Western Dog opens his mouth...
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Western Dog opens his mouth:
MM calls on US to retain key role in East Asia
WASHINGTON - The United States must be an important part of any new East Asian framework, Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew said yesterday, cautioning against defining the region in closed or racial terms.
At a gala dinner where he was conferred a lifetime achievement award for fostering US-Asean ties, he said that the US would remain the sole superpower for two or three more decades despite the fallout from last year's global crisis.
While China may be rapidly gaining economic and geopolitical clout, Beijing is neither willing nor ready to take on equal responsibility for managing the international system. Therefore, the US should not be shut out of any new East Asian architecture, Mr Lee said.
Kissinger, Shultz and others recall encounters with MM
It was a stormy night, but inside the Mandarin Oriental hotel ballroom, the mood was warm and celebratory, as past and present United States officials and top businessmen took turns to thank and pay tribute to the man they credit with forging closer political and economic ties between the US and South-east Asia over the past four decades. But it was some of the speakers' anecdotes of their personal interactions with Mr Lee that enthralled the audience, their stories offering a rare glimpse into the world of high-powered friendships between leaders who played a role in shaping their countries' bilateral ties and strategic views about global challenges.
Former secretary of state George Shultz, 89, highly-respected for two decades of public service, received a standing ovation as he walked up to the podium to make a speech, which he began by saying he had learned a great deal from Mr Lee.
One of the reasons he visited Singapore in 1973 - when he was Treasury Secretary in the Nixon administration - was to meet Mr Lee, who was then Prime Minister.
US-China competition yes, but conflict? No
COMPETITION between the United States and a rising China is inevitable, but conflict between the two powers is not, Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew said yesterday.
'Unlike US-Soviet relations during the Cold War, there is no bitter, irreconcilable ideological conflict between the US and a China that has enthusiastically embraced the market,' he noted in his keynote address at the US-Asean Business Council's 25th anniversary gala dinner.
'(The Chinese leaders) have concluded that their best strategy is to build a strong and prosperous future and use their huge and increasingly highly skilled and educated workers to out-sell and out-build all others.'
MM Lee on the beginning of his deep personal ties with the US
'Singapore's role will be that of a catalyst. We're a city state so we can leap forward quickly. The others have been somewhat slower because of their internal diversity, so we can act as a kind of catalyst to show them this is the way, (and) you can do it faster.
'China has found us a useful model economically. They decided not to follow the path of South Korea and Japan, of closing their domestic markets and building their own champions whether it was cars or computers...
'They took the Singapore path, invited all the multinationals to come in. And their engineers, designers are working for all of them. So in 10 to 20 years, when you get all these people to come together, you already have a little (home-made) car called the Cherry. I would be bold to predict that in 20 to 30 years, they could build a Mercedes or a Lexus. The sheer number of talent and people they have is quite scary.'
http://news.asiaone.com/News/the%2BStraits%2BTimes/Story/A1Story20091029-176516.html
Old harry, a loyal dog of the west to the end.
The british made a right move by supporting him to rule Singapore to serve western interests instead of Barisan Socalis.
An insecure western dog to the end.
I guess if you are trained from birth to be a dog, you can't really shake off the slave mentality and stand up on your two feet.
Insists on using his master's language to dominate singapore also.
A colonial mentality and a dog to the end. No hope.
We are all here typing in english because of the colonial dog mentality of this old harry.
Change name to Kuan Yew also still a dog.
This is call fate cannot change.
Born a dog must also die a dog.
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If you read his remark in the Straits Times, "cautioning against defining the region in closed or racial terms". Just who is he cautioning about this racial thing - the US or China?
It has never been a question of defining E Asia in racial term. All along, the whole E Asia region is monoracial. Not politcally or xenophobic motivated, it is a given fact.
If it is the US he is targetting, than his remark seems, all the more strange. Who is the US to define this region in closed or racial terms. The US is, but just, one of many players to have that ability to shape this region's racial composition or that big enough clout to shape policies towards E Asia with a racial twist - not without backlash, that is.His remark seems to aim at China and Japan wtih the recent the Japanese PM's visit to China and the proposed an E Asia integration.
Is his remark, a masked warning to E Asia counties against integration? I tend to believe this is the real intention. It is the only logical derivation. He went to the US to say of those nasty things he wants to say to Japan and China.
