i cant eat n swallow this.....
Originally posted by deepak.c:
These days, propaganda can also be found in the Chinese drama. Was watching some Chinese drama the other time and they emphasized "Singapore is a safe country, no crimes, .......".
If you control all the media, it's easy to control the minds of people.
As long as Sgforums is still around all minds would be out of control.
The internet is evil.
Spreading so much bad propaganda.
Really.
Fresh water.
Originally posted by charlize:The internet is evil.
Spreading so much bad propaganda.
Really.
The Internet is enlightening.
Originally posted by Chew Bakar:That's the difference between religions and politics.
Then in Singapore, politics is religion because only god's way leads you to the light.
The lightning power that gives light but first dont forget to pay your PUB bills.
Originally posted by charlize:The internet is evil.
Spreading so much bad propaganda.
Really.
The people spreading the bad propaganda is more evil
Don't blame the equipment. Blame the people using it
Originally posted by fireng:
The people spreading the bad propaganda is more evil
Don't blame the equipment. Blame the people using it
Agree
Originally posted by xtreyier:
If this forum allow dogs such as you and your kind, I guess there is a place for all, even those you woofishly barked out on your own.
Has the X-rated kid decided now to play with "dogs" - instead of the "turd" that is a favorite for the "zwei-siao-Hog" ?
It is remarkable that the X-rated mind will take on the mantle of a watch-dog to look after the interests of the "Fascist Hog" - when it cannot even look after its own turf.
The Hogs at the Animal Farm took away the puppies and bred them as watchdogs over the Farm.
You must have gained your X-rated position for being a good doggie during training, and appointed the premier role by the Hog for your attentive response at obedience school ?
Unfortunately, with so much energy spent at obedience school, you must have fallen asleep during the attack and voice training sessions.
For the continued education of a little kiddie that fantasised with X-rated cartoons - do note that wolves do not bark, and dogs cannot "bark wolfishly" .
Are you a product of the "Fascist Hog" cross-breeding between a wolf and a dog - to become a X-rated aberrant that can "wolfishly bark" ?
Originally posted by Atobe:
Has the X-rated kid decided now to play with "dogs" - instead of the "turd" that is a favorite for the "zwei-siao-Hog" ?
It is remarkable that the X-rated mind will take on the mantle of a watch-dog to look after the interests of the "Fascist Hog" - when it cannot even look after its own turf.
The Hogs at the Animal Farm took away the puppies and bred them as watchdogs over the Farm.
You must have gained your X-rated position for being a good doggie during training, and appointed the premier role by the Hog for your attentive response at obedience school ?
Unfortunately, with so much energy spent at obedience school, you must have fallen asleep during the attack and voice training sessions.
For the continued education of a little kiddie that fantasised with X-rated cartoons - do note that wolves do not bark, and dogs cannot "bark wolfishly" .
Are you a product of the "Fascist Hog" cross-breeding between a wolf and a dog - to become a X-rated aberrant that can "wolfishly bark" ?
So what the fuck are you? Some kind of nut who likes to play with CSJ's dick? You are so obedient to CSJ and his SDP that you are just a mutt for CSJ and his cronies. You are acting as a guard like the dogs in George Orwell's Animal Farm and guarding the selfish and ignorant pigs under SDP.
And you are a bloody drama queen who cannot accept people with different political views other than yours.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/drama_queen
An effeminate man (a "queen") who behaves and speaks in an overly dramatic manner so as to garner attention.
So interesting to watch the argument, even more interesting than the Ris Low drama
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
So what the fuck are you? Some kind of nut who likes to play with CSJ's dick? You are so obedient to CSJ and his SDP that you are just a mutt for CSJ and his cronies. You are acting as a guard like the dogs in George Orwell's Animal Farm and guarding the selfish and ignorant pigs under SDP.And you are a bloody drama queen who cannot accept people with different political views other than yours.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/drama_queen
An effeminate man (a "queen") who behaves and speaks in an overly dramatic manner so as to garner attention.
Finally the "basic social skills" of debating in public forums - that a "zwei-siao-hog" had boasted to teach others - have now been clearly revealed in all its entirety.
Your hang-up with mutts seem so appropriate in your role of the Master Hog in Georgie's Animal Farm, and it is so becoming of you to accept that role with such enthusiasm that only a "Fascist Hog" can have.
Have your grown tired of playing with your "turd" that only a Hog will be familiar with - and now switch to toying with a ‘Drama Queen’ ?
You have certainly got the meaning correct, but unfortunately can the intelligence of an anxious "Fascist" "zwei-siao-hog" appreciate what "Drama" is all about ?
Even your X-rated pet could not keep his boredom out with me, can anyone compete with the drama of the resident ‘Drama Queen’ ?
