first, it was announced that the distinction between singapore citizens and foreigners will be clearer over time, so there is always a privilege in being a citizen.
then, a policy to make sure foreign service sector employees attain a certain standard of english proficiency, so singaporeans won't be wondering why the person who doesn't know english is snatching all our jobs.
now, double ballots for citizens at popular primary schools, vs 1 for PR.
keep it up and i'll consider voting for PAP.
Originally posted by sir_peanuts:first, it was announced that the distinction between singapore citizens and foreigners will be clearer over time, so there is always a privilege in being a citizen.
then, a policy to make sure foreign service sector employees attain a certain standard of english proficiency, so singaporeans won't be wondering why the person who doesn't know english is snatching all our jobs.
now, double ballots for citizens at popular primary schools, vs 1 for PR.
keep it up and i'll consider voting for PAP.
In your dreams maybe.
Originally posted by ztreyier:In your dreams maybe.
these are not jokes. real policies. the pri sch one just came out.
I sincerely think it will happen, especially if we does mass demostration, which would probably only happen when we have a catastrophic event (mass starvation cause by influx of FT?)
Sincerely by voting for PAP, you are only giving them (along with statistics to be shown to public) the illusion that YOU NEED PAP, which imo, is not likely.
Originally posted by sir_peanuts:i'll consider voting for PAP.
This is the part that is in error in my opinion.
Originally posted by ztreyier:This is the part that is in error in my opinion.
"still many good years to come and good things to happen".
miw said 2, you cannot said 1 what
Originally posted by John Penn:
"still many good years to come and good things to happen".
They lied to us.
I never heard them promising anything? Did they? Where are the evidences? xD
(end sarcasm)
I assume all government projections are all 'projections', merely there to offset future risks in population behaviour, you wouldn't want your population to worry "too much about their futures right?"
.... maybe I just don't trust sg govt in general, they control too much information. And we people mostly have short term memory.
Originally posted by ztreyier:They lied to us.
66.6 % prefer to trust them, choose to believe them
more to come
a lot of things, time will tell
Originally posted by John Penn:
66.6 % trusted them what
I think majority of voting population of Singapore never voted for PAP. Too many walkovers. Politics in Singapore is quite a charde, 5 years hold one charade elections, then implement rubbish policies that no one supports, 5 years later hold another charade elections. Cycle repeats. This is what they call "democracy".
We have to end this endless cycle of charades.
Originally posted by ztreyier:I think majority of voting population of Singapore never voted for PAP. Too many walkovers. Politics in Singapore is quite a charde, 5 years hold one charade elections, then implement rubbish policies that no one supports, 5 years later hold another charade elections. Cycle repeats. This is what they call "democracy".
We have to end this endless cycle of charades.
not easy
cos not easy to resist "goodies"
opposition only chiam, low and lim, the rest don't know
Originally posted by John Penn:cos not easy to resist "goodies"
But it's all just trickery.
Originally posted by ztreyier:But it's all just trickery.
miw never use ruse, they persuade only
all thanks to technolgy - web -youtube, etc that many around the world know what's going on
prc after graduate from local poly, work 3 yrs = pr
another 2 yrs = singaporean - if i am not wrong
man after local ns, (ict , ippt, rt, think your employers like all this)
think again!
the ans is a big NO.
Originally posted by sir_peanuts:first, it was announced that the distinction between singapore citizens and foreigners will be clearer over time, so there is always a privilege in being a citizen.
then, a policy to make sure foreign service sector employees attain a certain standard of english proficiency, so singaporeans won't be wondering why the person who doesn't know english is snatching all our jobs.
now, double ballots for citizens at popular primary schools, vs 1 for PR.
keep it up and i'll consider voting for PAP.
So, you mean Singaporeans will no longer have to compete with foreigners for jobs by accepting low, low pay ?
One word -epic failure.
they are waiting for enough foreigners to get into citizenship trap here
more collectible tax
Originally posted by John Penn:
miw never use ruse, they persuade onlyall thanks to technolgy - web -youtube, etc that many around the world know what's going on
prc after graduate from local poly, work 3 yrs = pr
another 2 yrs = singaporean - if i am not wrong
man after local ns, (ict , ippt, rt, think your employers like all this)
think again!
the ans is a big NO.
cannot underestimate the power of these
Originally posted by John Penn:
not easycos not easy to resist "goodies"
opposition only chiam, low and lim, the rest don't know
stupid, take the goodies and dont give them what they want?