He went to China shook their hands, told them their time has arrived than he went to the US to warn the American to watch out for the E Asian bastards.
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Originally posted by 4sg:
Cunning old fox.More like hypocritical bastard.
Anyway, only morons would take the words of old dog harry seriously.
"But we either believe in democracy or we not. If we do, then, we must say categorically, without qualification, that no restraint from the any democratic processes, other than by the ordinary law of the land, should be allowed... If you believe in democracy, you must believe in it unconditionally. If you believe that men should be free, then, they should have the right of free association, of free speech, of free publication. Then, no law should permit those democratic processes to be set at nought, and no excuse, whether of security, should allow a government to be deterred from doing what it knows to be right, and what it must know to be right... "
- Lee Kuan Yew, Legislative Assembly Debates, April 27, 1955
fucking dog.
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i thought he's called henry lee
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James Wong Wing On
Malaysiakini
11 Jul 07
Encouraged by the determination of fellow former political prisoner Said Zahari to unveil the other side of history, Singapore's Dr Lim Hock Siew has also decided to publish his memoirs.
"Although I have told my story in a documentary film many years ago, I have decided to write it down myself in the form of memoirs like my ‘good brother' Said," he told malaysiakini during an exclusive interview in Kuala Lumpur.
"I am now conducting research to find out more newly declassified materials in London to link up more dots," added the 76-year old founding member of Singapore's now ruling People's Action Party (PAP).
Lim was detained without trial for almost 20 years from 1963 to 1982. (Which makes him the second longest-held political prisoner in Singapore after Chia Thye Poh)
According to him, although he was alleged to have participated in the activities of the so-called ‘Communist United Front' in Singapore from the mid-1950s to early 1960s, he was never formally charged in any open court of law for the allegation.
"I still remember even my police interrogators told me that they knew I had never been a member of any communist party or group," said Lim who was a central committee member of the opposition Socialist Front in Singapore at the time of his arrest.
He was detained during the 1963 Operation Cold Store, which saw more than 130 leaders of opposition parties, labour and student unions and journalists deemed to be left wing held as well.
Serving British interests
"Now, from all the already released records in London as well as other historical researches, it is clear that in launching Operation Cold Store, Lee Kuan Yew was serving the then strategic interests of Britain which wanted Singapore to continue to provide a forward military base in Southeast Asia," said Lim
"It is also now an undeniable fact that Lee worked earlier for the Japanese military during the Occupation making Britain's English materials available in Japanese-language for the occupiers," he added.
Lim was a graduate of Singapore's prestigious Raffles College and a medical doctor trained in University of Malaya, which was then located in Singapore.
"I was also a founder of University of Malaya's Socialist Club which became the cradle for many politicians and intellectuals in both Malaysia and Singapore who fought for independence," he recalled with a sense of pride.
"In those days, anti-colonialism was a very powerful and popular sentiment even in Singapore … I helped found the People's Action Party (PAP) to fight for the freedom of Singapore from British rule and to reunite it with Peninsula to form an united, non-communal and progressive Malaya but when Lee turned right wing and started serving British interests, the party split and I left to join the Socialist Front," he explained.
"We certainly opposed to Singapore being maintained as a military base for Britain and that was why Lee had to crush the Left in Singapore at all cost … The Left in Singapore also opposed to the 1963 merger because we thought it was an opportunistic adventure on the part of Lee who wanted to exploit Tunku Abdul Rahman's anti-communism to suppress the Left in Singapore … we wanted merger but not in the 1963 version which proved to be an utter failure just two years later in 1965.
"I was completely English-educated," stressed Lim, which was obviously a sarcastic and subtle rebuttal to the now stereotyped and widespread notion that the Left in Singapore in the 1950s and 1960s was a "Chinese-educated" phenomenon.
Political conviction
As for his detention, Lim said he did not suffer any physical torture.
"But, detention without charge or trial for an uncertain period of time is itself a form of torture, albeit a psychological one," Lim said.
"When I was first arrested in February 1963, my son was only five-months-old but when I was released in 1982, he was already studying at the Cambridge University in Britain.
"I wish to thank my wife Dr Betruce Cheng for her understanding, fortitude and solidarity for the entire period of my 20-year detention and also for bringing up our boy," he added.
Quizzed on what helped him preserve his sanity during his detention, Lim replied: "Political conviction, intellectual integrity and moral conscience".
