Malicious Propaganda against Singapore
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Originally posted by charlize:
Surprisingly in recent times, a lot of "foreigners" are also starting to write in to the papers and forums asking singaporeans to be thankful of the government.
Just my observations.
Signs that election is coming soon.
hahahah!
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Originally posted by charlize:
I guess to some people, critising government policies and wanting improvements mean that people are spreading malicious propoganda against Singapore.
Words about spreading malicious propaganda against Singapore can only come from one tract mind, narrow minded people.
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I'm surprised that there are still people happy with CPF's 2.5% ~ 4% annual interest rate when I'm easily getting 6~8% or more by planning financially myself.
I guess xtreyier has less savings in bank; he must be putting > 20% of his salary into CPF for the wonderful interest rate!
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Originally posted by dare82:
Whoever is the next PM of S'pore, I hope he or she is not one stuck up thinking like a big fuck who grows up talking to rich people only.Must have a commoner upbringing, if not he or she can't put oneself into the shoes of the HDB dwellers and understand the difficulty of life here.
the next pm also better stop thinking like a clown which is what CSJ is doing presently. Get some workable ideas and stop playing the blame game. -
Now that the X-rated Kid has been exposed for its ability to plagiarize a "Wall of Text" - we should expect it to make no relevant response to any issues that rebut its idiocy, but will continue to divert attention away from its exposed failed arguments.
Originally posted by xtreyier:The love for one's country and its people, managed by freely elected people's representatives, is ABOVE politics and religion.
The X-rated thinking of a plagiarizer never fail to impress.
Up to Page 3 of this thread and until his response appeared - when did religion get into this thread to make its comments relevant ?
Is the love for one's country and its people ABOVE politics ?
What is the objective of the X-rated plagiarizer in making such a statement ?
With the present politics of monolithic power resting in one domineering personality, Singaporeans - who love the country - should be more wary of such X-rated pseudo messengers.
The outspoken statement of the X-rated Kid is simply hollow when it propagate the PAP's desire for Singaporeans to be politically cynical, even as it divert our attention on urgent political issues, so as to allow the PAP a free hand to further consolidate its hold on political power.
Under such circumstances, is the love for Singapore and its people ABOVE politics ?
Freely elected people's representatives - when the election involved less then half of the Singaporean populaton from a tiny island, while bigger nations with larger land mass has been able to hold election that involved more then 70 per cent of their total population ?
It is obvious that the immature mind of a X-rated kid has not been able to transcend beyond the standard text of standard speeches with its own thinking, as it is stuck in the continuous cycle of absorbing standard ideas through its plagiarizing skills.
By all means, criticise freely, but to twist words, mixing truths with half truths and lies, is nothing more than malicious attempts to destroy all that has been sacrificed and built up.
The bankrupt mind of a X-rated kid can only fall back on a hopeless set of standard plagiarized self-defeating whining excuses, when it cannot defend its hopeless positions as these ideas were vainly copied from others, when it had no clue of the nature nor background as to how the copied positions were developed.
How were the bankrupt words twisted ?
Can truth be mixed with half-truths and lies ?
Does truth need to be diluted with lies ?
What will happen to the half-truths when lies are woven into it ?
Only the bankrupt X-rated mind can be such a genius to mix truths with half-truths and lies - to develop into new X-rated reality of its own forlorn positions that it cannot even hope to defend.
The truth is clear that the bankrupt mind of a X-rated kid cannot swallow the stark truth as it is delivered.
The half-truth is in the hopeless effort of a X-rated kid pretending to be one amongst the talented elite.
The lie is in the X-rated kid attempting to be a non-partisan and loyal Singaporean, when its position has been clearly stated in its clear political stand.
And for what? Just because some idiots got frustrated with his/her own mistakes made on their own free will and want others to accompany them in misery???
Think again.
The frustration has been consistently expressed by one who has been branded as a X-rated kid making the mistake of pretending to be a mature political commentator, when it continue to make consistent mistakes in simply plagiarizing ideas and text from the poltical elites - without the ability to deliver with any conviction, nor has it any ability to understand the subject matters with any depth of thought to enable it to defend the plagiarized positions.
The mistake was made by the X-rated kid on its own free will.
It is simple idiocy of an X-rated kid to insist on denying the "Truth" but will insist on others to follow its short-sighted vision of what reality is.
