Originally posted by likedatosocan:I dunno about you guys, i have gotten numbed about it.
How does these Losses affect citizens?
Most of them are not even concerned. So why should we be?
Allow me to digress.
For this year 2010, could we have a chronological list of price hikes?
sorry for the digression. I try to save space on this forum by writing 2 unrelated thingies in 1 posting.
did you not notice that the price of HDB continue to goes up? Ever thought that this is how their Feeder Funds work? ........ think again how does it affect Singapore....
First of all, property price hike is a stimulation to churn the economy, imagine a recession without any stimulationat all in a downturn market, i think would had been much much worst, they need stimulate something, and properties was choosen to be the catalyst for churning the economy mechanism. And to do that, they, the govt, reduced interest rate, leading to peoples thinking twice about parking their money in fix deposit, and will be more willing to buy property with borrowing at lower interest rate. Secondly, rise the cost of daily essential living needs also lead to people diverting their money into property, which is said to be a growing asset, rather than cars, fashions, gadgets or others. Thirdly, by giving PR and citizenship status to more foreigners that enable them to purchase houses, will further enhance the property market prices.
And fourthly, as saying goes, if you want to con people, do it big, you need bite a big piece out of it, otherwise, dun waste your effort, and property is the only market that they, the govt can bite you deep without even you knowing it, that is the glee of it, so people end up happily paying $500,000 + 7%Gst and other taxes for a 4 to 5 rooms HDB flat, which only took $20,000 to built it. A net profit of $480,000 + 7%. Can you imagine that???
Well, if peoples are willing to pay and hope for the best, why bother. If you dun want to buy or got no money to buy....just shut up and as usual, go for your morning toilet with a peaceful mind ya.
Govt money is our pple money.
They lost money, they need to recoup back.
How? Up whatever they can.
Originally posted by likeyou:Govt money is our pple money.
They lost money, they need to recoup back.
How? Up whatever they can.
Sure, and they can even warn you, if you dun support it, the sing dollars may go down, and that end up all of us being more poor, if Sing is equal to ringgit or rupiah, God bless us all
Originally posted by angel7030:Sure, and they can even warn you, if you dun support it, the sing dollars may go down, and that end up all of us being more poor, if Sing is equal to ringgit or rupiah, God bless us all.
Yes honey....they lost money, locals get worry.
Lost = hike
Profit = no hike
Originally posted by likeyou:
Yes honey....they lost money, locals get worry.Lost = hike
Profit = no hike
Bee,
The govt will never declare a profit, they will said, "GDP rises or growth rise by 3% or something like stock recovery etc etc" but never said they make profit, they are not stupid ok. No matter how much they make, they will just said "Lost and found"
Originally posted by angel7030:Bee,
The govt will never declare a profit, they will said, "GDP rises or growth rise by 3% or something like stock recovery etc etc" but never said they make profit, they are not stupid ok. No matter how much they make, they will just said "Lost and found"
To feed our fat ministers.
Originally posted by likeyou:
To feed our fat ministers.
No, if you look at our ministers, they are not fat, they are given top expensive slimming course with diet control to look slim so that in the eyes of the public, they are also struggling and not fat.
It is to feed their wifeys and mistresses, and also their overseas banks and leisure holiday houses....they will rather learn to cook at Paris then to eat lavishly in Singapore ya
Originally posted by angel7030:
if i dun act pro, no fun liao, understand.
So the only reason why you are pro-PAP is because you want to act as opposition for those who are against PAP?
You just oppose only for the sake, for the cause of opposing?
You don't really care or support PAP at all. Is that correct?
The total loss by Temasek Holdings and GIC last year, based on a conservative estimate, could well exceed S$ 60 billion.
"You know, the cure for all this talk is really a good dose of incompetent government. You get that alternative and you'll never put Singapore together again: your asset values will be in peril, your security will be at risk and our women will become maids in other people's country."
(Lee Kuan Yew justifying pay hikes for Singapore ministers, The Straits Times, 5 April 2007)
Looks like his, as well as our worst fears are coming true.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/09/world/asia/09iht-sing.3.5200498.html
Originally posted by ztreyier:So the only reason why you are pro-PAP is because you want to act as opposition for those who are against PAP?
