Lim Swee Say: Making the economy and workforce cheaper
-
Originally posted by EarlNeo:
provided that u get the chance to do so...
sadly most dun....
wherever we can. wherever we can..not all of them coz really, the current opposition can't tell between their own ass and their elbows.. not a good idea to have them take over everything
-
Maybe recruit foreigners with so-called talents and employ them for 1/3 rd of the salaries of the current ministers wages and utter the same mantra they they are do: that the foreigners are subsidizing them lar. That is being exemplary and worthy of these views that he/she is espousing in the local media. Otherwise, don't go around deluding and sugar-coating what is actually crap.
Moron Minister is of the view that two-party does not work. Yes, it does not work for them, the ruling party and govt lar. Why? Cos there a lots of things that they now know they are getting away with scot-free. To cite egs, too numerous lar!
One party system is inherently flawed - no ombudsman, lack of transparency, no body really knows excepting what is dished out to us thru the local media. The latter, in malay they say - 'tak guna' which translates to unreliable and useless.
My opinion, change and change thru votes.
-
The irony of a million dollar salaried minister without portfolio in the PMO telling everybody to be cheaper and more productive.
-
Seems the thunderstrike party are the only people to deserve to be paid high salary, all the rest must get paid the lowest salary for cheaper economy.
It makes more sense to pay the ruling party less than half of what they are getting to create cheaper economy. By doing so I believe very likely there will not be so much of rapid rise in the living costs in sg.
-
Lightning strike party lah.
Thunder only goes boomz.
-
I don't know, some of us think it is thunderstrike party. Ya, you make sense.
-
Would you kindly stop bringing up Ris Low again.
That word is copyrighted.
-
Originally posted by deepak.c:
Would you kindly stop bringing up Ris Low again.
That word is copyrighted.
Thunder goes boomz what.
It's like you can't copyright a cow mooing because that's just the sound it makes.
-
Originally posted by charlize:
Thunder goes boomz what.
It's like you can't copyright a cow mooing because that's just the sound it makes.
Everytime somebody say "Boomz!" I think of Ris Low.
-
Actually, singapore is already importing the cheapest foreign labour from around the region.
How much lower can we go?
Work for free?
-
Originally posted by charlize:
Actually, singapore is already importing the cheapest foreign labour from around the region.
How much lower can we go?
Work for free?
No... Indonesian is the cheapest but for some reason. They weren't want to import from there except maid. -
Originally posted by charlize:
Actually, singapore is already importing the cheapest foreign labour from around the region.
How much lower can we go?
Work for free?
He is squeezing every half cent out of the people to create cheap economy.
The best way for him to be convincing is to volunteer he lower/reduce his pay by more than 50% and widen his job responsibilities as well.
-
I agree 1000% with Mr Lim.
Therefore, the government should illustrate the concept by leading as example.
Cheaper - Cut all minister's pay by 70%. We should be cheaper than President Obama. The pay should be earmarked with the lowest pay.
Better - One minster should head three ministries. This is the best way of showing the world that we have truly capable elite scholar running the red dot. Excess mentor, perm secretary, MP, senior ministers should not be in place as we are truly world class and not mentoring is needed.
Faster - Cut the three working day response from all government agencies to one day. If we are employing truly elite as civil servant, three days to response is not acceptable.
As for the world class transport system, cheaper, better and faster rule also MUST apply.
If the above conditions cannot be comply, then the CBF concept is not applicable.
-
Ëverything I say is only applicable to peasants. I am God, so I am exempted from these measures."
You all can go down down down and I can only go up up up!
-
Yes to that. Do away with the position Minister Mentor. Split the job of MM between SM and President. Remove the other ministers in PM's office, leave only one minister to help PM. Cut the pay of the the ministers who no longer are assisting the PM in his office.
Cut the pay of PM by 70%.
Heard from reliable source that staff at Temasek are paid bonuses a few times a year. Limit temasek to only pay bonuses once a year and bonuses paid should be up to maximum of 1.5 month.
As for all other ministers, reduce their pay by 60%.
But first let he who suggested lower pay be the one to start the ball rolling by accepting low salary. ------ Lim Swee Suay!
