HDB Should Not Be Playing Politics For The PAP
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Originally posted by Howlheje:
Ya true,the price of HDB flats are really shocking nowadays.And the HDB still have to ask u every month earn how much,if u are asking for a loan from them.In the past,there is no such rule when u loan money from them.
Oh Wait,didnt LKY promise Singaporeans that every citizen that live in this country will has his/her own flat?But now the flat price is so high,n HDB loans are strict,and not all ppl can afford it.So where is the promise?Isnt that contradicting from what he has promised in the past?
How come his successors like GCT n LHL want to impose such strict rules n raise the HDB flats so high?Is it becoz he n his cabinets choose his successors wrongly?
A genuine concern indeed.
So how much do you think a HDB flat, say 4 room flat should cost to you?
(dont worry, no right or wrong answer here. You are not at court being cross examined)
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In the beginning with honorable people in power, HDB was for the general good but when the cursed despot with a zombie wife got away with persecuting activists and opposition figures, bringing many curses on his family; the HDebtB became a means to grab public money and put Singaporeans in debt (for whatever reasons in their interest).
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Originally posted by xtreyier:
A genuine concern indeed.
So how much do you think a HDB flat, say 4 room flat should cost to you?
(dont worry, no right or wrong answer here. You are not at court being cross examined)
Before i answer your question,u have to ask HDB,that how much does it cost to build a flat?Now,i know that the cost of building a flat is higher compare to that of 60's n 70's.But then again,the flats that the government build are higher,so there are more units to sell to individual n the profit is higher also,for HDB of coz.
So,u must let HDB declares their cost of construction a flat,before i can know how much they are suppose to sell the unit to Singaporean as to consider reasonable.
Secondly,after cutting off the construction cost of flats,what is HDB policy when they decide how much it is per unit to sell to Singaporean.Their policy is it to sell the units for a reasonable price,which will earn less profits after cutting cost,but will let most Singaporean be able afford to buy HDB flat.
Or,to sell the flats to Singaporeans at a ridiculous price,so as to turn it into one of the ways to exploit more money from Singaporeans to provide funds and to sustain PAP minister's highest pay in the world,especially LKY,LHL n GCT pay?
So,which of those 2 is their policy right now?
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Originally posted by Howlheje:
Before i answer your question,u have to ask HDB,that how much does it cost to build a flat?Now,i know that the cost of building a flat is higher compare to that of 60's n 70's.But then again,the flats that the government build are higher,so there are more units to sell to individual n the profit is higher also,for HDB of coz.
So,u must let HDB declares their cost of construction a flat,before i can know how much they are suppose to sell the unit to Singaporean as to consider reasonable.
Secondly,after cutting off the construction cost of flats,what is HDB policy when they decide how much it is per unit to sell to Singaporean.Their policy is it to sell the units for a reasonable price,which will earn less profits after cutting cost,but will let most Singaporean be able afford to buy HDB flat.
Or,to sell the flats to Singaporeans at a ridiculous price,so as to turn it into one of the ways to exploit more money from Singaporeans to provide funds and to sustain PAP minister's highest pay in the world,especially LKY,LHL n GCT pay?
So,which of those 2 is their policy right now?
I only ask you a simple question. How much do you think a HDB flat, say 4 room flat SHOULD cost to you, and not how much does a HDB flat cost. Yet you asked me in return with something else.
As a fellow citizen, I too am concerned about such prices, because if it becomes too high, families cannot get started, overcrowding will occur or our young indebted to the hilt.
One way to ensure that this does not happen is to ensure:-
a. The maximum ceiling for citizens purchasing public housing be capped below $8,000 monthly salary to ensure the well off do not expliot public housing whereby they can afford private property. HDB is and must be keep affordable for the less afluent in our society.b. Loans must be extended to the new couples formed to start families, and its repayments must not be such that it takes up more than their combine salary, leaving nothing to live on,let alone have savings.
c. For those who have lower income, must have access to cheaper varieties such as 4 room units or if necessary, return to 3 room units.
d. And for those who are really down and out, cannot afford even the cheapest flat type, they must at least have access to cheap rental small unit flats.
This is and had always been HDB's as well as our society's policy for years and more years to come. No one is to be left homeless in our egalitarian society.
So far, none had ever been marginalised. I too want a big and cheap flat, with more money balanced to my account for my own spending, but that would be at the expense of my other less afluent citizens as well as future generations.
Next, if govt should sell flats at cheaper prices way below market values, I am sure you will see what will happen to the older flats owners and banks. Disaster awaits.