You just oppose only for the sake, for the cause of opposing?
You don't really care or support PAP at all. Is that correct?
No lah, I am pro to nothing, my big 3 Samsonite language bags is alway ready to leave this country and head back to my sweet cool lakeside resort home in taichong, just worry about another landslide.
To me, i think for the citizens more than the govt, whoever is the govt is not that important, the important is citizens must have foods, a peaceful n harmony living conditions, because i believe under such conditions, any society will excel to it very best.
So far, Hougang and potong pasir, which is opposition wards, had did nothing to prove their worth, more or less, they are sailing alongside PAP and the rest of the oppositions are also not that outspoken and always talk about themselves against PAP, their historical leader under detention and their policies rather than advocate more on the citizens need of today.
So, in a sensible way, tho PAP is not perfect, (as there is never a perfect govt in this world) they did instill peace and harmony to this society, and that is one reason why Singapore go up so fast and better than other within a short span of time. Yes, govt may have gone overboard on cost of living and their pay scale, the good is that i can walk on a street at midnite without much problem, i can also choose my life, i can also get better educated and i can happily make frens here without much problem.
Having said that, as a mere citizen, what else do you want? do you want to explore the unknown?? do you want to give up all these peace and harmony condition?? Is there really a need to change our govt??? for better or worst?? and finally, do you have a thot for the citizens of Singapore before you advocate yourself to the opposition. You can't be that selfish ya.
Actually sometimes is better
not to know too much wat PaP
is doing also
know also , cant do nothing much right
Got spare cash , just go fly to resort and relax
or can book a room at resort world
too bad no more booking avil also
I think right now, pple only care whether they have jobs or not.
Whether they can feed their family and whether they have money to bring family out for shopping.
I am sure majority of the pple hack care for what GIC lost.
Originally posted by likeyou:I think right now, pple only care whether they have jobs or not.
Whether they can feed their family and whether they have money to bring family out for shopping.
I am sure majority of the pple hack care for what GIC lost.
I only worry
wat is ToTo number for tonight sia
Originally posted by likeyou:I think right now, pple only care whether they have jobs or not.
Whether they can feed their family and whether they have money to bring family out for shopping.
I am sure majority of the pple hack care for what GIC lost.
it is not a matter of heck care if GIC lost, it is the matter than they cannot do anything about it, end up all grumbling into a an emplty vessel
Right now, pple are happy if they are still employable. They happy as every month, they are being paid and go home to see his wife and children and parents.
Jobless pple are hunting for jobs....
No time for the above.
Originally posted by angel7030:
it is not a matter of heck care if GIC lost, it is the matter than they cannot do anything about it, end up all grumbling into a an emplty vessel
Yes, we can only grumble and can't do anything.... yet.
But the time for us to do something is near.
Originally posted by Chyeo1979:But the time for us to do something is near.
In this year's elections. Singaporeans will do something.
Originally posted by angel7030:
it is not a matter of heck care if GIC lost, it is the matter than they cannot do anything about it, end up all grumbling into a an emplty vessel
The way you construct your sentence reminds me that you need to be reminded to go take course to improve/ upgrade your English
Originally posted by likeyou:Right now, pple are happy if they are still employable. They happy as every month, they are being paid and go home to see his wife and children and parents.
Not sure if you're blind, deaf, or you happened to stay in some place called the ivory tower.
Originally posted by Fantagf:
The way you construct your sentence reminds me that you need to be reminded to go take course to improve/ upgrade your English
i rather learn how to make money then to improve my english, PRC dunno english also can earn alot here hor
Originally posted by Chyeo1979:
Not sure if you're blind, deaf, or you happened to stay in some place called the ivory tower.
yeah, i heard it was somewhere near Ivory Coast
Originally posted by Chyeo1979:
Yes, we can only grumble and can't do anything.... yet.
But the time for us to do something is near.
do what??? no one is even near 10% of seats won
Originally posted by angel7030:
do what??? no one is even near 10% of seats won
doesn't really concern you lah, so you no need to know.
Originally posted by Chyeo1979:
doesn't really concern you lah, so you no need to know.
me singaporean leh, what no concern me, i scare the opposition run riot and mess up the whole place and people life, including me...so what u mean by i dun need to know??