Can we believe in the X-rated values of a political clown when it has no ability to differentiate between simple "Truth" and sheer "Lies" ?
It is amazing that the X-rated kid will depend on the existence of "Half-Truths" - so as to have some consolation for getting its butt repeatedly kicked in.
Singaporeans should extend some help to the immature X-rated Kid to help it find its directions again, as its immature mind has no ability to prove its claims that the "Truth" has been twisted, nor show "half-Truths" and "Lies" have been introduced.
Does Singaporean need to think again about the bald lies that the X-rated kid need - in order to justify its own relevance in this Speaker's Corner ?
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
I know you worship CSJ and not yaweh." I know you worship CSJ and not yaweh."
A "swei-siao-hog" will never resist to show its own ignorance by taunting others with its own stupidity.
Your pretense at being "Germanic" is as revealing as the underlying tone of "religious Facism" towards the Jews - by suggesting any worship of "CSJ" with 'Yaweh' (*1).
It is simply disgusting that you will pretend to take on a moral tone in the political discourse in this Speaker's Corner.
Can you even hold a candle to CSJ - let alone to the cartoon game characters from which your nick had been plagiarized from ?
You should have adopted the nick - "swei-siao-hog" - that had been awarded to you, as it is more appropriate to your consistently "swei-siao" character displayed towards loyal Singaporeans.
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
the next pm also better stop thinking like a clown which is what CSJ is doing presently. Get some workable ideas and stop playing the blame game.Is it not ironical that a "swei-siao-hog" will believ that others are thinking like a clown, when its own "swei-siao" character has consistently revealed its own idiocy - that is worst then a professional circus clown ?
Can a "swei-siao-hog" know when to stop playing the blame game, when its has no clue even about its own game plan in succeeding to silence the truth of what is said ?
All that a "swei-siao-hog" can depend for its bankrupt political arguments is by way of disgressions, ridicule, and insults - while it has nothing to offer in terms of its own political position, nor any idea which direction it intend for its "swei-siao" existence.
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eagle,
i only get slightly more than 6% annual interest rate.but things are getting better and i expect interest rate to rise in 1 or 2 months time.but the best thing is that the banks credit the interest into my account every month.
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Originally posted by Atobe:
Now that the X-rated Kid has been exposed for its ability to plagiarize a "Wall of Text" - we should expect it to make no relevant response to any issues that rebut its idiocy, but will continue to divert attention away from its exposed failed arguments.
The X-rated thinking of a plagiarizer never fail to impress.
Up to Page 3 of this thread and until his response appeared - when did religion get into this thread to make its comments relevant ?
Is the love for one's country and its people ABOVE politics ?
What is the objective of the X-rated plagiarizer in making such a statement ?
With the present politics of monolithic power resting in one domineering personality, Singaporeans - who love the country - should be more wary of such X-rated pseudo messengers.
The outspoken statement of the X-rated Kid is simply hollow when it propagate the PAP's desire for Singaporeans to be politically cynical, even as it divert our attention on urgent political issues, so as to allow the PAP a free hand to further consolidate its hold on political power.
Under such circumstances, is the love for Singapore and its people ABOVE politics ?
Freely elected people's representatives - when the election involved less then half of the Singaporean populaton from a tiny island, while bigger nations with larger land mass has been able to hold election that involved more then 70 per cent of their total population ?
It is obvious that the immature mind of a X-rated kid has not been able to transcend beyond the standard text of standard speeches with its own thinking, as it is stuck in the continuous cycle of absorbing standard ideas through its plagiarizing skills.
The bankrupt mind of a X-rated kid can only fall back on a hopeless set of standard plagiarized self-defeating whining excuses, when it cannot defend its hopeless positions as these ideas were vainly copied from others, when it had no clue of the nature nor background as to how the copied positions were developed.
How were the bankrupt words twisted ?
Can truth be mixed with half-truths and lies ?
Does truth need to be diluted with lies ?
What will happen to the half-truths when lies are woven into it ?
Only the bankrupt X-rated mind can be such a genius to mix truths with half-truths and lies - to develop into new X-rated reality of its own forlorn positions that it cannot even hope to defend.
The truth is clear that the bankrupt mind of a X-rated kid cannot swallow the stark truth as it is delivered.
The half-truth is in the hopeless effort of a X-rated kid pretending to be one amongst the talented elite.