And dont expect those new owners who got it cheap from the govt will sell cheap after 5 years. They will demand high prices too, or market prices. Someone will have to pay, and it will be our next generation greatly burdened.
They only pay back what they owed to CPF, which in the end is their money. But the profits from the sale lines the owners wallets, not to society.
There is only so much space our country can build flats, and the demand is high daily. The solution now is to spend on researching advance technology to build even higher but safe storeyed flat units to maximise space.
Whatever 'profits' there are goes back to our treasury, and not to HDB as it is not a private agency but a stat board to serve the PEOPLE. Those money belongs to our next generations to assist them in owning homes - either for research, better service, building more flats or subsidies, and serves as a common pool for social spending.
Whomever that you had heard profits from sale of HDB flats lining the wallets of ministers, please ask him/her to show evidence, or you are being made a fool of and you dont even realize it.
I am not from HDB. They would be the better ones to explain to you. I can only offer you a brief insight to its policies, which is in line with what our society fairly needs in the interest of all, of which you and I are its equal members by birthright.
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Originally posted by xtreyier:
I only ask you a simple question. How much do you think a HDB flat, say 4 room flat SHOULD cost to you, and not how much does a HDB flat cost. Yet you asked me in return with something else.
As a fellow citizen, I too am concerned about such prices, because if it becomes too high, families cannot get started, overcrowding will occur or our young indebted to the hilt.
One way to ensure that this does not happen is to ensure:-
a. The maximum ceiling for citizens purchasing public housing be capped below $8,000 monthly salary to ensure the well off do not expliot public housing whereby they can afford private property. HDB is and must be keep affordable for the less afluent in our society.b. Loans must be extended to the new couples formed to start families, and its repayments must not be such that it takes up more than their combine salary, leaving nothing to live on,let alone have savings.
c. For those who have lower income, must have access to cheaper varieties such as 4 room units or if necessary, return to 3 room units.
d. And for those who are really down and out, cannot afford even the cheapest flat type, they must at least have access to cheap rental small unit flats.
This is and had always been HDB's as well as our society's policy for years and more years to come. No one is to be left homeless in our egalitarian society.
So far, none had ever been marginalised. I too want a big and cheap flat, with more money balanced to my account for my own spending, but that would be at the expense of my other less afluent citizens as well as future generations.
Next, if govt should sell flats at cheaper prices way below market values, I am sure you will see what will happen to the older flats owners and banks. Disaster awaits.
And dont expect those new owners who got it cheap from the govt will sell cheap after 5 years. They will demand high prices too, or market prices. Someone will have to pay, and it will be our next generation greatly burdened.
They only pay back what they owed to CPF, which in the end is their money. But the profits from the sale lines the owners wallets, not to society.
There is only so much space our country can build flats, and the demand is high daily. The solution now is to spend on researching advance technology to build even higher but safe storeyed flat units to maximise space.
Whatever 'profits' there are goes back to our treasury, and not to HDB as it is not a private agency but a stat board to serve the PEOPLE. Those money belongs to our next generations to assist them in owning homes - either for research, better service, building more flats or subsidies, and serves as a common pool for social spending.
Whomever that you had heard profits from sale of HDB flats lining the wallets of ministers, please ask him/her to show evidence, or you are being made a fool of and you dont even realize it.
I am not from HDB. They would be the better ones to explain to you. I can only offer you a brief insight to its policies, which is in line with what our society fairly needs in the interest of all, of which you and I are its equal members by birthright.
Can one who is not from the HDB give any accurate insight to its policies that will give any answers to the primary concern of this thread about how much a HDB flat should cost to Singaporeans ?
Or has the bankrupt mind of a X-rat simply plagiarized PAPa's strategy of answering simple question by leading us through a tour of all its policies to simply obfuscate the issue and leave everyone none the wiser ?
Has the answer been given by the X-rated effort made in a plagiarized "Wall of Text" format that is void of any relevant substance to the question asked ?
A more honest effort would have been to refer to the previous thread in this Speaker's Corner - titled : Cost of building HDB flats – finally an answer ? (*1)
In this thread, it had referred to a surprise ChannelnewsAsia Report (*2) that would have provide some relevant information to this thread:
SGX mainboard-listed BBR secures S$104.2m HDB contract
By Jonathan Peeris, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 17 August 2009 1511 hrs
Singapore Exchange’s mainboard-listed BBR Holdings has secured a S$104.2-million contract from the Housing & Development Board (HDB) to build seven blocks of flats in Yishun Neighbourhood 4.