It is unlikely that the Bear will appreciate the "zwei-siao-hog" interfering with the quiet pride in his “narcissist” role as THE one and only ‘Drama Queen’ in this Forum.
The "zwei-siao-hog" should return and rest in his familiar 'turd', or migrate to some cleaner sanctified turf to seek absolution for his "Fascist" insult at associating the worship of Yaweh with that of CSJ.
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
the next pm also better stop thinking like a clown which is what CSJ is doing presently. Get some workable ideas and stop playing the blame game.
I agree to a certain extent about CSJ. But that does not mean all opposition party people are scums also. CSJ creates a bad name for the opposition. I think the opposition party members also won't like him as well.
Originally posted by dare82:I agree to a certain extent about CSJ. But that does not mean all opposition party people are scums also. CSJ creates a bad name for the opposition. I think the opposition party members also won't like him as well.
Did I mentioned any other alternative political party other than SDP or anyone else than CSJ that are acting like chimpanzees?
If SDP wants to really serve the people, then it should abandon the attention-garnering shock tactics and genuinely approach the masses for consultation. The SDP should not make a hullabo in a hawker centre and scare away the customers of the hawkers, Noise is also a pollution and such tactics to gain attention will not earn the sympathy of the masses but the ire of all Singaporeans alike. If CSJ wants to act up again, then SDP must not follow his lead and learn how to interact with the people on a more friendly basis.
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Did I mentioned any other alternative political party other than SDP or anyone else than CSJ that are acting like chimpanzees?If SDP wants to really serve the people, then it should abandon the attention-garnering shock tactics and genuinely approach the masses for consultation. The SDP should not make a hullabo in a hawker centre and scare away the customers of the hawkers, Noise is also a pollution and such tactics to gain attention will not earn the sympathy of the masses but the ire of all Singaporeans alike. If CSJ wants to act up again, then SDP must not follow his lead and learn how to interact with the people on a more friendly basis.
It is odd that a "hog" will get involved in politics and refer to the SDP and CSJ as chimpanzees, and the MIW as gorillas.
For all its love-hate emotions towards the SDP-CSJ and MIW-LHL - one will have to wonder if the "hog" is such an authority about the intelligence of Apes when using the ape family to make references to the politicians in Singapore
If one were to make reference to a detailed study of a report concerning the ‘Gorilla Intelligence And That Of The Other Great Apes’ (*1) - it will be amusing if the "hog" will retract its "zwei-siao" remarks about the SDP-CSJ being chimpanzees considering the vast difference in intelligence levels:-
The gorilla has a bigger brain than that of the chimpanzee yet all the evidence indicates that the chimp is the smarter of the two!
The use of tools in the wild by chimpanzees has been observed and well established for some time now and in fact recently chimps have also been observed successfully hunting lemurs with crude yet self-crafted spears.
On the other hand tool use by gorillas in the wild has been little observed and certainly not to the same extent or sophistication as their more rambunctious cousins, the chimpanzee.
So then do these observations lay to rest once and for all the age old quandary about "which species of ape is second to man in intelligence"?
Can a "hog" species be anywhere near the ability of a chimpanzee to be anywhere related closer to "Man" in intelligence ?
No wonder at the recent open confrontation between LKY and CSJ - the gorilla was stumped for words, and could not reply to the honest questions of a chimp.
It is clear that even at meal time, while the "hog" will squeal and grunt without an iota of intelligence to gobble up the muck served for its meal, the chimpanzee will quietly pick and enjoy its meal in quiet concentration.
With the intelligence of the "hog" in making its "zwei-siao" observation colored with all its bias and prejudiced energy, anyone who is in a hurry during lunch time in town will be seen as walking away from CSJ and SDP.
When there is so much construction activities in the city, and the buzz of conversation at a food center - perhaps only a "hog" will conduct its political activities in a toned down manner to conceal its "zwei-siao" presence ?
It certainly will go with the grain in the wooden pattern intelligence that is imprinted in the brain of a "hog" after being repeatedly trashed with a wooden plank.
Originally posted by deepak.c:
These days, propaganda can also be found in the Chinese drama. Was watching some Chinese drama the other time and they emphasized "Singapore is a safe country, no crimes, .......".
If you control all the media, it's easy to control the minds of people.
Yes. Last year, the mediacorpse Channel 8 9 pm drama on the rented flat - message for propaganda was "we have good govt", repeated a few times in the drama.
Originally posted by Fantagf:Yes. Last year, the mediacorpse Channel 8 9 pm drama on the rented flat - message for propaganda was "we have good govt", repeated a few times in the drama.
TS forgot that Govt announce 10 million just to help social intergration....look who is talking about propaganda???
Originally posted by Arapahoe:
TS forgot that Govt announce 10 million just to help social intergration....look who is talking about propaganda???
