MPs in Singapore work long hours
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Originally posted by noahnoah:
I wonder his healthcare staff that sit in the meeting
together with him get paid
much a month?
LoL
All the HOD in the meetings are paid quite high.
You think machiam any nurse or doctor can sit in those high level meetings?
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Originally posted by charlize:
All the HOD in the meetings are paid quite high.
You think machiam any nurse or doctor can sit in those high level meetings?
maybe they are talking about where
to dine or which conutryclub to go
during meeting?
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Originally posted by noahnoah:
maybe they are talking about where
to dine or which conutryclub to go
during meeting?
Paris cooking class.
Only cost $35K for the whole family.
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comparison and later jealousy leads a man nowhere. everyone has different fate and path.
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i lol-ed at this article.
Slack lor.
Meeting..
Freetime update status at Facebook..
Who don't want to work long hours with million dollars salary?! -
Going to meetings is basically sitting down and talking / listening.
Ask them to do rank and file day to day operations for 18 hours a day and see whether they cry or not.
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just for show
ge coming what
so what, even they work 20 hrs - i also don't care
everyday, so many charity show broadcast in the tv
whose the person/people who donate
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they can try facing the pc for 12 hours non stop
i don't think they can tahan
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Originally posted by whycannot:
they can try facing the pc for 12 hours non stop
i don't think they can tahan
Reading emails, updating and playing facebook, surfing sgforums, chit chat on msn - 12 hours can be done.
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Originally posted by charlize:
Reading emails, updating and playing facebook, surfing sgforums, chit chat on msn - 12 hours can be done.
i don't think their eyes won't get tired.maybe look at the letter m
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argh! my shoulder! guys! visit me!
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During meeting,
their thinking.. '$$$$$$$$$$$$$$' -
Originally posted by Ajen:
During meeting,
their thinking.. '$$$$$$$$$$$$$$'
how to make more mmmmmm -
what bout the minister in charge of all those foreigners coming into singapore as engineers and managers>?\\?????how many teabreaks does he get????does he take 12 hour lunch break and 2 hr tea break or simply a few hours of break only?
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why all those pr and ft can earn so many money through high posts - why not singaporean - funny hor
singaporean must reskill upgrade this and that - in the end still they get mearge salary - peanut salary
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Originally posted by the Bear: well, no one put a gun to his head to be a mini-star and he's remunerated enough for it...
He makes it seem like going overseas is so terrible on his health.
It's like people complaining they are eating too much caviar.
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drinks too much cheap soft drinks....
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they said singaporean fussy - so some jobs went to ft, etc
just talk cock only
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wonders how people can think dresssed up ina suit fer 12 hrs in an aircon room.waaaa.....12 hrs in aircon room ....i bet theres lotsa slides n refreshments.....small biscuits with lobster slices....oysters hors'd'oveurs......sharks fins for prosperity sake............salt crackers with red n black caviar......a giant ice sculpture of a merlion surrounded by peeled cooked prawns...........roast beef and lamb in blood sauce....deep fried crabs and prawn tempura with wasabi.........cold cuts of red meat.....smoked salmon with capers.........alaskan crabs,,,,,,cold crabs with roe on......roast lamb over bbbq spit...........sashimi tuna and fresh marlin..........big japanese hum from hokkaido...........salmon roe with scallops...........penguin n walrus meat.......fresh whale meat in soy sauce.........peking duck done the traditional crispy way............camphor smoked duck ..........lush sea cucumber with roasted eel.......giant tiger prawns grilled in sambAL belachan...........porterhouse steak on hot stones............fresh raw oysters swimming in scallops ,caviar,salmon roe and fresh crab meat with slices of bluefin tuna soup........yummm...12hrs of really hard werk.....wants to do ot everyday too...
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may be their house is just nearby
or they bath and clean at their workplace
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The Foreign Talent debate: A Foreign Talent’s perspective
http://www.*************.com/2009/11...s-perspective/
By Siva, Guest Columnist
Not a single day in Singapore passes by without some debate on the huge influx of foreigners that Singapore is witnessing. If my memory serves me right, this trend started a few years ago and has steadily been gaining momentum.
Accusations emanating from both camps such as ‘Singaporeans are xenophobic’ and ‘foreigners stealing jobs’ are being thrown around so often that they are in danger of turning banal.
The Singapore government has been trying its best to maintain calm by assuring its citizens that foreigners are essential for Singapore’s future (or was it GDP?). Being a foreigner myself and having stayed in Singapore for a significant portion of my life I would like to bring my thoughts to the table.
But before that some background about me. I am an Indian from India living in Singapore for the past 11 years. I came to this beautiful country at a tender age of 17 for my education and have been staying here ever since.
I am proud to say that I have experienced Singapore and most importantly Singaporeans across a wide spectrum of its society. Something that I doubt many foreign residents can claim.
During the course of my career I have worked with people from a variety of profession. Technicians, Engineers, Managers, Scientists, Professors Etc. I have also had the unique chance of experiencing Singapore’s tertiary education from polytechnic level all the way to post graduate level. I have more local friends than friends from my own land.