"I certainly have no regret for my involvement and participation in politics although I had to pay a heavy price for it. I am still a socialist who believes in democracy for the people and social justice for the working classes," he stressed.
[video]: Dr Lim Hock Siew's introductory speech at Said Zahari's recent book launch of 'The Long Nightmare - My 17 Years As A Political Prisoner'.http://singabloodypore.rsfblog.org/archive/2007/07/11/lim-hock-siew-to-pen-memoirs.html
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Harry mother fucking Lee Kuan Yew - a dog of the west to the end.
Suppress local culture and try to westernise Singapore society.
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Hi, I am back...!!
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Originally posted by angel3070:
Harry mother fucking Lee Kuan Yew - a dog of the west to the end.
Suppress local culture and try to westernise Singapore society.
What westernize the old man is trying to curb civil liberties and democracy. What western country??? The police force, judiciary system even down to education institution and hospitals are controlled by by the tyrant he and his family. Westernize? Where do you got that impression? You think beautiful bay and tall buildings and clean streets make a country first world and western? Singapore is not westernized? Where is the free press? Singapore is like today's PRC only the PRC leadership is better because it is not run by any family dynasty. Go to most developed China's cities and I can bet it's not less remarkable than Singapore! Westernized? it's a fascist country. -
I pity those who holds Singapore's citizenship because by doing so he places himself and his whole family and future at the mercy of a tyrant and his family. Stripped of his dignity as free man as full developed man.
How can you be free in a society who regard their leaders as above all? There's no rule of law in Singapore only rule of lee. Sad -
Kiam Chai society, 1/4 easternize, 1/4 half westernize, half PRCnized, half Indianised, 1/4 localised and 1/4 bastardized
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angel7030 is back?from maternity ward or prison?
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Is it not ironical that the World's most successful "Communist" is telling an assembly of Capitalists of how they should conduct themselves in Asia, so as to secure the continued security well being of a clever "Communist" ?
It is most pathetic that in the early political career of MM LKY, he should be accusing everyone of his political opponents to be "communists" - when those accused were no more then "socialists" and "leftists" in their political and social beliefs.
The ‘difference between Socialism and Communism’ (*1) is like the stark difference in the colors of orange and red.
To put it in a convenient nutshell, one can explain that 'socialism' is not a political ideology, and is more about economics then politics - as it had more to do with the distribution of economic benefits.
As such, "socialism" is totally different from "communism" - which is an ideology of organising the political and social structure of societies.
Did MM LKY weaved the biggest deception on Singaporeans when he accused those who were "leftist" to be "communists" too ?
In a dissertation on the subject of - ‘What is a “Leftist” ?’ (*2) - it is interesting to note that it is purely a "political state of mind" in which the "Leftist" is more emotional in its political and ideological drive to change the status quo, compared to the "Rightist" views which may be as driven as the "Leftist" but is less violently emotional.
With such a definition of 'What is a "Leftist" ?' - could those "Leftists" be "Communist" as LKY had claimed them to be ?
If facts are to be studied, it will be seen that MM LKY is the personification of what a successful "Communist" should have been ?
LKY's political methods in dealing with political opponents are no different from the ruthlessness of Stalin's style, and the organisation of government and society bears all the hallmarks of what Soviet Communism had failed to achieve but was made successful by LKY.
Singapore today has the Singapore Government as the single biggest employer of Singaporeans, and with the Singapore Government involved in every level of social and economic activities to provide all the essential services needed by every person living in Singapore.
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Originally posted by HITMAN11111111111:
angel7030 is back?from maternity ward or prison?
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Originally posted by Atobe:
Is it not ironical that the World's most successful "Communist" is telling an assembly of Capitalists of how they should conduct themselves in Asia, so as to secure the continued security well being of a clever "Communist" ?
It is most pathetic that in the early political career of MM LKY, he should be accusing everyone of his political opponents to be "communists" - when those accused were no more then "socialists" and "leftists" in their political and social beliefs.
The ‘difference between Socialism and Communism’ (*1) is like the stark difference in the colors of orange and red.
To put it in a convenient nutshell, one can explain that 'socialism' is not a political ideology, and is more about economics then politics - as it had more to do with the distribution of economic benefits.
As such, "socialism" is totally different from "communism" - which is an ideology of organising the political and social structure of societies.
Did MM LKY weaved the biggest deception on Singaporeans when he accused those who were "leftist" to be "communists" too ?
