think there is room to pay them higher, i shall propose to LHL in next year budget. However, the Minister of Defence Teo Chee Hean, the current aunties idol, said that, tho the intake is less, our defence budget had also reduced, as govt had transferred most of it budget into churning the economy and education. Nevertheless he added that most of the NS boys are now better equipped with better qualities of shoes, shirt, masterbed, good foods etc etc (me gal dun understand much), so it is also a cost.
By reducing ns to 1 year, he added that a soldier just finished his training will not get a chance to put it on practice,..and more so, like my ex officer bf, who went training for a year may end up leaving the army for nothing to practice on. And becos 1 year training is also need to get them specialised, we separated due to time factor. He went Brunei and found a lover, and i found a richer guy.
atobe,
LHL suggested dumb ideas after a few hours????whats wrong with helicopters n winch from UH-1H aircraft?so simple and yet he got so many impractical n long-winded ideas!!!!!!least he could do was give trapped occupants parachute and picture instructions to werk them!
no wonder spore economy like shit since he took up trade and industry parliament position!!!
shit to you can be gold to others ya, LHL had make many rich people richer and happier, he can tax you high high but he also make sure the stock market stay high for the rich investor to gain...
angel70,
i bet u were u the one who gave LHL cancer?
u r suppose to hit him, but last minute, u cowardly withdrew, so lame of you
angel70,
hit who??no idea of hit job with lhl.
so u were u the one offering the hit jobs on LHL????!!
If only he knew her in person ...same thing,a pain in the ass!
Hello, where is your brother short ninja, and elder brother shortest ninja??
Originally posted by angel7030:Hello, where is your brother short ninja, and elder brother shortest ninja??
When the same person fuck you are you too stupid to know or your CB has become so hard like buffalo hide?
oh, u got banned too ar??? i c, dun get angry lah, just asking only mah..talk only want to F people liao,,,...so ungracious
i completed my NS and all traingin cycles. so its not my problem. my sons are not complain kings. most of them completed their NSF also they got regular jobs and still go back for ICT so its not their problem.