You are good to point that out. Yes, and I can foresee they will come out with events and so on to help them integrate into our society (it is some where in the news that they will do this). So much for caring for the PRCs and neglecting the needs of the locals. I will definitely exercise my right and wisdom to vote if given a chance.
I second that. I don't see any reason why the government isn't being more proactive in caring for the true-blue bona fide Singaporeans.
Originally posted by Arapahoe:
TS forgot that Govt announce 10 million just to help social intergration....look who is talking about propaganda???
You claim to imply being a better person, having lived overseas and that your ex fellow citizens are frogs living in a well, among your numerous posts.
You claim to have better political experience, maturity and comprehension, with a global outlook, than your fellow ex-citizens here whom you and your kind looked down as narrow minded yokels of one tracked political dominance.
AND YET, you failed to comprehend the true nature of why the $10million is necessary!
Look no further than to the US, France and Australia. Look at their integration policies and see how it had failed miserably. Just costs alone on damage to properties was already more than hundred of millions in each country.
How about lives? Human lives are more precious. No amount of money in this world can ever buy back one single life.
Worse still, after rebuilding damages and lives, it had done nothing to integrate the people. The problems continued to fester.
We, 'frogs in the well' as you haughtily looked down on us upon your delusions of granduer pedestal, are pragmatic people. That ten million does not goes into one group of people's pockets. It goes to everyone involved, including our very own citizens in the social integration projects funded.
Better the millions spent, then to do nothing, and when things get out of hand, even money is of no use.
Cooperation, a willingness to open up and share, to reach out is more necessary and helpful, than to high and mightly condemn and criticise such efforts.
Unless, you, the so called global intelligentsia citizen, have better and more practical ideas than just malicious propaganda and impractical lofty idealism to belittle your fellow ex-citizens?
But then, it wont be necessary, really. We will do fine on our own, depending on ourselves and others who will help us sincerly, as we and our forefathers had done before.
Enjoy your abandonment of us and the good life you live, and leaving your family back here for us to look after for you, and we will do so. No one gets left behind in our country. Spare us your crocodile tears, whinny justifications for leaving and condemnations. We have gotten used to it.
Originally posted by xtreyier:You claim to imply being a better person, having lived overseas and that your ex fellow citizens are frogs living in a well, among your numerous posts.
You claim to have better political experience, maturity and comprehension, with a global outlook, than your fellow ex-citizens here whom you and your kind looked down as narrow minded yokels of one tracked political dominance.
AND YET, you failed to comprehend the true nature of why the $10million is necessary!
Look no further than to the US, France and Australia. Look at their integration policies and see how it had failed miserably. Just costs alone on damage to properties was already more than hundred of millions in each country.
How about lives? Human lives are more precious. No amount of money in this world can ever buy back one single life.
Worse still, after rebuilding damages and lives, it had done nothing to integrate the people. The problems continued to fester.
We, 'frogs in the well' as you haughtily looked down on us upon your delusions of granduer pedestal, are pragmatic people. That ten million does not goes into one group of people's pockets. It goes to everyone involved, including our very own citizens in the social integration projects funded.
Better the millions spent, then to do nothing, and when things get out of hand, even money is of no use.
Cooperation, a willingness to open up and share, to reach out is more necessary and helpful, than to high and mightly condemn and criticise such efforts.
Unless, you, the so called global intelligentsia citizen, have better and more practical ideas than just malicious propaganda and impractical lofty idealism to belittle your fellow ex-citizens?
But then, it wont be necessary, really. We will do fine on our own, depending on ourselves and others who will help us sincerly, as we and our forefathers had done before.
Enjoy your abandonment of us and the good life you live, and leaving your family back here for us to look after for you, and we will do so. No one gets left behind in our country. Spare us your crocodile tears and condemnations. We have gotten used to it.
In the typical tit-for-tat kind of silly kiddie argument, what has the X-rated kid to offer besides justifying the actions of its arrogant PAPa' - with seemingly original text that are no better than a dumb-down version of a plagiarized version of some high fallutin excuses from PAPa itself.
Is it justifiable to spend $10 Million to integrate the New Citizens into Singapore's Society ?
How is this to be spent on a block or group of NEW Singaporeans - even as it is seen by an X-rated mind not to have gone into the pockets of any single group of people ?
When local born Singaporeans were thrown out of job in 2004 through 2006, with the remaining Singaporeans that remained employed having deep cuts to their wages and CPF - was there any offers of help from the Government to those who were locally born and lived here all their lives ?
Even when no help was extended in terms of "unemployment aid" - the jobless were only asking for their PERSONAL CPF savings to be open for their use, and still this request was REJECTED outright.
A ST Newsreport had even headlined PM LHL claiming that "it is not the job of his government to look for jobs for jobless Singaporeans" - when the jobless had numbered no more then 4 per cent at its peak by 2005.