The work comprises 864 homes, a Child Care Centre, a roof garden, communal amenities and site works, as well as contingency works.
Since there will be 864 HDB flats, the average cost per flat, inclusive of communal amenities, site works and contingency works, is about $120,602 ($104.2 million divided by 864 flats).
With the latest HDB new 4-room flats at Punggol (Punggol Residences BTO) selling at an average price of $293,000 (price range of $264,000 to $322,000 divided by 2), does it mean that the HDB stands to make a profit of about $172,398 per flat, or a profit margin of about 143 per cent ?
The project will be carried out in 10 phases and is expected to be completed by 2012.
One should consider that the government had utilised CPF funds borrowed at low interest rate of 2.5 per cent per annum to build these HDB flats.
Selling these flats to Singaporeans at such high profit margins, will mean that the money is borrowed at no cost.
Selling these flats at such high profit margins to the HDB can only result in the entire CPF savings being used to purchase the HDB unit, with nothing left for retirement.
Is Singapore "asset rich and cash poor" - when the "asset" is an artificially high priced HDB unit that transfer the CPF savings to the Government Treasury ?
This is day-light robbery, which CASE cannot even dare to represent the interests of all Singaporeans.
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Anyone wondered why this turd tobe dares not publically say that a flat SHOULD cost $120,802, but needs a qoute from another source to say it?
Why dare not be responsible for such statement? Having doubts even herself? Or need a fool to say it on her behalf?
Another gibberish, innuendoes, and yet NO EVIDENCE of criminal offence.
But then, its her and her kind style, take no responsibilites. Let others be expendable and take the rap. Piece of turd.
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Originally posted by xtreyier:
Anyone wondered why this turd tobe dares not publically say that a flat SHOULD cost $120,802, but needs a qoute from another source to say it?
Why dare not be responsible for such statement? Having doubts even herself? Or need a fool to say it on her behalf?
Another gibberish, innuendoes, and yet NO EVIDENCE of criminal offence.
But then, its her and her kind style, take no responsibilites. Let others be expendable and take the rap. Piece of turd.
Unlike the X-rat who is only prepared to be vain by plagiarizing the works and words from others to be its own - does the X-rat know how to be honest by giving recognition to the effort of others who have finally succeeded to throw some light into the REAL COSTS of what the PAPa has never dared to give ?
How can anyone teach a kiddie who pretend to be an adult the "basic social skills" that it is only polite NOT to plagiarize the works and words from others, and that when one quote any piece of work, one should always give the credit to that person.
Obviously, the stoooopidity can come only from a hopelessly bankrupt mind that have no understanding of simple courtesy.
Can we leave it to the ingenuity of a X-rat to even plagiarize the creative insult from a hog that is familiar with its own turd ?
Sadly, the X-rat do not even possess the skill to come up with its own X-rated insult.
Did the tsunami wash through the X-spot where you stand, and washed everything clean out of you ?
Did the new brain reject you after the old teeny one got washed out ?
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More shit. Expected. comming from you, Turd, still no criminal evidence or the claim for what the price of a hdb unit should be.
Go on. You only dig your own grave deeper. Others are not fools to see it. I would gladly assist you to dig it deeper, but so far, you doing well on your own, to my expectations.
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Originally posted by xtreyier:
More shit. Expected. comming from you, Turd, still no criminal evidence or the claim for what the price of a hdb unit should be.
Go on. You only dig your own grave deeper. Others are not fools to see it. I would gladly assist you to dig it deeper, but so far, you doing well on your own, to my expectations.
He's just quoting as a secondary data. Better than you who only talk till like some philosopher, but in the end is all rubbish.
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Originally posted by TYING:
He's just quoting as a secondary data. Better than you who only talk till like some philosopher, but in the end is all rubbish.
And you are talking sense with your one liner? It solves the problem?I only address the issue, why the fear to stand up and say the cost? Why need a secondary source? Where is one's conviction? Or does she wants another fool to do it on her behalf and take the rap?
If you accept her words, or her presumed assumptions from a 'secondary source' as right, then it is your right as well. A right to be a fool and taken for a ride. Its your life, not mine.
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Originally posted by xtreyier:
More shit. Expected. comming from you, Turd, still no criminal evidence or the claim for what the price of a hdb unit should be.
Go on. You only dig your own grave deeper. Others are not fools to see it. I would gladly assist you to dig it deeper, but so far, you doing well on your own, to my expectations.