-
Correct me if I am wrong - there are 2 to 3 ministers in the Ministry of Education.
Why do we need more than one minister in this ministry?
Just remove the other 2 ministers and cut their pay.
-
Originally posted by Fantagf:
Correct me if I am wrong - there are 2 to 3 ministers in the Ministry of Education.
Why do we need more than one minister in this ministry?
Just remove the other 2 ministers and cut their pay.
Several names will appear in different ministries - acting as understudies in various ministerial portfolios in an expanded cabinet
Prime Minister's Office - PM Lee Hsien Loong, SM Goh Chok Tong, SM Jayakumar, MM Lee Kuan Yew, Minister Lim Boon Heng, Minister Lim Swee Say, Minister Lim Hwee Hua, Head of Civil Service Peter Ho Hak Ean, Permanent Secretary Chiang Chie FooMinistry of Home Affairs - DPM and Minister Wong Kang Seng, Second Minister K Shanmugam, Second Minister A/Prof Ho Peng Kee, Senior Minister of State for Home Affairs Masagos Zulkifli
Ministry of Defence - DPM and Minister Teo Chee Hean, Second Minister Dr Ng Eng Hen, Minister of State A/Prof Koo Tsai Kee
Ministry of Finance - Minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam, Second Minister Lim Hwee Hua
Ministry of Foreign Affairs - Minister George Yeo, Second Minister Raymond Lim, Senior Minister of State Dr Balaji Sadasivan, Senior Minister of State Zainul Abidin Rasheed
Ministry of Trade and Industry - Minister Lim Hng Kiang, Senior Minister of State S. Iswaran, Minister of State Lee Yi Shyan
Ministry of Education - Minister Dr Ng Eng Hen, Senior Minister of State S Iswaran, Senior Minister of State Grace Fu, Senior Parliamentary Secretary for Education Masagos Zulkifli
Ministry of Health - Minister Koh Boon Wan, Senior Parliamentary Secretary Hawazi Daipi
Ministry of Law - Minister K. Shanmugam, Senior Minister of State A/Prof Ho Peng Kee
Ministry of the Environment and Water Resources - Minister A/Prof Yaacob Ibrahim, Senior Parliamentary Secretary Dr Amy Khor
Ministry of National Development - Minister Mah Bow Tan
Ministry of Transport - Minister Raymond Lim
Ministry of Community Development, Youth and Sports - Minister Dr Vivian Balakrishnan, Minister of State Yu-Foo Yee Shoon, Senior Parliamentary Secretary Teo Ser Luck
Ministry for Manpower - Minister Gan Kim Yoong,
Ministry of Information, Communications and the Arts - Acting Minister Lui Tuck Yew
-
Originally posted by Medicated Oil:
I agree 1000% with Mr Lim.
Therefore, the government should illustrate the concept by leading as example.
Cheaper - Cut all minister's pay by 70%. We should be cheaper than President Obama. The pay should be earmarked with the lowest pay.
Better - One minster should head three ministries. This is the best way of showing the world that we have truly capable elite scholar running the red dot. Excess mentor, perm secretary, MP, senior ministers should not be in place as we are truly world class and not mentoring is needed.
Faster - Cut the three working day response from all government agencies to one day. If we are employing truly elite as civil servant, three days to response is not acceptable.
As for the world class transport system, cheaper, better and faster rule also MUST apply.
If the above conditions cannot be comply, then the CBF concept is not applicable.
Your suggestions are excellent. However, I think the govt will take at least 7 working days to response to your ideas, boomz !