It is from this extensive experience and exposure that I am saying this; Singaporeans are not xenophobic. And lately if they have been displaying what might be construed as signs of xenophobia then they are doing so rightfully!
Singapore has always been a melting pot of people of different origins and its multi-cultural setting dates far beyond its independence period. Many Singaporeans are glad that foreigners like me have made Singapore our homes and are contributing actively to the country.
I have come across many individuals who have lauded us Indians for being ‘clever’ in IT and bringing specialized expertise which is unavailable locally.
But, as I had mentioned earlier, things have changed in the past few years. From being viewed as contributors of the society foreigners are now viewed as competitors in the society. The reason though being obvious to me seems lost among certain entities trying to justify the huge influx of foreigners.
Traditionally Singapore has welcomed foreigners for two reasons. The first would be to fill positions in fields that Singaporeans shun. Examples would be construction, ship building and other labor intensive jobs that do not pay enough to maintain a decent lifestyle in Singapore.
The second would be to fill positions where there is a dearth of locally available talent. Examples would be CEOs, scientists, professionals and other specialized jobs. These reasons are fully justified and have played a huge role in the Singapore miracle that has held the entire world in awe.
However Singapore has now adopted a third reason and it is this third reason that is causing so much resentment among the local population. And that reason being to make up for a population shortage prognosticated to occur in 10 years time.
Thousands of foreigners are brought in every month because Singaporeans are not producing enough babies to replace themselves. The question to be asked is this; are enough jobs being created for this influx in the present?
If not then we have a situation where an increased number of people are competing for a fixed number of jobs. Artificial and rapid population boosts without an accompanying and proportional increase in jobs will lead to detrimental side effects such as depressed wages, lowered quality of life, lack of social well being etc. And this precisely what is happening in Singapore.
The majority of the foreigners who are brought into Singapore do not create jobs per se, they are here to work. Essentially this means you have fixed number of jobs in the pool which is being contended for by an ever increasing pool of people brought about by rapid population boosts.
Foreigners who are semi-skilled, semi-professional and non-specialized do not bring anything extraordinary to Singapore that can’t be found locally. These foreigners end up competing with the local Singaporeans on what has traditionally been their economic turf.
Is there a lack of Singaporeans with fresh-mid IT skills? Or semi-specialized mechanical engineers or electrical & electronics engineers? Or is it that enough Singaporeans can’t be trained in these areas?
Many bright and talented local graduates have now resorted to selling insurance or property or are wasting their valuable hard-earned skills in unrelated fields because their traditional economic means is now being challenged by a huge number of foreigners who if not for the forecasted population shortage have no reason to be here.
It is no wonder that Singaporeans have been expressing their displeasure and they have every reason to be so. Their earnings have steadily diminished, competition has steady risen, the cost of living has risen, they don’t have a place to fall back on unlike us foreigners and they have a minimum lifestyle to maintain.
The Singapore government’s policy of artificial population boosts is a brave and proactive one. But unless the influx is accompanied by a proportional increase in the relevant job sectors I am afraid the policy will do more harm than good and could seriously undermine the social apparatus of Singapore.
What would ensure Singapore’s continued success into the next decade is not just a population of 6.5 million but a population of gainfully employed, happy and hopeful 6.5 million people.
It is high time relevant entities realize this and work towards preserving a society that has always been proud of its multi-cultural and multi-national structure. -
Originally posted by whycannot:
The Foreign Talent debate: A Foreign Talent’s perspective
http://www.*************.com/2009/11...s-perspective/
By Siva, Guest Columnist
Not a single day in Singapore passes by without some debate on the huge influx of foreigners that Singapore is witnessing. If my memory serves me right, this trend started a few years ago and has steadily been gaining momentum.
Accusations emanating from both camps such as ‘Singaporeans are xenophobic’ and ‘foreigners stealing jobs’ are being thrown around so often that they are in danger of turning banal.
The Singapore government has been trying its best to maintain calm by assuring its citizens that foreigners are essential for Singapore’s future (or was it GDP?). Being a foreigner myself and having stayed in Singapore for a significant portion of my life I would like to bring my thoughts to the table.
But before that some background about me. I am an Indian from India living in Singapore for the past 11 years. I came to this beautiful country at a tender age of 17 for my education and have been staying here ever since.
I am proud to say that I have experienced Singapore and most importantly Singaporeans across a wide spectrum of its society. Something that I doubt many foreign residents can claim.
During the course of my career I have worked with people from a variety of profession. Technicians, Engineers, Managers, Scientists, Professors Etc. I have also had the unique chance of experiencing Singapore’s tertiary education from polytechnic level all the way to post graduate level. I have more local friends than friends from my own land.
It is from this extensive experience and exposure that I am saying this; Singaporeans are not xenophobic. And lately if they have been displaying what might be construed as signs of xenophobia then they are doing so rightfully!