The lie is in the X-rated kid attempting to be a non-partisan and loyal Singaporean, when its position has been clearly stated in its clear political stand.
The frustration has been consistently expressed by one who has been branded as a X-rated kid making the mistake of pretending to be a mature political commentator, when it continue to make consistent mistakes in simply plagiarizing ideas and text from the poltical elites - without the ability to deliver with any conviction, nor has it any ability to understand the subject matters with any depth of thought to enable it to defend the plagiarized positions.
The mistake was made by the X-rated kid on its own free will.
It is simple idiocy of an X-rated kid to insist on denying the "Truth" but will insist on others to follow its short-sighted vision of what reality is.
Can we believe in the X-rated values of a political clown when it has no ability to differentiate between simple "Truth" and sheer "Lies" ?
It is amazing that the X-rated kid will depend on the existence of "Half-Truths" - so as to have some consolation for getting its butt repeatedly kicked in.
Singaporeans should extend some help to the immature X-rated Kid to help it find its directions again, as its immature mind has no ability to prove its claims that the "Truth" has been twisted, nor show "half-Truths" and "Lies" have been introduced.
Does Singaporean need to think again about the bald lies that the X-rated kid need - in order to justify its own relevance in this Speaker's Corner ?
Another wall of expected gibberish text from an infinite monkey theorum guinea pig!
At least now you are launching personal smear attacks against me instead to my country. Better me than my society.
Go ahead, Turd..or Tubbs...I am only an insignificant nobody. You can do me no harm, more so with your twist and manipulations. My fellow citizens arent stupid to see thru you and your followers' intentions.
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Originally posted by xtreyier:
Another wall of expected gibberish text from an infinite monkey theorum guinea pig!
At least now you are launching personal smear attacks against me instead to my country. Better me than my society.
Go ahead, Turd..or Tubbs...I am only an insignificant nobody. You can do me no harm, more so with your twist and manipulations. My fellow citizens arent stupid to see thru you and your followers' intentions.
Your country ?Your society ?
It is an insult for a pseudo-intellect to make such dishonest claims when your bankrupt mind cannot see the dangers that this country is heading into the future.
You are a joke if you attempt to use modesty to cover the faults in your X-rated character.
Can an X-rated kid be of any significance to anyone ?
Beyond the stunted vocabulary of "twist and manipulations" - and standard text that is mindlessly copied by a blank mind skilled only in the art of plagiarizing propaganda to pass as your own, what else can you hope to achieve in your efforts to convince your agenda to anyone ?
It is best that you continue working on being effective with your delivery, and be more honest with your efforts to be original without plagiarizing someone else's works.
Turd... or Tubbs ?
You cannot even be original with your effort to twist and mangle a nick, and have to copy from a hopeless Hog that is forever as "zwei-siao" as you can hope to be.
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Originally posted by xtreyier:
Malicious Propaganda against Singapore.
I met a guy who always complain about life of Singapore. So I ask him what was the ACTUAL reason for his hatred.
He: I am not complaining. I love Singapore. This is my home. All that I am doing is only to make it a better place for all!
Me: It's comprehensible if you are just frustrated with your life, which is your own doing, and resorting to venting it out.
But you mean by complaining and spreading demoralizing lies with half truths, without fully exploring why certain things need to be done to ensure survival, is HELPING the country and society??
He: How much is the ruling party paying you to tell me this?
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Complaints often heard:-1. CPF is another scheme to suck the people dry.
Reality:-
A guy starts work at 21 years old. Salary $2000. CPF contribution from both him and his employer = 30% - $7,200 a year in his account earning 4% compounded.
By the time he reaches 55 years, he would have an est $520,000 to draw from.If he saved at home $7200/yr he would only have $244,000 per year.
But leaving it in CPF, he would have an additional $276,000, and would have used it for a better and noble cause - to help elevate our society as our forefathers had selflessly sacrificed for our todays, as we must do the same if not more for our next generation.
This sample does not take into further profit he would gain if he uses such funds to purchase property or his salary or promotion remains stagnant.
(this is only a sample liner calculation. If anyone wants to nitpick, please go to CPF board.)2. CPF interest is peanuts
Reality:-
If CPF $276,000 worth of accrued interest is peanuts, then the guy who said it must be a multi billionaire, and dont need the money. Please donate it to charity.3. it is highly probable that the government will stand to profit from the cpf life scheme with more people dying before collecting payouts. since the amount of money pledged will not go to the beneficiaries, the money will go to the government instead.