Obviously, the bankrupt mind of a X-rat cannot differentiate honesty with its own dubious values of insecurity.Can you not read what has been printed in my quoted text - which I stand-by what is printed in my response that you refused to deal with, and prefer to take a defeatist stance to comment at a tangent ?
Your grave has been neatly dug by me, and it is a matter of time when you will be pushed into the grave that I have prepared for you.
You have been challenged to dig my grave - are you up to it ?
Have you been avoiding to take the challenge even as you walked away with your gloves after throwing a challenge ?
The vanity of a X-rated kid is no better then a X-rat hoping to achieve great things with sanctimonius views that are no better then a piece of holey cheese fit for a rat.
Originally posted by xtreyier:
And you are talking sense with your one liner? It solves the problem?I only address the issue, why the fear to stand up and say the cost? Why need a secondary source? Where is one's conviction? Or does she wants another fool to do it on her behalf and take the rap?
If you accept her words, or her presumed assumptions from a 'secondary source' as right, then it is your right as well. A right to be a fool and taken for a ride. Its your life, not mine.
The fool is with a X-rated intelligence that is only becoming of a kiddie-rat.
The cost has been quoted and stated in my response, and my comments had followed in the closing paragraphs.
Can we expect a bankrupt mind to comment on the real issues instead of avoiding it by huffing and puffing on the peripherals ?
It is only obvious that the sanctimonius position taken by the X-rat had been badly punctured, and its hollow ideas were exposed as nothing more then hot air - all leading to this divergence and side-tracking.
What issues can a bankrupt mind of a X-rated kiddie rat possibly have with the actual costs being offered in my earlier response that is now for study ?
In the days of the Emperor, all of your forefathers will be blamed for the singular mistake of having you in their family tree.
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More trash from you. Anything on topic? Nothing. Thats all you are good at, Turd - nothing. Meaningless junk.
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Do you suppose that Atobe count the number of cement used, the work labour that have been task to build the site and all, for him to calculate the cost of building a flat by himself? Only then, his words can be taken for real uh.
And also, if you do really think what I have said above is true, then I suppose you don't study your textbooks and all that you have said is what you have personally taught yourself. Great job! =)
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Originally posted by xtreyier:
More shit. Expected. comming from you, Turd, still no criminal evidence or the claim for what the price of a hdb unit should be.
Go on. You only dig your own grave deeper. Others are not fools to see it. I would gladly assist you to dig it deeper, but so far, you doing well on your own, to my expectations.
Oei, ATurddy is a copyright from me. :PBut Atobe just keep plunking a wall of text from dunnoe where and expects everyone to respect his vulgar name-calling.
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Oei, ATurddy is a copyright from me. :PBut Atobe just keep plunking a wall of text from dunnoe where and expects everyone to respect his vulgar name-calling.
Haha..ok, you can retain full rights to call her ATurddy. I would prefer my variation of her as Turd, a more clear and concise description of her. I respectfully seek your permission to use it.
Her method is to slime others simply because she has nothing to offer. Old dogs are incapable of learning new tricks. She and her bunch of followers are definitive proofs of this saying. And she dares loudly mouth out 'changes' for our society. I dare not even begin to think of such 'changes' comming from her and her beloved outlaw master Dr.Chee. Regression comes to mind though.
She has a lot to learn. You had attempted to teach her, a waste of your efforts really for you only gained further slime, but as usual, deluded as she always is, she continues, and I would gladly assist her to dig her own grave deeper, and any of her misguided followers who wishes to be like her
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Well,looking at the HDB flats price now,i would say a 4 room flat should sell around $250000-$260000.But currently,the price of such units,especially in central area where transportations are more convenient like Toa Payoh,AMK,Bishan etc,cost around $330000.
I think its quite high,consider our economy recovery are slow,n our paid raise also minimal,unless u work in a Government company with prominent post.
Also,xtreyier,if u are so concern about Atobe quoting from other source construction cost of flats.Then u might as well send in a letter to HDB n request them to declare the construction cost of the flats,problem solved!!!
Maybe from ur enthusiastic n relentless defend of HDB here,they might be touched by u and declare the whole construction price data transparently to the public.
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Do you all have short memories? HDB flats are not subsidized!
HDB flats are made 'affordable' to the public, with profits in mind!
Source : Business Times, 12 Dec 2007
LETTER TO THE EDITOR
New HDB flat prices based on market prices of resale flats
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I REFER to the letter, Since when did resale prices decide cost of HDB flat? (BT, Nov 30) by Lu Keehong.