Singapore has always been a melting pot of people of different origins and its multi-cultural setting dates far beyond its independence period. Many Singaporeans are glad that foreigners like me have made Singapore our homes and are contributing actively to the country.
I have come across many individuals who have lauded us Indians for being ‘clever’ in IT and bringing specialized expertise which is unavailable locally.
But, as I had mentioned earlier, things have changed in the past few years. From being viewed as contributors of the society foreigners are now viewed as competitors in the society. The reason though being obvious to me seems lost among certain entities trying to justify the huge influx of foreigners.
Traditionally Singapore has welcomed foreigners for two reasons. The first would be to fill positions in fields that Singaporeans shun. Examples would be construction, ship building and other labor intensive jobs that do not pay enough to maintain a decent lifestyle in Singapore.
The second would be to fill positions where there is a dearth of locally available talent. Examples would be CEOs, scientists, professionals and other specialized jobs. These reasons are fully justified and have played a huge role in the Singapore miracle that has held the entire world in awe.
However Singapore has now adopted a third reason and it is this third reason that is causing so much resentment among the local population. And that reason being to make up for a population shortage prognosticated to occur in 10 years time.
Thousands of foreigners are brought in every month because Singaporeans are not producing enough babies to replace themselves. The question to be asked is this; are enough jobs being created for this influx in the present?
If not then we have a situation where an increased number of people are competing for a fixed number of jobs. Artificial and rapid population boosts without an accompanying and proportional increase in jobs will lead to detrimental side effects such as depressed wages, lowered quality of life, lack of social well being etc. And this precisely what is happening in Singapore.
The majority of the foreigners who are brought into Singapore do not create jobs per se, they are here to work. Essentially this means you have fixed number of jobs in the pool which is being contended for by an ever increasing pool of people brought about by rapid population boosts.
Foreigners who are semi-skilled, semi-professional and non-specialized do not bring anything extraordinary to Singapore that can’t be found locally. These foreigners end up competing with the local Singaporeans on what has traditionally been their economic turf.
Is there a lack of Singaporeans with fresh-mid IT skills? Or semi-specialized mechanical engineers or electrical & electronics engineers? Or is it that enough Singaporeans can’t be trained in these areas?
Many bright and talented local graduates have now resorted to selling insurance or property or are wasting their valuable hard-earned skills in unrelated fields because their traditional economic means is now being challenged by a huge number of foreigners who if not for the forecasted population shortage have no reason to be here.
It is no wonder that Singaporeans have been expressing their displeasure and they have every reason to be so. Their earnings have steadily diminished, competition has steady risen, the cost of living has risen, they don’t have a place to fall back on unlike us foreigners and they have a minimum lifestyle to maintain.
The Singapore government’s policy of artificial population boosts is a brave and proactive one. But unless the influx is accompanied by a proportional increase in the relevant job sectors I am afraid the policy will do more harm than good and could seriously undermine the social apparatus of Singapore.
What would ensure Singapore’s continued success into the next decade is not just a population of 6.5 million but a population of gainfully employed, happy and hopeful 6.5 million people.
It is high time relevant entities realize this and work towards preserving a society that has always been proud of its multi-cultural and multi-national structure.well said...
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Khaw Boon Wan is a good minister.
He is the only Health Minister who has a complete knowledge of how the health sector works in Singapore. He is a not a "helicopter minister" from somewhere else. He shows genuine care for the poor, sick, elderly and the handicap and with a rational mind.
True, he is earning millions of dollars and none of us here in the sgf has this ability to earn as much or anywhere near to it. So, don't be envious of him as we do not have the same ability like him.
He has to make very difficult decisions on how the Health budegt will be allocated to each competing medical needs. Should he allocate more funds to help AIDS patients, there will be less fund for Cancer patients who need the new Cancer drugs ? His decisions will affect the lives of the patients.
He has many issues to ponder every minute and decisions to make. So, you think he is like many of the kids in sgf who will MSN, read emails, facebook, tweeters etc all the time ? Despite his busy work schedule, he is writing a blog in an effort to communicate and get in touch with the public. He does not want to make policies in an ivory tower.
Once he finds out that patients have to queue outside the polyclinics at 7 am to take numbers, and after a few days, he informs the polyclincs to let the patients to wait inside the clinic instead of outside.
Also, once he knows that patients have to wait 6 to 9 months before they can see the specialist doctors in hospitals. He instructed the hospitals to shorten the queuue period and he also makes the firm decision to recruit more doctors and enlarge the enrolment for NUS medical faculty, the setting of new medical schools with the long-term view to shorten the queue period.
He has also implemented many other policies that benefit the patients.
Nevertheless, he still has the difficulties from preventing the health cost from rising.
Just hope that he can finds ways to slow down the rise in health cost.
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They the only Singaporeans to work long hours? Only MPs in Sg work long hours? Have to tell everyone? Rubbish article.
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<no, we're all slackers.
that's why we nned to be cheaper better and faster.>
wow, charlize, your sarcasm has improved!shit min daily is real shameless!