Ungrateful Platoon Commander, Insensitive Leeder

• quitter / loser roll back

  21 Feb 10, 08:51

  Ungrateful Platoon Commander, Insensitive Leeder

   

  I saw this pic at BigTalk [Link]
  
  I'm shocked that these words can come from a former Brigadier-General of the Singapore Armed Forces, the current Prime Minister of Singapore!
  
  “If we make it (NS and Reservist for PR) a requirement, we would not get the people we wanted. Secondly, if they did serve NS at 30, 40 and 50 years old. I would not like to be their platoon commander.”
  
  If I have not learned to be cool, calm and collected from my guru, Wisdom, the first words that should come from my mouth would be: "KNNMCCB" or, "Fcuk you, man!"
  
  
  So why am I so bloody mad?
  
  I was released from the bondage of NS and reservists' in-camp training almost 20 years ago at age 40! It hurts me to know that having been considered over the hill as a NSman at 30, I was still asked to waste my time to serve certain platoon commanders who did not appreciate my service.
  
  I do not know the context at which such stupid statement came from a statesman but to belittle the contributions and sacrifices of thousands of NSmen who serves till 40 is appallingly sick! It is so sad to know that Singapore citizens who recite the Singapore Aspiration (Pledge?) are lesser mortals in Singapore than PRs who spice up the lives of elite Singaporeans!
  
  Why such callous deed tears my guts out?
  
  At this moment, my 18 month-old grand-daughter is yearning for her father. She is fatherless for 3 weeks because her 35 year-old dad (who is my son) is out of Singapore in some godforsaken jungle somewhere doing reservist training which his Platoon Commander (if he were PM Lee) does not appreciate because he's too old to be in NS.
  
  It's all well and good when careless politician speaks of buying votes and fixing oppositions [Link] but to callously deride the sacrifices of so many true blue Singaporean NSmen is really asking for trouble.
  
  NSmen and reservists are already disillusioned by ministers who make a mockery of nation serving by paying themselves millions; the 'white horse' classification of NSmen and the disadvantage they face in equal employment opportunity [Link].
  
  Mr Prime Minister, why rock the boat further with such insensitivity?
  
  Under the current economic and social condition in Singapore,
  
  A grateful heart
  A touch of kindness
  A sense of solidarity
  A caring demeanour
  
  is what we expect from a leader.
  
  A high falutin ingrate is furthest from our minds!
  
  God bless Singapore.
  
  feedmetothefish
  

  http://feedmetothefish.blogspot.com/2009/09/ungrateful-platoon-commander.html
• Hitman~

  21 Feb 10, 09:00

  and u still wanna serve them?why?ah...i forgot they will imprison u if u dont do as they need from u.

  maybe general was drunk..on drugs...marijuana or heroine has that kinda effect right after using it .i saw it from face off film with nicholas cage snorting drugs or was it drinking it thru his nose?

  was his eyes in  a strange daze?how about white powder from his nose?if none of those.....then the general shpould go strap a bomb and cgharge ionto the enemy.no ones ghonna fight with or for him either.

   

• angel7030

  21 Feb 10, 10:09

  "If we stop NS now, our national security would be in danger and our old generation uncles would felt revengeful with unfairness as they had done their NS and now being stopped"

  Anyway, NS provide our handsome young men with the necessary tools that is better than other country young men.

  NS teaches our boys how to be discipline, preventing them becoming gay, planing and leadership and how to think of a way out.

  And also, it teaches them how to exercise well, eat well, take care of each other well and good bonding. It certainly tone our young boys up.

  if you compare with young men in indonesia, india or malaysia with no NS, they have

  poor discipline, gangsterism, immature, never exercise, poor in planing and leadership, sick and get ill as they grow older, not well dress up, end up with no direction in life...etc etc

  So, i as a singapore gal, SUPPORT NS for our boys. Take NS as something special out of life, enjoy it and stay fit

   

• Hitman~

  21 Feb 10, 10:27

  angel7030,

  last year u said aall sporean guys look like bangladeshi workers...now u say they look like handsome banglas!

  there is an instituition in every civilised country for gangsterism,poor planning,poor leadership etc.ya dun need the army to cure those teething kiddie problems.

   

• angel7030

  21 Feb 10, 10:36

  last year i below 21 yo mah, so abit immature, this year i can go IR liao, but must wait till May.

  Anyway, I am proud to be with a man who go through NS, they are more discipline and well mannered, able to control and lead the situation. Able to tolerate and endure life better than those who never serve NS. Take NS as a holiday course, a break from education, get yourself fit, learn about tolerance and endurance both mentally and physically, take it like a man, and  when you go University, you are more well prepare.