The prices of new HDB flats are based on the market prices of resale HDB flats, and not their costs of construction. In order to provide affordable housing to Singaporean families, new HDB flats are priced below their equivalent market values. In this way, new flat buyers can enjoy a substantial subsidy. This point has been explained in Parliament and reported in the media on many occasions.
As resale prices move up, so do new flat prices. Similarly, when resale prices move down, as happened during the property market downturn in recent years, the prices of new HDB flats were also reduced significantly.
By selling new flats with a market subsidy, HDB has been unable to recover the development cost of new flats. HDB has incurred an average deficit of $457 million a year in its home ownership programme in the last five years. These figures are reported in HDB's audited financial statements, which are available to the public.
HDB periodically reviews its building programme, and makes adjustments to respond to and anticipate changing market conditions. With the increased demand for new HDB flats, HDB is gradually stepping up its building programme to ensure a steady flow of public housing supply to meet the needs of present and future generations of Singaporean families.
Kee Lay Cheng (Ms)
Deputy Director (Marketing & Projects)
For Director (Estate Administration & Property)
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Oei, ATurddy is a copyright from me. :PBut Atobe just keep plunking a wall of text from dunnoe where and expects everyone to respect his vulgar name-calling.
Yes, we can respect the passion of a 'hog' to the copyrights of the "turd" that it has so much familiarity with.Is there anything vulgar when the "zwei-siao-hog" has been "zwei-siao" enough to indulge with "turd" as an admitted fact ?
Can anyone expect a pretentious "Bavarian Hog" to read anything besides a "Wall of Text" built from its familiar favorite "zwei-siao" material that it wallows in ?
Perhaps Yaweh's place for you have been pre-determined in the order of life, is it any wonder that a "turd" will feature in the mind of a "zwei-siao-hog" ?
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Originally posted by xtreyier:
Haha..ok, you can retain full rights to call her ATurddy. I would prefer my variation of her as Turd, a more clear and concise description of her. I respectfully seek your permission to use it.
Variation, or simply copying ?
Does this not confirm what has been said of the plagiarizing ability of a X-rat, to copy the works and words from others and pass it off as its own X-rated creation ?
It is not a surprise that the X-rat in a X-rated kiddie will finally have to arrange with the "zwei-siao-hog" to confirm authencity and seek permission for the favorite material that only a "hog" will appreciate.
Her method is to slime others simply because she has nothing to offer. Old dogs are incapable of learning new tricks. She and her bunch of followers are definitive proofs of this saying. And she dares loudly mouth out 'changes' for our society. I dare not even begin to think of such 'changes' comming from her and her beloved outlaw master Dr.Chee. Regression comes to mind though.
Was there nothing to offer to a X-rat, or did the X-rat not walked away from several threads even as it make hollow threats and challenges with kiddie's gloves ?
For one who has been trashed into silence, and slinked away with its butt repeatedly bruised, do you now need to depend on the 'Art of Deceit' to console yourself from the painful lessons dished out to you ?
The X-rated kiddie - with the brain of a X-rat - should learn from the tiny intelligence of a "zwei-siao-hog" that the Chimpanzee is more intelligent than the "hog" and also the "albino Gorillias".
Can we expect anything intelligent from a X-rat that has poor reading abilities, refusal to read books, ignorant with history, hopeless in critical thinking, too lazy to be active in research, and with immature emotions that easily succumbed to repeated lies that its X-rat mind will develop into "half-truths" - then interpreted into its X-rated Truth ?
Yes, it is amazing that the X-rated kiddie will admit that "regression come to mind though" - as already seen in its position, and beaten into its thought process across all the threads.
She has a lot to learn. You had attempted to teach her, a waste of your efforts really for you only gained further slime, but as usual, deluded as she always is, she continues, and I would gladly assist her to dig her own grave deeper, and any of her misguided followers who wishes to be like her
.Does the X-rat need to dig a deeper grave now ?
What happened to the earlier graves that the X-rat had boasted to help dig ?
It is not a surprise that the boastful claims have to be accompanied by an insecure grin that showed the statement to be nothing more then a hollow boast - as the truth across all the threads have shown the inability of a X-rat to even hold or defend its tiny position where the X mark the spot.
It is obvious that you cannot get the big picture of yourself, when you have such a tiny screen to work in.
Is there any need to make a monkey out of you, when your X-rated performance has made you such an accomplisment in this field ?