Reality:-
CPF life scheme is but an insurance cover, and like any insurance covers, it is dependent on a large pool of funds to give payouts. Thus, if one dies, the payout stops, and is only fair, for such is the risk. The fund is nobly meant to take care of the aged, and its fund comes from the PEOPLE. There is absolutely no reason to bequeth such funds to the next of kin
The PEOPLE stand more to lose, because life expectancy is expected to rise with advancement in scientific research. When more will live beyond 100 yrs old, the fund will be in danger if further payouts are required, thus stressing our contributing members more.
Make no mistake, the balance payouts for one who dies does not go to the govt. It goes back to PEOPLE. CPF is the PEOPLE's fund, and when due on schedules, to be returned with interest4. CPF funds are freely gambled away.
Reality:-
Assume a million people contribute $7,200 each a year to CPF = $7,200,000,000
Interest the govt has to pay at 4% = $288,000,000
The govt's CPF board is not an invesment company, thus it assigns GIC to seek out safe, blue chip strong companies to invest in, not cowboy style, but just a realistic and safe figure for example at 6%
At 6% dividens earned a year on $7,2 billion = $432,000,000
With capital still intact to pay back members anytime, and after deducting the 4% interest owed to CPF board, GIC will still have $144,000,000 - and it will be this sum that is used to built schools, pay for defence, offer healthcare, etc, etc, combined with other tax revenues collected in that year.All investments come with risk, or there will be no returns. The only solution is to minimise it by getting the best brains and team to manage our funds. Baring global catastrophies such as the current financial crisis, on the whole, GIC had done well with its accumulated returns saved for rainy days.
And that's just based on an estimate fig of 1mil people. There are more than 3mil working adults today, so guess how much is actually there to protect our citizens.
Remember always, we have no oil wealth or mineral resources to depend on, except ourselves!5.Life expectancy here is expected to shorten due to the claustrophobic condition
Reality:-
Claustrophobia is a only a mental condition, borne out of self centredness and the selfish unwillingness to share space.6.35 years old citizens below cannot buy HDB flats, but PRs can buy with brother sister combo.
Reality:-
Irresponsible lie and half truth to mask a hidden agenda within a sentence. 35 years old and below citizens cannot buy flat but can do so on a brother sister combo as well.7. HDB flats are expensive
Reality:-
Go buy private housing then. Why does a car cost only $21k in Japan but need to cost $80k here? Why do other nations people live mostly in detached houses, yet we live in boxes in the sky? Why is oil only a few cents in the 20s yet it's $2 a litre now? Why is a construction engineer's pay only $1000 in the 60s, but avg $4000 now? Why, why why???
8. Foreigners hanging their flag in Singapore.
Reality:-
Provoked so much, is the emotion real? If real, then where was your flag on National day????
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I encourage all to be more discerning. There is nothing wrong in whinning or venting. It only shows your own pettiness. It's ok to be ignorant. It's also ok to complain but hopefully it can be backed up with credible solutions.
But to lie, twist and turn events/circumstances with half truths are malicious acts against to our society.
If anyone has any evidence or wrong doing of the govt, or ruler party, by all means show it or report it to the relevant authorities. There is no need to spread rumours or lies for one's hatred. The consequences will end badly on society, seldom on the monger.
So many logical fallicies and generalisations and misconceptions throughout the whole post that I do not know where to start...
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Originally posted by dare82:
Whoever is the next PM of S'pore, I hope he or she is not one stuck up thinking like a big fuck who grows up talking to rich people only.Must have a commoner upbringing, if not he or she can't put oneself into the shoes of the HDB dwellers and understand the difficulty of life here.
I bet the next PM will be a Lee too
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Originally posted by Gensis:
So many logical fallicies and generalisations and misconceptions throughout the whole post that I do not know where to start...Ignore it
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Originally posted by Gensis:
So many logical fallicies and generalisations and misconceptions throughout the whole post that I do not know where to start...Congratulations for your ability to spot the "logical fallcies and generalisations and misconceptions throughout the whole post" - which is the creation from a bankrupt mind of a X-rated kid.
You can try to begin from where 'X' mark the spot - that is where the X-rated kid normally will try to start its sneaky path at spilling kiddie droppings that he think is meaningful and will entertain us - the Adults.