Surprisingly, about one day later, ST News reported China's PM Wen Jia Bao telling a crowd of concerned and desparate China nationals in a provincial town that "the government will ensure that there will be jobs for everyone".
That is the X-Factor in leadership which unfortunately an amateur and undiscerning political commentator in a X-rat cannot even be honest to differentiate.
Your insufferable sanctimonius attempts to teach others of all the false lessons that you have mindlessly plagiarized without any attempts at being circumspect can only open yourself to constant ridicule and contempt.
It is best that a X-rated kiddie should learn to keep its ignorance to itself, unless it prefer to be seen as a X-rated Rat hopeless polishing the heavily tarnished image of its ageing PAPa.
Originally posted by xtreyier:You claim to imply being a better person, having lived overseas and that your ex fellow citizens are frogs living in a well, among your numerous posts.
You claim to have better political experience, maturity and comprehension, with a global outlook, than your fellow ex-citizens here whom you and your kind looked down as narrow minded yokels of one tracked political dominance.
AND YET, you failed to comprehend the true nature of why the $10million is necessary!
Look no further than to the US, France and Australia. Look at their integration policies and see how it had failed miserably. Just costs alone on damage to properties was already more than hundred of millions in each country.
How about lives? Human lives are more precious. No amount of money in this world can ever buy back one single life.
Worse still, after rebuilding damages and lives, it had done nothing to integrate the people. The problems continued to fester.
We, 'frogs in the well' as you haughtily looked down on us upon your delusions of granduer pedestal, are pragmatic people. That ten million does not goes into one group of people's pockets. It goes to everyone involved, including our very own citizens in the social integration projects funded.
Better the millions spent, then to do nothing, and when things get out of hand, even money is of no use.
Cooperation, a willingness to open up and share, to reach out is more necessary and helpful, than to high and mightly condemn and criticise such efforts.
Unless, you, the so called global intelligentsia citizen, have better and more practical ideas than just malicious propaganda and impractical lofty idealism to belittle your fellow ex-citizens?
But then, it wont be necessary, really. We will do fine on our own, depending on ourselves and others who will help us sincerly, as we and our forefathers had done before.
Enjoy your abandonment of us and the good life you live, and leaving your family back here for us to look after for you, and we will do so. No one gets left behind in our country. Spare us your crocodile tears, whinny justifications for leaving and condemnations. We have gotten used to it.
AND YET, you failed to comprehend the true nature of why the $10million is necessary!
Look no further than to the US, France and Australia. Look at their integration policies and see how it had failed miserably. Just costs alone on damage to properties was already more than hundred of millions in each country.
Ha...the 10 million dollars is a wastefull fiscal spending that resulted from ill govt social engineering policies of spiking up foreigner too fast in too short of the time. While the root cause of the Singaporean Exodus was going on for decade it has reach a proportion that cannot hide.
Why even compared with US or Australia for practical discussion? Look at their size? have you not see that central planning will fail in large state? Look at China 5000 yrs historical time frame and counting still could not contain social intergration in its inland province? And you want to spend 10 millions to do what.....propaganda Intergration campaign?
Unless you totally forgot that politics in SG and neighbors remain unchanged. When stone start throwing. Govt of both side of the causeway will not be able to stop.
Singapore govt insist of policy not like that of the west and insist it has its own system. Look at the number of resident leaving eventually the govt run a risk of closing up itself. making itself irrelevant to the world. It is already a tough trading place to compete against emerging markets. To further closed your mind to overseas Singaporean is to close your door to human networks.
Originally posted by Arapahoe:AND YET, you failed to comprehend the true nature of why the $10million is necessary!
Look no further than to the US, France and Australia. Look at their integration policies and see how it had failed miserably. Just costs alone on damage to properties was already more than hundred of millions in each country.
Ha...the 10 million dollars is a wastefull fiscal spending that resulted from ill govt social engineering policies of spiking up foreigner too fast in too short of the time. While the root cause of the Singaporean Exodus was going on for decade it has reach a proportion that cannot hide.Why even compared with US or Australia for practical discussion? Look at their size? have you not see that central planning will fail in large state? Look at China 5000 yrs historical time frame and counting still could not contain social intergration in its inland province? And you want to spend 10 millions to do what.....propaganda Intergration campaign?
Unless you totally forgot that politics in SG and neighbors remain unchanged. When stone start throwing. Govt of both side of the causeway will not be able to stop.
Singapore govt insist of policy not like that of the west and insist it has its own system. Look at the number of resident leaving eventually the govt run a risk of closing up itself. making itself irrelevant to the world. It is already a tough trading place to compete against emerging markets. To further closed your mind to overseas Singaporean is to close your door to human networks.
Wow, you talk like China's been isolated from the world and undisturbed for the past 5000 years!