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Originally posted by Howlheje:
Well,looking at the HDB flats price now,i would say a 4 room flat should sell around $250000-$260000.But currently,the price of such units,especially in central area where transportations are more convenient like Toa Payoh,AMK,Bishan etc,cost around $330000.
I think its quite high,consider our economy recovery are slow,n our paid raise also minimal,unless u work in a Government company with prominent post.
Also,xtreyier,if u are so concern about Atobe quoting from other source construction cost of flats.Then u might as well send in a letter to HDB n request them to declare the construction cost of the flats,problem solved!!!
Maybe from ur enthusiastic n relentless defend of HDB here,they might be touched by u and declare the whole construction price data transparently to the public.
You claim such prices SHOULD be thus, and yet you consider them high. Do you have any other alternatives on how to lower them?
It would be better you consider such then to follow the Turd's distractive techniques which offers no solutions but pure criticisms based on half truths and lies, ruthless attacks on those who disagree with her, acts of which portends of similar styles to come if she and her kind, as well as her beloved outlaw leader Dr.Chee sits on the throne.
She had already been expoused and disregarded for her worth which only fits the trash bin, but you have yet to prove your worth with your forthcomming alternatives to pricing.
Unless of course, you are another entusiastic and relentless defender of valueless criticisms based on lies and half truths, to be equally dismissed as hot air.
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Originally posted by xtreyier:
You claim such prices SHOULD be thus, and yet you consider them high. Do you have any other alternatives on how to lower them?
It would be better you consider such then to follow the Turd's distractive techniques which offers no solutions but pure criticisms based on half truths and lies, ruthless attacks on those who disagree with her, acts of which portends of similar styles to come if she and her kind, as well as her beloved outlaw leader Dr.Chee sits on the throne.
She had already been expoused and disregarded for her worth which only fits the trash bin, but you have yet to prove your worth with your forthcomming alternatives to pricing.
Unless of course, you are another entusiastic and relentless defender of valueless criticisms based on lies and half truths, to be equally dismissed as hot air.
I notice that when you are losing an argment against other forumers, you start resorting to bringing up CSJ's name out of nowhere as a "I win because you all are CSJ supporters" type rationale.
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Originally posted by charlize:
I notice that when you are losing an argment against other forumers, you start resorting to bringing up CSJ's name out of nowhere as a "I win because you all are CSJ supporters" type rationale.
Desperate times calls for desperate measures.
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Originally posted by charlize:
I notice that when you are losing an argment against other forumers, you start resorting to bringing up CSJ's name out of nowhere as a "I win because you all are CSJ supporters" type rationale.
By your logic, what had I won and what had I lost, but only the display of the reality placed before others on arguments, perceptions and behavioural patterns put forth by your named proponents on this site in response to their loud minority vocal condemnations?Or are you now hereby denying yourself all links to your said proponent?
Furthermore, by your logic, i would too like to ask why would people like you claim I am from the ruling party, when I am not, and of never their calibre, capabilities and doings, except to represent myself and my own views only?
Do you fear my questions to reply, or shall I give you the freedom to ignore me, a nobody and not important in any way, who is fully embarrassed by the attention i am getting, though not for its purposes, as is your fullest right?
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Somebody should post this topic in sgForums.
A qualified doctor who uses "an HDB flat", not once but twice, there is something really wrong with Singapore's education system. Boomz!!!
http://www.straitstimes.com/ST+Forum/Story/STIStory_440390.html
I don't know how to justify a system of housing where the cheapest 2 bedroom cost above $200,000 and your average wage earners get $18,000 a year. It's a system to lock you into long term debt.
There are lots of replies generated from this article, I guess nowadays trolling doesn't just occur on the internet.
http://comment.straitstimes.com/showthread.php?t=25564
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Originally posted by xtreyier:
By your logic, what had I won and what had I lost, but only the display of the reality placed before others on arguments, perceptions and behavioural patterns put forth by your named proponents on this site in response to their loud minority vocal condemnations?Or are you now hereby denying yourself all links to your said proponent?
Furthermore, by your logic, i would too like to ask why would people like you claim I am from the ruling party, when I am not, and of never their calibre, capabilities and doings, except to represent myself and my own views only?
Do you fear my questions to reply, or shall I give you the freedom to ignore me, a nobody and not important in any way, who is fully embarrassed by the attention i am getting, though not for its purposes, as is your fullest right?
There you go again.
Going off tangent with your "I am a nobody" crap again.