  Last time I was a brownie, i also learn alots of NS guys who come and teach us.

   

  left right, left right...blankang Pu Singh!!!

• Hitman~

  21 Feb 10, 11:21

  ALL I SEE ANGEL7030 AFTER MAY 2010 IS END UP BECOME A REAL HOOKER STANDING OUTSIDE CASINO AFTER LOSING ALL HER MONEY.SPORE CASINO GOTS NO MONEY!!!FIRST U BET $20,000 ON ROULETTE WHEEL THAN U WIN THEN U LOOSE $200,000 AFTER MAKING 30 BETS IN 30 MINUTES.

  THEN U DECIDE TO PUT IN MORE MONEY TO MAKE UP FOR LOSSES AND END UP LOSING $500,000.......AFTER THAT U SEE ON E BIG RED SPLOTCH OUTSIDE CITY HALL LOBBY!

• Hitman~

  21 Feb 10, 11:35

  but that general is trying to say he dares not force national service on pr due to foreigners not liking it,.....then we sporeans like it????ns is as bad as sipping a 1.5litre bottle of sour vinegar a day for many years till 40 years old!and t heres nothing for us to gain after all that forced down vile liquid!

   

• Ionlytalknoaction

  21 Feb 10, 11:52

  Originally posted by quitter / loser roll back:

  Ungrateful Platoon Commander, Insensitive Leeder

   

  
  “If we make it (NS and Reservist for PR) a requirement, we would not get the people we wanted. Secondly, if they did serve NS at 30, 40 and 50 years old. I would not like to be their platoon commander.”
  
  
  

   

   

   

   

  See how he give lollie pop to foreigners and crap shlt for locals who sacrifice in defending singapore.

  Haha

  Then he discriminated those at 30,40 and 50 soldiers who gave their life for their country

   

• Ionlytalknoaction

  21 Feb 10, 12:01

  Originally posted by angel7030:

  last year i below 21 yo mah, so abit immature, this year i can go IR liao, but must wait till May.

  Anyway, I am proud to be with a man who go through NS, they are more discipline and well mannered, able to control and lead the situation. Able to tolerate and endure life better than those who never serve NS. Take NS as a holiday course, a break from education, get yourself fit, learn about tolerance and endurance both mentally and physically, take it like a man, and  when you go University, you are more well prepare.

  Last time I was a brownie, i also learn alots of NS guys who come and teach us.

   

  left right, left right...blankang Pu Singh!!!

  angel7030,

  you are being delusional now.... There is nothing good you can learn from NS.

  The only thing you learn is to be angry, frustrated, became more retarded mentally and physically and intolerance of singapore people like you who talk crap when they thought they know all just because someone told them 1 command....

  U never been to the core of army's worst and yet you showed your stupidity and insane elite prostitute face in this forum and pretend you know what army is all about.....

  Karma will come for u 1 day, I am pretty certain

  Becos ppl like you make me really sick

  You should learn some manners from your elderly or they never taught you anything good but to be arrogant, elite and taking your own soldier like our minister for granted..

  One day and marked my word for it,

  if there was war here, every 1, including hypocrite like you , will be 1 of the first to run and sell off everything you ever owed in singapore here.

• zenden9

  21 Feb 10, 12:03

  Originally posted by angel7030:

  "If we stop NS now, our national security would be in danger and our old generation uncles would felt revengeful with unfairness as they had done their NS and now being stopped"

  Anyway, NS provide our handsome young men with the necessary tools that is better than other country young men.

  NS teaches our boys how to be discipline, preventing them becoming gay, planing and leadership and how to think of a way out.

  And also, it teaches them how to exercise well, eat well, take care of each other well and good bonding. It certainly tone our young boys up.

  if you compare with young men in indonesia, india or malaysia with no NS, they have

  poor discipline, gangsterism, immature, never exercise, poor in planing and leadership, sick and get ill as they grow older, not well dress up, end up with no direction in life...etc etc

  So, i as a singapore gal, SUPPORT NS for our boys. Take NS as something special out of life, enjoy it and stay fit

   

  
  Taiwanese Long John Silver, why talk so much? Even yr native Taiwan is consider abolishing NS.

  Plus there is no such thing call reservist. Becos, they are not going to be proficient in their previous military vocation  as they only come back 1month a year.

  Only Spore believe reservist come back 1 month a year can be call a soldier. It's a joke.

• Hitman~

  21 Feb 10, 12:13

  angel7030,

  we know where yer gal frend is werkin in.

  if u value her life u will do as we say.

   

   

  regards

  Hitman

• Mason H

  21 Feb 10, 12:14

  Originally posted by zenden9:

  
  Taiwanese Long John Silver, why talk so much? Even yr native Taiwan is consider abolishing NS.