-
Originally posted by Atobe:
Several names will appear in different ministries - acting as understudies in various ministerial portfolios in an expanded cabinet
Prime Minister's Office - PM Lee Hsien Loong, SM Goh Chok Tong, SM Jayakumar, MM Lee Kuan Yew, Minister Lim Boon Heng, Minister Lim Swee Say, Minister Lim Hwee Hua, Head of Civil Service Peter Ho Hak Ean, Permanent Secretary Chiang Chie FooMinistry of Home Affairs - DPM and Minister Wong Kang Seng, Second Minister K Shanmugam, Second Minister A/Prof Ho Peng Kee, Senior Minister of State for Home Affairs Masagos Zulkifli
Ministry of Defence - DPM and Minister Teo Chee Hean, Second Minister Dr Ng Eng Hen, Minister of State A/Prof Koo Tsai Kee
Ministry of Finance - Minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam, Second Minister Lim Hwee Hua
Ministry of Foreign Affairs - Minister George Yeo, Second Minister Raymond Lim, Senior Minister of State Dr Balaji Sadasivan, Senior Minister of State Zainul Abidin Rasheed
Ministry of Trade and Industry - Minister Lim Hng Kiang, Senior Minister of State S. Iswaran, Minister of State Lee Yi Shyan
Ministry of Education - Minister Dr Ng Eng Hen, Senior Minister of State S Iswaran, Senior Minister of State Grace Fu, Senior Parliamentary Secretary for Education Masagos Zulkifli
Ministry of Health - Minister Koh Boon Wan, Senior Parliamentary Secretary Hawazi Daipi
Ministry of Law - Minister K. Shanmugam, Senior Minister of State A/Prof Ho Peng Kee
Ministry of the Environment and Water Resources - Minister A/Prof Yaacob Ibrahim, Senior Parliamentary Secretary Dr Amy Khor
Ministry of National Development - Minister Mah Bow Tan
Ministry of Transport - Minister Raymond Lim
Ministry of Community Development, Youth and Sports - Minister Dr Vivian Balakrishnan, Minister of State Yu-Foo Yee Shoon, Senior Parliamentary Secretary Teo Ser Luck
Ministry for Manpower - Minister Gan Kim Yoong,
Ministry of Information, Communications and the Arts - Acting Minister Lui Tuck Yew
There is no need to place so many ministers in one ministry. This only goes to show that the overall minister in charge of the ministry is not capable to handle it all by himself.
I don't see more than one minister runnning the ministry in Taiwan.
-
Originally posted by Fantagf:
There is no need to place so many ministers in one ministry. This only goes to show that the overall minister in charge of the ministry is not capable to handle it all by himself.
I don't see more than one minister runnning the ministry in Taiwan.
You are right, and neither has any Government of countries that are bigger then Singapore has there been so many Ministers-WITHOUT-Portfolio, two DPMs, two SMs, and one MM - and all being in the PM's Office.Obviously, LHL's cancer remission still remains a threat, and he cannot be exposed to any form of stress for fear the cancer recurring; and LHL needs as much time as he can to practise his Yoga plus his other excerises to keep cancer away.
About the other Ministry having more then a Second Minister in the same portfolio, and also assisted by Ministers-of-State (with or without the prefix "Senior" attached) - the excuse given was to have Ministers being familiar with the works of a second Ministry other then their own.
Ministers given more then one ministry are seen to be groomed for higher office, and in the workings of LKY's mind as he had once stated that the best in an individual can be seen when they are put under situation of stress - a case similar to the training at NASA, where astronauts are put through an intensive environment to weed out the less capable.
One can only wonder how did LHL slip through such high stress environment to become the PM of Singapore.
Counting the cost of having so many Ministers to be in the PM's Office is enough to confirm that this PM is too costly to be productive, let alone to be effective in any way.
-
Allowing the son lhl the pm of sg to have so many ministers assisting him in the PM's office seems to show that he is weak, lacks capability and leadership to lead the nation. If there is fear that his cancer may recur then lhl better step down to allow himself more time to relax and take good care of his health.
I doubt President Obama who is paid much lower than lhl has so many ministers assisting him in his office. Correct me if I am wrong.
If LKY so claim that his team is world class - I don't understand why world class ministers need more than one minister to help run the ministries in Singapore. Looks very much like they are not worth that much of world class salaries they are paid. Overpaid and under work???
-
Originally posted by Fantagf:
Allowing the son lhl the pm of sg to have so many ministers assisting him in the PM's office seems to show that he is weak, lacks capability and leadership to lead the nation. If there is fear that his cancer may recur then lhl better step down to allow himself more time to relax and take good care of his health.