Originally posted by ☃®:cannot underestimate the power of these
also, facebook, blog
Exploitation is the name of the game.
PLAY IT WELL.
Extra ballot for children of Singapore citizens to apply for places in primary schools
December 20, 2009
In another sign that elections will be called anytime soon next year, the ruling party has allocated one additional ballot for Singaporeans to apply for places in primary schools for their children to “sweeten” the ground.
The new rule will take effect from 2010. As of now, Signaporeans and PRs both have one chance to ballot which had caused considerable unhappiness among some Singapore citizens whose children are unable to get into the primary school of their choice.
Balloting is done when the number of applications is more than the available vacancies. In popular schools, Singapore citizens often have to compete with PRs for a place which led many to vent their frustration on the government for not looking after the interests of citizens first.
The issue sparked an outcry in August this year when a Mr Eduard Tay wrote in to the Straits Times Forum complaining about his son’s unsuccessful application for a place in a neighborhood school as he has to vie with children registered under Phase 1A, 2A1, 2A2, 2B and first-generation permanent residents’ (PRs) children under Phase 2C.
His letter prompted an almost immediate response from an Indian PR Mrs Sweta Agarwal who justified the equal chance given to PRs because they “pay taxes and abide by Singapore’s laws”. She also issued a veiled threat that PRs may consider leaving Singapore if their children cannot get into the schools of their choice.
Mrs Agarwal’s insensitive letter triggered a massive furore among Singaporeans. Mr Jimmy Loke replied a day letter castigating Mrs Agarwal for not taking up citizenship after a lengthy six years as a PR.
“Mrs Agarwal has the option of returning to her country to find a good school for her daughter. Mr Tay’s child does not enjoy that luxury. As a Singaporean, Mr Tay served national service for 21/2 years and spent 13 more years as a reservist. Should any government not take care of its citizens first?”, he added.
The deluge of letters published in the Straits Times Forum showed that the equal chance enjoyed by PRs in primary school application is becoming a point of contention among Singaporeans, especially those from the middle class.
Besides having two chances to ballot, school fees for PRs and foreign students will also be increased by between $36.50 and $73 per month and between $100 and $400 per month respectively from 2011, while school fees for Singaporeans will remain unchanged.
According to the state media, “these changes were announced by Minister of Education Ng Eng Hen on Sunday during a community visit and is part of the Government’s move to sharpen differentiation between Singaporeans and non-citizens.”
With more and more foreigners and PRs working and living in Singapore, the additional ballot does not increase the chances of Singaporeans getting their children into a preferred school since they now have to compete with a larger pool of applicants.
Furthermore, the token increase in school fees is of scant consolation to Singaporeans since foreigners and PRs who are able to enrol their children in Singapore schools should be pretty well to do in the first place.
Despite widespread resentment and anger at the ruling party’s pro-foreigner policy, it continues to insist that immigration is “essential” for Singapore.
In a recent speech, MM Lee Kuan Yew ticked off Japanese leaders publicly for not “adopting” Singapore’s open-door policy to replenish its declining population via immigration.
Unless the ruling party makes wholesale changes to its current policy and limit the influx of foreigners into Singapore, even two or three ballots may not be sufficient for Singaporeans in the future.
Singaporeans are so easily appeased. That is how the ruling party gets to stay in power.
Upgrade lift, give a bit of money and every vote goes to them.
Originally posted by Plastic Bag:Singaporeans are so easily appeased. That is how the ruling party gets to stay in power.
Upgrade lift, give a bit of money and every vote goes to them.
Not so easy this time because many Singaporeans lost their jobs and the government allows so many foreigners who take away the rice bowls of Singaporean workers.
These unemployed Singaporean workers cannot find jobs that cover their cost of living. They are almost sure to vote for the opposition and there are thousands and thousands of these unemployed workers.
They have let in too many foreigners.
This is just a temporary measure to make the local song.
Dun forget you and your son will be paying for the education and living cost of foreigners who will eventually take over your job and your house.
It is also another plot to "encourage PRs to take up cititzenship".