In a dissertation on the subject of - ‘What is a “Leftist” ?’ (*2) - it is interesting to note that it is purely a "political state of mind" in which the "Leftist" is more emotional in its political and ideological drive to change the status quo, compared to the "Rightist" views which may be as driven as the "Leftist" but is less violently emotional.
With such a definition of 'What is a "Leftist" ?' - could those "Leftists" be "Communist" as LKY had claimed them to be ?
If facts are to be studied, it will be seen that MM LKY is the personification of what a successful "Communist" should have been ?
LKY's political methods in dealing with political opponents are no different from the ruthlessness of Stalin's style, and the organisation of government and society bears all the hallmarks of what Soviet Communism had failed to achieve but was made successful by LKY.
Singapore today has the Singapore Government as the single biggest employer of Singaporeans, and with the Singapore Government involved in every level of social and economic activities to provide all the essential services needed by every person living in Singapore.
Uncle, time change. How is southern thailand weather? bet it changes alot too.The communist China is having a capitalist economy, it clearly shown that with a communism politics, it can still absorb a capitalist economy. no problem, the Politburo of China will alway be the same, but the economy if changing and so does it peoples, given more freedom and wealth. Unlike their predecessor Mao, who absorb communism and also provide one the world most saddened and laughable economy that strife on internal market only. Be it the cultural revolution or the great leap, millions died under his rule and leadership. All these happen in the 50s to late 70s, that was the time when communism was feared most by the West and singapore is no different under the Brit influences.
In fact, if you look at today Singapore geopoltiical economy, it is quite the same as china, no change in the politic arenas, the only differences is that we are having the right to votes whereas the Chinese have never know what is voting.
As to why china is trying to learn from singapore, it is because our politics arena, tho a so call democratic one, seem to be so similar to them. For them is the Communist party and our, the PAP party.
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Originally posted by angel7030:
Uncle, time change. How is southern thailand weather? bet it changes alot too.The communist China is having a capitalist economy, it clearly shown that with a communism politics, it can still absorb a capitalist economy. no problem, the Politburo of China will alway be the same, but the economy if changing and so does it peoples, given more freedom and wealth. Unlike their predecessor Mao, who absorb communism and also provide one the world most saddened and laughable economy that strife on internal market only. Be it the cultural revolution or the great leap, millions died under his rule and leadership. All these happen in the 50s to late 70s, that was the time when communism was feared most by the West and singapore is no different under the Brit influences.
In fact, if you look at today Singapore geopoltiical economy, it is quite the same as china, no change in the politic arenas, the only differences is that we are having the right to votes whereas the Chinese have never know what is voting.
As to why china is trying to learn from singapore, it is because our politics arena, tho a so call democratic one, seem to be so similar to them. For them is the Communist party and our, the PAP party.
It seems that you have still not learn from the past drubbing that was dished out to you for your flippant attempts at teaching others from your shallow knowledge of what you intend to tackle.What do you understand by the term "geopolitical economy" - in your effort to impress with such a profound term that seems out-of-sync with what you have written ?
How did you manage to compare the time "when Communism was feared by the West" and "Singapore is no different under the Brit influences" ?
Are there any connect between the two statements that you made with so much hot gas inflating your position that leads one to no where ?
Have you thought about the reasons for Communist China to embrace Capitalism and yet will not abandon Communist ideology in their politics ?
While the authoritarian government maybe the same in China and in Singapore - even as Singapore has a "pseudo-democratic" system, China also has their version of election at the village and provincial level, and at their National Congress level.
Safe candidates are selected by their Central Committee and offered for balloting by the general assembly, and this is no different from the PAP methods of selection of candidates to be nominated for the assembly of trusted Party Cadres to vote.
Both the citizens of China and Singapore have similar aspirations, can be seen in the events in 1989 - when ‘a sense among the students and all the people who cheered them on in 100 cities that there must be a better way to govern the country than the use of police and the use of armed force and the lack of a space in which intelligent people could operate and perhaps give their suggestions to the government.. (*1)
Singaporeans today are as frustrated - as China's citizens were in 1989 - with the continuous humdrum of the Singapore Government dictating and controlling every aspects of our lives, intruding even into our personal spheres, but will abandon us to our own wits when the economic downturn occurs.
If you must offer something to anyone, the least you can do is not to contribute any from the ignorance of you shallow intellect.