I doubt President Obama who is paid much lower than lhl has so many ministers assisting him in his office. Correct me if I am wrong.
If LKY so claim that his team is world class - I don't understand why world class ministers need more than one minister to help run the ministries in Singapore. Looks very much like they are not worth that much of world class salaries they are paid. Overpaid and under work???
Can you believe that PM LHL, SM GCT and MM LKY work less then 8 hours a day and get paid an average of S$3.2 million between the three of them ?This works out to be S$8,888.88 a day - or S$1,111 per Hour in an 8 hour work day.
Do they have any moral authority to tell Singaporeans to accept lower pay, or even have CPF cuts ?
It becomes disgusting when they exercise their ingenius duplicity to tell Singaporeans to accept short term contracts so as to give employers the flexibility to trim their work force without needing to cut pay or reduce CPF ?
There is no shame felt by the PAP leadership even as the explanations made are so illogical, they will continue with the perfect idiocy in their immoral values, to explain with such straight faced aplomb - when the idiocy is in encouraging Singaporeans to accept short term employment contracts, even as it means complete job loss so that the employers do not need to cut pay or reduce CPF.
When short term employment contract gives the employers the opportunity to cut the labor content, will there be any relevance to the retrenched workers if the pay or CPF is not subject to being cut ?
Only the PAP Politicians have the creativity to think up such idiotic explanations to the citizens' minds already numbed by the situation
-
Originally posted by Atobe:
Can you believe that PM LHL, SM GCT and MM LKY work less then 8 hours a day and get paid an average of S$3.2 million between the three of them ?This works out to be S$8,888.88 a day - or S$1,111 per Hour in an 8 hour work day.
Do they have any moral authority to tell Singaporeans to accept lower pay, or even have CPF cuts ?
It becomes disgusting when they exercise their ingenius duplicity to tell Singaporeans to accept short term contracts so as to give employers the flexibility to trim their work force without needing to cut pay or reduce CPF ?
There is no shame felt by the PAP leadership even as the explanations made are so illogical, they will continue with the perfect idiocy in their immoral values, to explain with such straight faced aplomb - when the idiocy is in encouraging Singaporeans to accept short term employment contracts, even as it means complete job loss so that the employers do not need to cut pay or reduce CPF.
When short term employment contract gives the employers the opportunity to cut the labor content, will there be any relevance to the retrenched workers if the pay or CPF is not subject to being cut ?
Only the PAP Politicians have the creativity to think up such idiotic explanations to the citizens' minds already numbed by the situation
They have lost their moral authority long long time ago, thus causing many of us lost respect for them. This leads to rising resentment from the people towards the ruling party.I am still wondering what is their rationale of exercising oppression in allowing Singaporeans to draw reasonable salaries, I am not talking about world class salary like they are paying themselves here. Besides, these days we are seeing more and more contract jobs from the civil service. That attitude of "you die your business" is disturbing and affecting locals.
It is unfortunate we in Singapore have a government who think for themselves only, seems they are interested in self serving more than anything.
-
They are only serving the top 5 % of the population.
Remember Animal Farm.
They dun even know how to use a ezlink card.
Dun expect any good words to come out from them.
When they fall, prepare to be stomp and spit on.
Esp the oldest fool.
-
Originally posted by Fantagf:
They have lost their moral authority long long time ago, thus causing many of us lost respect for them. This leads to rising resentment from the people towards the ruling party.I am still wondering what is their rationale of exercising oppression in allowing Singaporeans to draw reasonable salaries, I am not talking about world class salary like they are paying themselves here. Besides, these days we are seeing more and more contract jobs from the civil service. That attitude of "you die your business" is disturbing and affecting locals.
It is unfortunate we in Singapore have a government who think for themselves only, seems they are interested in self serving more than anything.
That's strong words coming from Singaporean. Are you in any chance presently not on the island? I don't know whether I can be that tough if I were living on the island. You got my respect anyway bro! It seems we share more than one passions too lol.
Anyway your government is run by a certain motto that is Be happy or we kill you!lol I must admit that nowadays the dogs haven't been that active on the internet calm before the storm? lol.