  Plus there is no such thing call reservist. Becos, they are not going to be proficient in their previous military vocation  as they only come back 1month a year.

  Only Spore believe reservist come back 1 month a year can be call a soldier. It's a joke.

  haha Long Inch..

• charlize

  21 Feb 10, 12:36

  Hey, isn't this old news already?

   

  Why still drag it up?

• Brandon kuan

  21 Feb 10, 13:51

  21 yrs old still very young leh. You better take care of yourself ah girl. Wait you tuofu give people eat then you know. NS men many months don't see women become wolfman. Aunite you said you steady is a bisexual, like that means you are wrong lor, NOT all men go army is mature, discipline lor. 21 want years old you still a brownie, how many years you study in Secondary school 9 yrs i it. You must be the "oldest brownie" in the world. 9 yrs you still can't tie knots on your ropes.Young lady, you care of yourself okay, you are like sheep among wolfman

• angel7030

  21 Feb 10, 14:30

  are we out of the topic of these thread, please still to the topic, otherwise my Uncle Atobe or whatever Andrew clones will be very angry.

  Do you think we can attract FTs if we ask them to do NS?

• Hitman~

  21 Feb 10, 18:03

  dun ferget serial killers and psychos who see images of dead people.

• Bentsb05

  21 Feb 10, 19:16

  Originally posted by quitter / loser roll back:

  Ungrateful Platoon Commander, Insensitive Leeder

   

  I saw this pic at BigTalk [Link]
  
  I'm shocked that these words can come from a former Brigadier-General of the Singapore Armed Forces, the current Prime Minister of Singapore!
  
  “If we make it (NS and Reservist for PR) a requirement, we would not get the people we wanted. Secondly, if they did serve NS at 30, 40 and 50 years old. I would not like to be their platoon commander.”
  
  If I have not learned to be cool, calm and collected from my guru, Wisdom, the first words that should come from my mouth would be: "KNNMCCB" or, "Fcuk you, man!"
  
  
  So why am I so bloody mad?
  
  I was released from the bondage of NS and reservists' in-camp training almost 20 years ago at age 40! It hurts me to know that having been considered over the hill as a NSman at 30, I was still asked to waste my time to serve certain platoon commanders who did not appreciate my service.
  
  I do not know the context at which such stupid statement came from a statesman but to belittle the contributions and sacrifices of thousands of NSmen who serves till 40 is appallingly sick! It is so sad to know that Singapore citizens who recite the Singapore Aspiration (Pledge?) are lesser mortals in Singapore than PRs who spice up the lives of elite Singaporeans!
  
  Why such callous deed tears my guts out?
  
  At this moment, my 18 month-old grand-daughter is yearning for her father. She is fatherless for 3 weeks because her 35 year-old dad (who is my son) is out of Singapore in some godforsaken jungle somewhere doing reservist training which his Platoon Commander (if he were PM Lee) does not appreciate because he's too old to be in NS.
  
  It's all well and good when careless politician speaks of buying votes and fixing oppositions [Link] but to callously deride the sacrifices of so many true blue Singaporean NSmen is really asking for trouble.
  
  NSmen and reservists are already disillusioned by ministers who make a mockery of nation serving by paying themselves millions; the 'white horse' classification of NSmen and the disadvantage they face in equal employment opportunity [Link].
  
  Mr Prime Minister, why rock the boat further with such insensitivity?
  
  Under the current economic and social condition in Singapore,
  
  A grateful heart
  A touch of kindness
  A sense of solidarity
  A caring demeanour
  
  is what we expect from a leader.
  
  A high falutin ingrate is furthest from our minds!
  
  God bless Singapore.
  
  feedmetothefish
  

  http://feedmetothefish.blogspot.com/2009/09/ungrateful-platoon-commander.html

  
  such an old man liao, still dont know the meaning of deterrence strategy theory.......look at who is around us surrounding our island......and you know why we need to have NS, looking at why taiwan originally have NS and also into israel's case as peace is never something to be taken for granted.

  just have to look into recent history of how iraq just walked into kuwait without much hindrances as example, which they never thought will happen, but only waiting to happen.

  these PRs are not going to have it easy as everyone knows that their sons have to serve NS too if they stay here as PRs too....

  anyway, this is already old topic liao and still brought it up, time to retire in peace and enjoy playing with your grandchild while u can, old man....for u never know when peace will cease here without NS deterrence strategy....