Unfortunately, you have to find the spot marked 'X' - as he is too dumb to make it any clearer and is waiting for someone with intelligence to do it first, so that he can plagiarize it when used as a repetitive model.
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Originally posted by eagle:
I'm surprised that there are still people happy with CPF's 2.5% ~ 4% annual interest rate when I'm easily getting 6~8% or more by planning financially myself.
I guess xtreyier has less savings in bank; he must be putting > 20% of his salary into CPF for the wonderful interest rate!
Low educated people don't know how to invest their money so forgive them lah
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To gensis.
Try going to the source first. I dont expect anyone to take my word for it, as those rabble rousers would like their words to be taken. Find out for yourself, and then if you feel like, I would welcome your insights, so long as it is not another infinite monkey theorum fillabustering wall of text.
It is your choice. I will not impose upon you to do so, or not to do so. Only tyrannical despots and their retarded followers would make demands and orders.
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Originally posted by xtreyier:
To gensis.
Try going to the source first. I dont expect anyone to take my word for it, as those rabble rousers would like their words to be taken. Find out for yourself, and then if you feel like, I would welcome your insights, so long as it is not another infinite monkey theorum fillabustering wall of text.
It is your choice. I will not impose upon you to do so, or not to do so. Only tyrannical despots and their retarded followers would make demands and orders.
Only tyrannical despots and their retarded followers would make demands and orders.If PAP was regarded as tyrannical despots by quite a number here, you are PAP's retarded followers?
Hmmm....
Don't worry about wall of text. I'm not as free as you to post 798 words to Arapahoe's 156 words to tell him he's very free to post (acknowledgement of words count to eagle and notice of self-pwnage by Fantagf)
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xtreyier, keep your posts short. Most people won't be bothered to go and read your long posts. This is not a blog. They see your post long, they sian already, can't be bothered to read, just skip.
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Originally posted by Gensis:
If PAP was regarded as tyrannical despots by quite a number here, you are PAP's retarded followers?
Hmmm....
Don't worry about wall of text. I'm not as free as you to post 798 words to Arapahoe's 156 words to tell him he's very free to post (acknowledgement of words count to eagle and notice of self-pwnage by Fantagf)
IF....if i had a mustache, i would be your father..haha..no offence intended. The perennial if.... a supposition and not a fact.It's your choice and free will. Let it not be said I denied you your freedom.
All the best. ( there, 43 words, against your 60 words)
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Originally posted by angel3070:
xtreyier, keep your posts short. Most people won't be bothered to go and read your long posts. This is not a blog. They see your post long, they sian already, can't be bothered to read, just skip.
I do not force anyone to read my posts. It's your freedom and what you do with it. Not a decision I can ever make for you.
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Originally posted by xtreyier:
IF....if i had a mustache, i would be your father..haha..no offence intended. The perennial if.... a supposition and not a fact.It's your choice and free will. Let it not be said I denied you your freedom.
All the best. ( there, 43 words, against your 60 words)
I see that you remain ignorant of my sarcasm
It's ok. Just be happy being the joke here ok?
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Originally posted by xtreyier:
I do not force anyone to read my posts. It's your freedom and what you do with it. Not a decision I can ever make for you.
If your posts are short, it will encourage more people to read it.
So the propaganda power is stronger. It will reach out to more people and influence them.
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Originally posted by Gensis:
I see that you remain ignorant of my sarcasmIt's ok. Just be happy being the joke here ok?
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Next thing you know, if you complain about slow bus service or having to pay more for your MRT fares, you are disloyal to singapore.
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Originally posted by Gensis:
I see that you remain ignorant of my sarcasmIt's ok. Just be happy being the joke here ok?
Such a simple sarcasm he also don't understand
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Originally posted by Gensis:
I see that you remain ignorant of my sarcasmIt's ok. Just be happy being the joke here ok?
Glad you admit to using sarcasm. It is sign of bitterness and deep rooted resentment over what I had said, to the petty extend of counting how many words I used. Didnt know you hated freedom so much.
I guess you are the one who needs to be happy, and if you think I am the joke, anything to make you happy then. It's your perogative and life anyway, regardless of whatever nicks you use, to protect another money making nick here. that is, if you are indeed using another nick. ( a supposition only, relax)