   

• Brandon kuan

  21 Feb 10, 20:07

  You people hor, is out of point, out of topic. our auntie Angel is not happy already. She was saying she learning marching left and right from NS men. Err..how many years she is study in Secondary school 9yrs...she must be studying Doctrate Phd, but hor people 5 yrs finish already leh

• Rovingswordsman

  21 Feb 10, 21:11

  Many of our boys never asked for anything in return when doing NS.  However the PAP govt had cheapened the value of NS. I finished my NS, got into NUS only to find half the engineering faculty places are given to foreigners while many of my NS mates who meet the minimum qualifications got rejected.  I come out to work to find that half the executive positons are filled by "foreign talent" from third world countries.  I go for reservist only to return to find the work as I left it waiting for me to complete and had to work double time.  Then this PAP govt shirks its responsibility of taking care of its citizens by telling us to stay in old folk homes in foreign countries when we are old. Now, the PAP govt tells us to seek health care in foreign country because it is cheaper than Singapore.  If I go to the casino, I have to pay $100 while foreigners, domestic maids and foreign workers walk in for free.   This is what the govt mean my Singaporeans are special? - that we are ranked lower than maids and foreign labourers?

  Singaporeans can only conclude that NS is a bloody stupid waste of time.  It is time for change, use your vote wisely.

• Wmyongj

  21 Feb 10, 22:50

  Rovingswordsman,

  Did they really give priority for university place to foreigners? I cant believe this is happening in Sg. Not with the tax payer money we faithfully contribute to this country. No country will deprive its citizen of their right to proper eduction.

  I dont think LHL intend to cheapen NS. Reading from the comments, it seems that he was saying that if we conscript PR into natiional service, they will be too old. Isnt there a scheme whereby PR could voluntarily serve in the NS to quicken their citizenship approval?

  However, it cannot be denied that the present governement had lost their heart to serve. They are disconnected from the ppl. They failed to recongise the sentiment, especially the young Singaporean who are losing out even before they start. How can one government ever be supported when they failed to take care of its citizen. How can one government who continue to give priority to foreigners at the expense of its citizen be voted in again and again? If my children is deprived of a proper education, if they have to serve national service knowing that they will be disadvantage later, if they have to pay housing loan right from they start working to their retirement and if they have to enter the job market from university taking cheap wages equal to the Indian/Malaysian/Indonesian labourer, we really have a big big problem in sg.

• kcockicht

  22 Feb 10, 06:43

  I don't like foreigners within our ranks to serve NS as a catalst to geting pee aRses. next thing we know nbanglas will be digging trenches for us. I hate that idea in any battle situation or missions.

• angel7030

  22 Feb 10, 08:39

  The indo and philipino maids are carry those heavy army sack for our boys already, what do you expect, i had a feeling that when war comes, Gukhas will be fighting for us, bangala will do doing all the labour work such as digging and carrying, maids will be doing cooking and washing, indians will be cleaning weapons and tanks, thais will be driver and supplier, and PRC will be your platoon commander

• Hitman~

  22 Feb 10, 08:47

  rovingswordsman,

  IT MEAN SINGAPOREANS ARE BEING USED......LIKE BLOODY FOOLS.

   

• angel7030

  22 Feb 10, 09:00

  Singapore govt is cultivating a global economy, and this in turn created a global change in education and all things in our daily life , it is usual to see people get bewildered by sudden change of routine in Singaporean way of life. The message here is that we are no more a country that constrict things to ourselves anymore, it we do that, we cannot survive the next generation, as unpopular and as hard as we are criticised, we must ensure that when we meant we are going global, we mean it. And that is why you can see the liberation of education and jobs open wide to all kinds of peoples as long as they qualified.

  This is not something news, the Brits and US university are full of foreigners, they know that world cannot function by only them being educated well and get rich with it, it must operate in a way that all gain from it, as such the whole world move, and when that happen, they will be more richer. Example, if US will to keep their IT to themselves, how earth is microsoft or HP going to make money?? you need to educated the world, so that they buy your thing, adapt your culture and understand your way of life. This concepts apply here, if PRC, indian, mynmar, malaysia, thai, indon peoples get good education here, they will end up  working in a knowledge economy, reduce poverty, become more graceful, well mannered...and so on, aren't we singapore as part of this asia society going to gain from it. Think

• kcockicht

  22 Feb 10, 10:21

  Angel i agree to a certain extend. When anything touches military. Please all foreigners fcuk off. The military if operated on the right direction is a neutral party. When all else fail its marshal law the last resort. This law shall be very basic. Ensure land that belongs to sg stays so at all costs. The people that drives this engine has to be one hearted single minded. I doubt any pee arse will achieve that. Of course people will flee fear and ponder, but having an army consisting of foreigners is like jumping up and down while keeping a side arm in your hoister with the safety off.